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Old 23-10-2023, 10:37 AM #1
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I think a lot of what he does is strategic, which I actually don't mind and wouldn't turn me off him however I do agree with something Smudgie said about not hurting other peoples genuine feelings to play the game so yeah I still like Jordan a lot but I'm keeping my eye on him
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I think a lot of what he does is strategic, which I actually don't mind and wouldn't turn me off him however I do agree with something Smudgie said about not hurting other peoples genuine feelings to play the game so yeah I still like Jordan a lot but I'm keeping my eye on him

I really don’t think he’d ever hurt Henry’s feelings… intentionally
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Little cracks are already showing in their friendship, Jordan is doing little things that will drive them both mad ....he likes them both always being there to play off against eachother.

He told Henry he'll join him in the garden,then he was randomly messing about with Matty giving him a makeover.

He keeps going from one to another,and we always see the facial expression of Matty & Henry get jealous....when Jordan spends more time with the other one.

When all this hits the fan ,Henry will bawl his eyes out & Matty will get more passive aggressive. Then Jordan will be acting all " what did I do " .
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Little cracks are already showing in their friendship, Jordan is doing little things that will drive them both mad ....he likes them both always being there to play off against eachother.

He told Henry he'll join him in the garden,then he was randomly messing about with Matty giving him a makeover.

He keeps going from one to another,and we always see the facial expression of Matty & Henry get jealous....when Jordan spends more time with the other one.

When all this hits the fan ,Henry will bawl his eyes out & Matty will get more passive aggressive. Then Jordan will be acting all " what did I do " .

Yeah but he went to the garden a few minutes later and turned up at the Jacuzzi with alcoholic for Henry , he only stayed a few moments with Matty .


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Body language and facial expressions speak a thousand words, Jordan makes one of them wait for him as he overstays his welcome with the other's company. If Chanelle was in his group .... he'd probably be flirting with her aswell,even though we know that was one sided initially,but Jordan loves the attention.

He's the type of person who would get told someone fancies him ,then he'd play up to it even more...to lead them on.
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A few minutes later on edit time.

He went out to the garden after henry had spent time alone in the jacuzzi, and after yinrun spent time changing to go in as well..infact he only moved out to henry when matty decided to go get changed to go on to the jacuzzi as well..this could have been an hour later for all we know.
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Me neither,i think he sees Henry as a friend and always will do where as with Matty they probably like each other in another way but are being cautious,maybe they are not reading each other signs too well,but imo Jordan would not hurt any of them intentionally.
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Me neither,i think he sees Henry as a friend and always will do where as with Matty they probably like each other in another way but are being cautious,maybe they are not reading each other signs too well,but imo Jordan would not hurt any of them intentionally.
…I guess that it’s always that thing as well of trying to find a balance of not encouraging Henry in any romantic way, but not wanting to cause any feeling of rejection for Henry either…and then the public is watching to ‘judge’ every step of that awkward balance…
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Me neither,i think he sees Henry as a friend and always will do where as with Matty they probably like each other in another way but are being cautious,maybe they are not reading each other signs too well,but imo Jordan would not hurt any of them intentionally.
Matty literally said to Jordan " Let me know when you want a serious talk" , or something....and Jordan dismissed it as usual. It's all a game to Jordan.

It's interesting as before this triangle started, Jordan gave me BB11 Ben vibes...I initially thought Jordan had more intelligence,but I'm seeing another foot in mouth situation,where Jordan gets all " wait what happened" with his oblivious reaction .

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Matty literally said to Jordan " Let me know when you want a serious talk" , or something....and Jordan dismissed it as usual. It's all a game to Jordan.

It's interesting as before this triangle started, Jordan gave me BB11 Ben vibes...I initially thought Jordan had more intelligence,but I'm seeing another foot in mouth situation,where Jordan gets all " wait what happened" with his oblivious reaction .

See I saw Jordan’s reluctance to have a serious discussion with Matty to suggest that he doesn’t want to enter into a full blown relationship with him ..


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Me neither,i think he sees Henry as a friend and always will do where as with Matty they probably like each other in another way but are being cautious,maybe they are not reading each other signs too well,but imo Jordan would not hurt any of them intentionally.
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Me neither,i think he sees Henry as a friend and always will do where as with Matty they probably like each other in another way but are being cautious,maybe they are not reading each other signs too well,but imo Jordan would not hurt any of them intentionally.
Agree with this 100%. He isn't nasty or malicious. And he would definitely never hurt anyone on purpose.
I quite like Henry and Jordan analysing everything together
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I think a lot of what he does is strategic, which I actually don't mind and wouldn't turn me off him however I do agree with something Smudgie said about not hurting other peoples genuine feelings to play the game so yeah I still like Jordan a lot but I'm keeping my eye on him
…yeah, I think he has a very genuine affection for Yinrun for instant…but then something about Noki, seems to be running quite deep with him in terms of he perceived her and seems to have very little tolerance of her…and that’s really not a good luck for him…

…I do think he does give thought to his time and experience in terms of winning goals etc…but then, I think all or most very much give those same type of thoughts and that’s a layer for all of them…as well as the whole experience of it as well, there must be those thoughts of strategies and tactics and winning thoughts as well…hmmmm, that wouldn’t necessarily indicate a pre thought out game plan either though….but I think would factor in to having that time to think and overthink and competitiveness as well…there was some reference to the floaters, so there is obviously some thought of ‘self preservation’ as well …both individual ones of staying in the house and with regards to the group forming and hoping to gain those floater votes…as with you, I like him and that hasn’t changed…I don’t mind any game play at all so long as it isn’t hurting other housemates intentionally and mean spirited etc… he seems quite a considered person, rather than a more spontaneous one…but his more open dislike of Noki atm is quite niggling to me so…we’ll see…
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…yeah, I think he has a very genuine affection for Yinrun for instant…but then something about Noki, seems to be running quite deep with him in terms of he perceived her and seems to have very little tolerance of her…and that’s really not a good luck for him…

…I do think he does give thought to his time and experience in terms of winning goals etc…but then, I think all or most very much give those same type of thoughts and that’s a layer for all of them…as well as the whole experience of it as well, there must be those thoughts of strategies and tactics and winning thoughts as well…hmmmm, that wouldn’t necessarily indicate a pre thought out game plan either though….but I think would factor in to having that time to think and overthink and competitiveness as well…there was some reference to the floaters, so there is obviously some thought of ‘self preservation’ as well …both individual ones of staying in the house and with regards to the group forming and hoping to gain those floater votes…as with you, I like him and that hasn’t changed…I don’t mind any game play at all so long as it isn’t hurting other housemates intentionally and mean spirited etc… he seems quite a considered person, rather than a more spontaneous one…but his more open dislike of Noki atm is quite niggling to me so…we’ll see…

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I think a lot of what he does is strategic, which I actually don't mind and wouldn't turn me off him however I do agree with something Smudgie said about not hurting other peoples genuine feelings to play the game so yeah I still like Jordan a lot but I'm keeping my eye on him
Exactly. It's a game. I don't mind anyone who plays it.
Having said that I think Jordan is the kind of person to over analyze everything.
Another thing I I have in common with him.
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Jordan was thinking tactical and was trying to replace Henry ....as he probably thought Henry would get evicted. But Jordan also enjoys stringing them both along for his pleasure. He likes them both chasing him,he loves the attention. I'm not a psychologist,but the way the 3 of them were sat on the coach at one point was so telling and awkward.
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Jordan was thinking tactical and was trying to replace Henry ....as he probably thought Henry would get evicted. But Jordan also enjoys stringing them both along for his pleasure. He likes them both chasing him,he loves the attention. I'm not a psychologist,but the way the 3 of them were sat on the coach at one point was so telling and awkward.

That’s a fair take on things although I don’t feel that he EXPECTED Henry to go .. maybe he was guilty of just feared the worst ?

I actually feel that the Matty situation may have happened even if Henry hadn’t been up for eviction as I feel Matty made a conscious ( and determined )effort to infiltrate the ‘cool’ gangs ranks


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Jordan was thinking tactical and was trying to replace Henry ....as he probably thought Henry would get evicted. But Jordan also enjoys stringing them both along for his pleasure. He likes them both chasing him,he loves the attention. I'm not a psychologist,but the way the 3 of them were sat on the coach at one point was so telling and awkward.


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