[thesheriff443]

For me, I think noky has no real interest in any of them
She is on the show to get noticed for more television work

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

She seems so nice and genuine and beautiful ....is it her beauty that makes people keep her at arms lengths, even Yinrun has had a gossip about her ...

Noky can align herself to either group, and both groups have shown they accept her. It is Noky who chooses to keep others at arm’s length, and to keep fairly superficial relationships with all of them.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Noky can align herself to either group, and both groups have shown they accept her. It is Noky who chooses to keep others at arm’s length, and to keep fairly superficial relationships with all of them.

I agree

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Cherie

She seems so nice and genuine and beautiful ....is it her beauty that makes people keep her at arms lengths, even Yinrun has had a gossip about her ...

In short... Choice.

She chose to play a specific game. To keep everyone at arm's length, not get too close, and try to stay on good terms with both. This led to both sides not trusting her.

I like her a lot but I can't deny she is in there to play to win and that she uses and plays others in the game to that end.

[GoldHeart]

She's had it one of toughest in there , I think because she wasn't in a specific group ....and floated around. In BB people get too paranoid ,and it seems you have to pick a side . And she picked the wrong side with Paul's group. I think even now she's still trying to be everyone's friend. But yeah she is a nice person.

[MTVN]

I think she initially gravitated towards the younger housemates because they're a similar age and she's quite playful and energetic like they are. I'm not sure they fully accepted her though because they felt intimidated by her intelligence. At the same time it's worth remembering that Henry and Jordan were a bit cliquey early on and basically joined at the hip so maybe she didn't feel that comfortable spending a lot of time with them. It even took a while for Matty to really start talking to them. Noky also got on with Trish but it was a bit of a big sister relationship (Trish is a fair few years older after all) so they weren't super close. She obviously always trusted Trish the most though. I also think it's not really in her nature to be factional and get really invested in the 'divide' - I mean of all the housemates in there I think she's the one who has bitched about other people the least. Some people are apparently suspicious of that.

So yeah I think it's a combination of circumstance, maybe spending time with the wrong people early on, and just her personality that's meant she's sadly been pretty isolated in there

[Vanessa]

She's a floater, but that's ok. So is Matty.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think she initially gravitated towards the younger housemates because they're a similar age and she's quite playful and energetic like they are. I'm not sure they fully accepted her though because they felt intimidated by her intelligence. At the same time it's worth remembering that Henry and Jordan were a bit cliquey early on and basically joined at the hip so maybe she didn't feel that comfortable spending a lot of time with them. It even took a while for Matty to really start talking to them. Noky also got on with Trish but it was a bit of a big sister relationship (Trish is a fair few years older after all) so they weren't super close. She obviously always trusted Trish the most though. I also think it's not really in her nature to be factional and get really invested in the 'divide' - I mean of all the housemates in there I think she's the one who has bitched about other people the least. Some people are apparently suspicious of that.

So yeah I think it's a combination of circumstance, maybe spending time with the wrong people early on, and just her personality that's meant she's sadly been pretty isolated in there

This is the closest description to how I view Noky. Her person or personality aren't really my thing, but I admire how she hasn't "picked a side". I find the divided house story line to be quite boring. The fact she is being ostracized for not drawing a line is her one endearing quality for me.
Conversely, Trish slapping down Jenkins attempt at an olive branch shows a significant flaw in her character. It continued the cycle of divide. If her answer was different, these housemates would have had a chance at reconciliation and she might not have been nominated this week.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Mokka

This is the closest description to how I view Noky. Her person or personality aren't really my thing, but I admire how she hasn't "picked a side". I find the divided house story line to be quite boring. The fact she is being ostracized for not drawing a line is her one endearing quality for me.
Conversely, Trish slapping down Jenkins attempt at an olive branch shows a significant flaw in her character. It continued the cycle of divide. If her answer was different, these housemates would have had a chance at reconciliation and she might not have been nominated this week.

that's very true on Trish. She is as responsible as anyone for there being a divide, but the audience seem to like her for that

[Maru]

My guess would be her fragility (not in a negative way)/heart on her sleeve side contradicting her switching to a hard exterior probably didn't mix very well with the HMs in the beginning and it left a lasting impression. If I remember correctly, she was a bit of a mess at points. Her ability to then switch her emotions off and hitch to other people's ride afterwards and play nice with the group probably has not helped either. That has led to accusations of her being super fake.

Individually she is a fantastic person. In a group setting, she is more awkward. She is highly self-aware and it makes it very difficult to keep in with the group if she's bouncing between dissociating her feelings to cope in an intense environment and having to deal with her emotions in response to others and to also keep others in check.

[Beso]

She stuck all her eggs in one basket with Zak. But he left.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

She stuck all her eggs in one basket with Zak. But he left.

Yeah . True enough


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[GoldHeart]

Tonight proved Noky can't win ,Henry & Yinrun just come across as fake to me now .

Jenkin was bringing up the toilet being blocked again, it's not funny. He's the one who poos himself and leaves the toilet in a mess for others to find . Yet he's scape goating Noky ,as he sees her as a easy target.

[fitz2k2]

We seen every angle of each housemate. Noky we still dont know the other noky. Off camera noky because she is giving us pagent noky 24.7.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by fitz2k2

We seen every angle of each housemate. Noky we still dont know the other noky. Off camera noky because she is giving us pagent noky 24.7.

Agree with you here. We know both the good and bad points of the other housemates, but we seem to only know the very surface level of Noky.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Agree with you here. We know both the good and bad points of the other housemates, but we seem to only know the very surface level of Noky.

I blame the edit to some degree. Someone who tries to control their composure so much is probably hard to distill down to compelling content. The small talk mostly won't air which is probably where most of her thoughts are. For BB, character development is what happens when people come together or clash in a big way. She doesn't trust anyone and thus generally runs from confrontation to her own detriment because that is how the public will get to know her. I am beginning to think she shouldn't have been cast.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by fitz2k2

We seen every angle of each housemate. Noky we still dont know the other noky. Off camera noky because she is giving us pagent noky 24.7.

Originally Posted by Garfie

Agree with you here. We know both the good and bad points of the other housemates, but we seem to only know the very surface level of Noky.

See you say this but posters do seem to be able to identify lots of different aspects of Noky's personality. Even people who aren't that keen on her generally agree she's very gracious, intelligent and well spoken. To that I'd add that she's very empathetic, self-aware, trusting, good humoured and energetic. We've seen evidence of all of those traits in the house. And if you wanted to talk about possible bad points she no doubt has those too as the criticisms of her make out. They normally highlight that she can come across as a people pleaser, a bit detached, averse to confrontation and can be emotional.

So imo she's revealed a huge amount of her personality for someone that is only 'surface level'. I think that she's shown a lot of depth and the fact that she's been discussed and analysed so much in the last couple of weeks shows what a great housemate she is

[Ammi]

…I’m just thinking, in terms of a group dynamic situation…is part of why she wouldn’t seem to have ‘a fit’…also because maybe groups are drawn to what someone would bring to a group…as in for the garden group, Noky doesn’t really have a place in and with the meanness they’ve displayed…like Chanelle for instance…she’s not only now displaying that she’s a willing part of negativity but possibly ‘a leader’…so she’s been a natural ‘recruit’…in the other group, she’s been close to Trish as an individual but that’s the thing with that group…there is individual closeness and friendships etc…but they’re not a group in the same way as the garden ones…so she couldn’t find a fit anyway in something that hasn’t really formed in the same way…?…I don’t know, I’m just musing…

[bots]

Yinrun highlighted why she doesn't fit yesterday. First she nominated her, and then when it was announced that she was up for eviction, Yinrun held Noky's hand and comforted her.

What in any of that makes sense?

[Ammi]

..because in having to choose someone to nominate and having reasons for that, wouldn’t and doesn’t mean that there isn’t a feeling a comfort also…it isn’t an all or nothing thing…things don’t always fit exactly into making complete sense in the artificial world of a BB dynamics…i mean, if Noky hasn’t fitted and reasons are being pondered etc…Yinrun’s comfort doesn’t have any baring, surely…interesting as well, as I’ve just thought about it this moment…it’s always been a bit confusing to me why Jordan has consistently nominated Noky when there isn’t any obvious reason to and also he/they’ve been quite friendly also …I don’t know if he’s comforted Noky but he’s nominated her most times, hasn’t he…?..or a lot of times…it’s a layered/complicated world, in the BB house…

[Ammi]

…is this the first time that Yinrun has nominated Noky…?…I would assume that she nominated from the heart but that doesn’t mean it could be an action from the heart also to comfort someone if that’s what’s being felt….

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

.it’s always been a bit confusing to me why Jordan has consistently nominated Noky when there isn’t any obvious reason to and also he/they’ve been quite friendly also …I don’t know if he’s comforted Noky but he’s nominated her most times, hasn’t he…?..or a lot of times…it’s a layered/complicated world, in the BB house…

The truth is housemates are nominating the person they least like, rather than a person they dislike. Jordan has explained previously that he doesn’t feel he is seeing the real Noky beneath the surface, and that he doesn’t fully trust her.

We all perceive people differently, and I think that, as observers, viewers like to see housemates in a very one-dimensional and cartoon-like way, and can, therefore, become very polarised in their views.

A lot of viewers can, or will, therefore, interpret every action of a housemate they like positively, while judging every action of those they dislike negatively. We see this all the time in the comments.

It all becomes a bit extreme, and sometimes we can forget that every housemate in there has layers - they all have good qualities and some less appealing qualities, but that’s the nature of humankind. They are much more complex than the one-dimensional caricatures that are painted of them,

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Garfie

The truth is housemates are nominating the person they least like, rather than a person they dislike. Jordan has explained previously that he doesn’t feel he is seeing the real Noky beneath the surface, and that he doesn’t fully trust her.

We all perceive people differently, and I think that, as observers, viewers like to see housemates in a very one-dimensional and cartoon-like way, and can, therefore, become very polarised in their views.

A lot of viewers can, or will, therefore, interpret every action of a housemate they like positively, while judging every action of those they dislike negatively. We see this all the time in the comments.

It all becomes a bit extreme, and sometimes we can forget that every housemate in there has layers - they all have good qualities and some less appealing qualities, but that’s the nature of humankind. They are much more complex than the one-dimensional caricatures that are painted of them,

…yeah, one of the most common reasons given was…the housemates that I most want to spend my last week with etc…the ones that I connect with most…BB life has much more layers to the housemates than we might see and discuss etc…

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Yinrun highlighted why she doesn't fit yesterday. First she nominated her, and then when it was announced that she was up for eviction, Yinrun held Noky's hand and comforted her.

What in any of that makes sense?

The truth is, if a housemate gets along well with everyone, as the numbers decrease they would have to nominate someone they liked. Consequently, she has chosen the person she least relates to. But that doesn’t mean she doesn’t like or care for Noky, or that she is unable to feel empathy for her.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Garfie

The truth is, if a housemate gets along well with everyone, as the numbers decrease they would have to nominate someone they liked. Consequently, she has chosen the person she least relates to. But that doesn’t mean she doesn’t like or care for Noky, or that she is unable to feel empathy for her.

there are too many left for that to happen yet.

I think it was a tactical vote, which is fine, but it should be seen for what it is. She heard Noky getting huge cheers, so she thought, lets get rid of her before the final