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Old 04-12-2023, 04:27 AM #1
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One rule doesn't, and shouldn't fit all with most sentencing in this country. It was proven these 2 scumbags tortured and killed this little boy, hand them death. It's actually quite straight forward really.

Murder for murder, no. But in some cases i feel such a crime, when proven, should lead to evil monsters like the 2 who killed this boy to be sentenced to death.
How do you pick and choose which murderers deserve the death penalty though?

Don't get me wrong I more than understand the temptation of having one, but we can't let emotion come into it, otherwise we open our justice system up to even more anarchy than it's already in.
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My issue is pretty much always the same: it all hinges on the illusion that we have or can ever have a perfect criminal justice system. We just don't. Innocent people are sometimes convicted, guilty people often walk out of court free.

Until we have an infallible system then the death sentence can't be right. And we never will.
I agree with most of what you're saying.

I do wonder why using the UK as an example, why the UK courts will find someone guilty of Paedophilia, just for them to only get a 2 year sentence (I think the case that I'm thinking of was based on good behaviour) but still I see that kind of sentencing as monstrous, or the fact that Katie Piper's attacker was seen walking around in society (tagged admittedly) but again that guy shouldn't be seeing the light of day for a very long time.

Obviously I have sympathy for the justice system though when a bad person walks free or an innocent person gets wrongly convicted, because unfortunately evidence can sometimes lead you down the wrong path.
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I agree with most of what you're saying.

I do wonder why using the UK as an example, why the UK courts will find someone guilty of Paedophilia, just for them to only get a 2 year sentence (I think the case that I'm thinking of was based on good behaviour) but still I see that kind of sentencing as monstrous, or the fact that Katie Piper's attacker was seen walking around in society (tagged admittedly) but again that guy shouldn't be seeing the light of day for a very long time.

Obviously I have sympathy for the justice system though when a bad person walks free or an innocent person gets wrongly convicted, because unfortunately evidence can sometimes lead you down the wrong path.
Honestly, the UK system is ridiculous, and sometimes I despair of it. I read my local newspaper and am appalled at the number of people who are charged with serious assaults, yet walk away with a suspended sentence. A woman was in court for stabbing someone twice in the head and once in the leg, yet she didn’t serve time! Like why!? I know that no justice system is perfect but this just wouldn’t happen in somewhere like the USA, and it shouldn’t happen here.
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Honestly, the UK system is ridiculous, and sometimes I despair of it. I read my local newspaper and am appalled at the number of people who are charged with serious assaults, yet walk away with a suspended sentence. A woman was in court for stabbing someone twice in the head and once in the leg, yet she didn’t serve time! Like why!? I know that no justice system is perfect but this just wouldn’t happen in somewhere like the USA, and it shouldn’t happen here.
She got no prison sentence?

This country really is ****ed, seriously.

And I agree with you about America, and China they'll lock you up over any crime.
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She got no prison sentence?

This country really is ****ed, seriously.

And I agree with you about America, and China they'll lock you up over any crime.
Yes, no prison time. The amount of people who walk out of our local court, with a suspended sentence is a running joke in the comment section of our newspaper. In reality though, it’s anything but funny, as you know these people are roaming around without any real deterrent to reoffending. It makes you ask exactly how far people can go before they receive an appropriate consequence, and it makes you feel a little less safe in your own environment.

Having said that, I wouldn’t want China’s ‘justice’ system, as that would is just scary.
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I've just read the link in the OP, Swan.

I'm honestly speechless.
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I've just read the link in the OP, Swan.

I'm honestly speechless.
Yeah, and replying to your other post. These cases, this is where death is the only right punishment imo.
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Yeah, and replying to your other post. These cases, this is where death is the only right punishment imo.
I reckon a couple of inmates will deal with them two when the guards "aren't looking" so it stops the justice system having to step in.
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