[Jemal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I would have thought he was sexist in 2003 too

Someone who idolises his Mother like he does, gives you that impression over banter? Fair enough I guess

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jemal

He isn’t lol. This is part of the reason why Big Brother in 2023 is probably a bad idea

Did he make a sexual comment?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jemal

He isn’t lol. This is part of the reason why Big Brother in 2023 is probably a bad idea

…I think that BB in 2023 is an excellent idea, goddamnit……but yeah, I do think it’s always been a great platform to open up any talking points…with social media influences etc, though…it can be more of a ‘labelling’ society, rather than talking and discussing…so I completely understand what you mean….labelling has been …(imo….)…such a regression because it immediately closes down….

…I like Zak and I’m going to hold back on any casual sexism he may have displayed because I feel that it was more a thoughtless remark in the moment…I saw it all, the Zak, what on Earth were you thinking-gate, mentioned on something as…oh his true colours etc…this is the real Zak…!!!…and that always makes me cringe in that there are always lots of aspects and layers to people..that one thing doesn’t change any of his positives, you know…it’s that we’re seeing different aspects to people….

…what I found more interesting was that Zak feels that his relationship with Trish is quite brother/sister and winding up but affectionate, type thing…but I’m not entirely sure that that’s a mutual thing because Trish did throw that label, did she…?….quite quickly so the understanding/friendship between them doesn’t seem to concur….and those boundaries do have to be established is another thing …if for instance, of something being perceived and received in the same vibe as it was said…

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…

I think that BB in 2023 is an excellent idea, goddamnit……but yeah, I do think it’s always been a great platform to open up any talking points…with social media influences etc, though…it can be more of a ‘labelling’ society, rather than talking and discussing…so I completely understand what you mean….labelling has been …(imo….)…such a regression because it immediately closes down….

……

It’s kinda like a LGBT+ Big Brother really …

Even the supposedly macho one , Paul said he used to wear makeup and dress in girls clothes when he was young ..


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[Redrose]

He's making me feel uncomfortable. Dish but can't take it.

[thesheriff443]

Was this Zak’s attempt to get airtime after seeing others play up to the camera
If it was it’s backfired terribly

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Was this Zak’s attempt to get airtime after seeing others play up to the camera
If it was it’s backfired terribly

Either way ... the whole thing was unnecessary .

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Either way ... the whole thing was unnecessary .

Definitely but I don’t like Zak , I think he is a more animated version of paul

[andybigbro]

I thought it was uncomfortable when he was telling Noky to sit and holding her down.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

I thought it was uncomfortable when he was telling Noky to sit and holding her down.

Was that after she was attempting to hit him in the bollox and before she threw some liquid on him?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Alf

Was that after she was attempting to hit him in the bollox and before she threw some liquid on him?

Yeah she gave as good as she got .

[Crimson Dynamo]

no

[andybigbro]

I think the idolised his mother argument is not very strong. He can love his mum and still be sexist towards other women.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

I think the idolised his mother argument is not very strong. He can love his mum and still be sexist towards other women.

I honestly think he's just a massive wind up ,and he jokes around too much. But tonight wasn't a good episode for him.

i think he might be a bit big headed with it .

Paul is the pig , he's just hiding it more... as he watches Zak crash and burn.

Tom is another weird one where he's boring AF, but he seems to enjoy the drama, he was trying to stir things with Jordan.

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

I think the idolised his mother argument is not very strong. He can love his mum and still be sexist towards other women.

I mean I agree with that but the sample size or “evidence” for people making the decision that he’s sexist is pretty hilarious

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

I think the idolised his mother argument is not very strong. He can love his mum and still be sexist towards other women.

Exactly.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

I think the idolised his mother argument is not very strong. He can love his mum and still be sexist towards other women.

It means he'll likely have a deep respect for women. After his mother being his hero!

[andybigbro]

I’m not saying Zak is sexist, his behaviour was odd tonight. But I do think the argument that he loves his mum so can’t be sexist is flawed.

[BBDodge]

He has a big ego.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by BBDodge

He has a big ego.

I still prefer him over Paul the dustbin.

[rusticgal]

He can be quite patronising….I think we need to keep an eye on him. I have liked him so far but I think the more comfortable he gets his true colours might emerge.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I still prefer him over Paul the dustbin.

Paul is a prat.

[Northern Monkey]

Well, i think everyone can be a little sexist at times, men and women. However, i don’t think he’s sexist in a malicious way, it all depends on context and intent. For me, he’s just a bellend who gets over excited.

[Babayaro.]

From that comment alone it’s hard to say he is point blank sexist, but was it a sexist joke? Yes. I do think it was pretty obvious he was saying it in jest and to be a wind up, but cmon man, read the room. He’s definitely shot himself in the foot as I can now see him being nominated for eviction this week.

[Babayaro.]

Also I felt like Trish was a liiiitle too keen to make into a huge thing lol