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Old 01-08-2024, 01:18 PM #1
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The IOC noted that Khelif was a woman according to her passport and that this was not a transgender issue


she is a woman now, so treat her as a woman



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The IOC noted that Khelif was a woman according to her passport and that this was not a transgender issue


she is a woman now, so treat her as a woman



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‘She’s was born a bloke and will hit far harder than any women boxers the other competitors have been training with .. plus his punch resistance will be far greater

Come on guys .. we’ve all let our girlfriends/ wife / sister hit us on our arms to show they cant hurt us .


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‘She’s was born a bloke and will hit far harder than any women boxers the other competitors have been training with .. plus his punch resistance will be far greater

Come on guys .. we’ve all let our girlfriends/ wife / sister hit us on our arms to show they cant hurt us .


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sexist and transphobic much?

Nicky .. you are sooooo close to going back on ignore ..

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Grow up Nicky before you find everyone has you on ignore.
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You think this is right? For a biological man to fight a woman? And you think I'm weird? Weird...
that is in her past now, she is now a woman

okay i do have to admit she has some advantages over the other women but honestly all these athletes want extra challenges in their respective sport events

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sexist and transphobic much?
Nicky if this is a biological man then they shouldn't be competing in women's sports, can't you see the clear disadvantage .
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‘She’s was born a bloke and will hit far harder than any women boxers the other competitors have been training with .. plus his punch resistance will be far greater

Come on guys .. we’ve all let our girlfriends/ wife / sister hit us on our arms to show they cant hurt us .


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Not trans, just a woman with naturally higher testosterone levels
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Not trans, just a woman with naturally higher testosterone levels
Yeah I'm confused by a lot of the comments talking about her being trans or born a man

It looks more like another Caster Semenya situation. Fair enough that she maybe shouldn't be allowed to compete on that basis but it's not a trans issue unless I'm mistaken
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Yeah I'm confused by a lot of the comments talking about her being trans or born a man

It looks more like another Caster Semenya situation. Fair enough that she maybe shouldn't be allowed to compete on that basis but it's not a trans issue unless I'm mistaken
Because transphobes let nothing get in their way of of their bigotry, even facts

Another big win for the ‘we can always tell’ crew
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that is in her past now, she is now a woman

okay i do have to admit she has some advantages over the other women but honestly all these athletes want extra challenges in their respective sport events



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Because transphobes let nothing get in their way of of their bigotry, even facts
On calm down, Liam...
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Not trans, just a woman with naturally higher testosterone levels
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Yeah I'm confused by a lot of the comments talking about her being trans or born a man

It looks more like another Caster Semenya situation. Fair enough that she maybe shouldn't be allowed to compete on that basis but it's not a trans issue unless I'm mistaken
…yeah, this…I wiki’d her and her early/childhood life is that she was born in a rural village to parents that didn’t approve of boxing for girls and prevented her from practising the sport at that time…so she’s female born is what it appears to be…

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Because transphobes let nothing get in their way of of their bigotry, even facts

Another big win for the ‘we can always tell’ crew
The title is saying she was born a man , or is that a mistake?...if so I'll hold my hands up.

I know there's some masculine biological women , there's some who take steroids...but that's a whole other debate.

In boxing each person is separated by weight class, aswell as gender .
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Because transphobes let nothing get in their way of of their bigotry, even facts

Another big win for the ‘we can always tell’ crew
They both have XY chromosomes as evidenced by science at the World Champs, of course you know best about everything apparently
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Not trans, just a woman with naturally higher testosterone levels
Shouldn't there be a separate division for female athletes that are in that category?

For example like how you wouldn't see a Heavyweight take on a Welterweight, without the Welterweight bulking up first, because of how dangerous it would be for the Welterweight otherwise.

These Sports shouldn't be ignoring Science.
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Why was she not allowed to compete in the world championships last year? Must have been a reason... Yet they allow her to compete in the Olympics.

There's a distinct lack of support for the Italian boxer...
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Why was she not allowed to compete in the world championships last year? Must have been a reason... Yet they allow her to compete in the Olympics.

There's a distinct lack of support for the Italian boxer...
two different competitions?


world championships only the best of the best and best ranked boxers of the world compete in that


while in olympics, you have a chance to qualify for that in special OQT's (Olympic Qualification Tournaments) that goes for each nation having their national OQT


seems like she is not a top ranked boxer (yet) so that must've been the reason her not having taken part in those world championships
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two different competitions?


world championships only the best of the best and best ranked boxers of the world compete in that


while in olympics, you have a chance to qualify for that in special OQT's (Olympic Qualification Tournaments) that goes for each nation having their national OQT


seems like she is not a top ranked boxer (yet) so that must've been the reason her not having taken part in those world championships
She was barred from the world championships because she failed gender eligibility tests.
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She was barred from the world championships because she failed gender eligibility tests.
do you believe that?

a russian who claimed that, and those are the last i tend to believe lol


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wouldn't be surprised if this idiot boxing president Umar Kremlev is the one who ''leaks'' this information to the media's

also him still being president there, is a clownery on its own, since russians everywhere got sanctioned in the sports and entertainment industry except in this event
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Born in a small rural village with a very small inverted penis and wrongly sexed as a female at birth (happens in other cases) - he is a man and that is why he constantly gets banned for having normal male levels of testosterone. Had he been born in better medical circumstances that would not have happened.
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Born in a small rural village with a very small inverted penis and wrongly sexed as a female at birth (happens in other cases) - he is a man and that is why he constantly gets banned for having normal male levels of testosterone. Had he been born in better medical circumstances that would not have happened.
So, a man then.
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The UN’s special rapporteur on violence against women and girls (VAWG) has condemned the decision to allow Imane Khelif to compete in women’s boxing at the Olympics, with MPs and JK Rowling among other critics.

It comes after Italian boxer Angela Carini’s women’s 66kg clash with the Algerian boxer was abandoned after just 46 seconds.

The build-up to the fight was marred by controversy following the inclusion of Khelif, who was one of two athletes cleared to compete in the women’s boxing after being disqualified from last year’s women’s world boxing championships in New Delhi for failing to meet the necessary gender eligibility criteria.

Reem Alsalem, the UN’s special rapporteur on VAWG, said Carini “rightly followed her instincts and prioritised her physical safety, but she and other female athletes should not have been exposed to this physical and psychological violence based on their sex”
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Not wiki, suddenly being allowed as a reliable source from tibbs users...amazing...



What if she was trans @Ammi, what then? What would be your view on that.
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