[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oct 7th there's a documentary coming to Netflix about the case so that should be better

Originally Posted by LaLaLand

There’s a documentary about the case featuring the brothers (via phone from prison) coming to Netflix in October.

Youtube video

…thank you both, I’ll for sure watch the documentary next month…

[bots]

i was just bewildered by this series. I can't think of another way of describing it

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bots

i was just bewildered by this series. I can't think of another way of describing it

Are you going to watch the documentary that's coming out soon?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Are you going to watch the documentary that's coming out soon?

yep

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bots

yep

Good, it will be interesting to see the two side by side

[Niamh.]

Oh just one other piece of information that wasn't in the show (and unfortunately wasn't found until after the verdicts) was

Spoiler:

A letter Erik wrote nine months before the killings to his cousin telling him about the abuse

[bots]

Spoiler:

This event happened in the 80's at which point abuse really wasn't a thing that was talked about, so comparing it with todays environment just doesn't work. Many juries wouldn't believe it was an actual credible possibility

The way the show was dramatised, really didn't work for me. It's like latter series of the crown, where we are all well aware that apart from the key historical facts, the rest was just fiction. Look at the jury discussion during sentencing. That was just complete nonsense. They were going back and questioning whether they were innocent or guilty, where the same jury had just unanimously declared them guilty. The object of sentencing is to determine the death or imprisonment, not to relitigate the case

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bots

Spoiler:

This event happened in the 80's at which point abuse really wasn't a thing that was talked about, so comparing it with todays environment just doesn't work. Many juries wouldn't believe it was an actual credible possibility

The way the show was dramatised, really didn't work for me. It's like latter series of the crown, where we are all well aware that apart from the key historical facts, the rest was just fiction. Look at the jury discussion during sentencing. That was just complete nonsense. They were going back and questioning whether they were innocent or guilty, where the same jury had just unanimously declared them guilty. The object of sentencing is to determine the death or imprisonment, not to relitigate the case

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I stopped watching the Crown, only watched a couple of episodes of the last season

I agree with you though I really didn't like how they dramatised this case. I found it really distasteful how the brothers who were very very likely to have been victims of childhood sexual abuse were really objectified and sexualised in this show

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Spoiler:

I stopped watching the Crown, only watched a couple of episodes of the last season

I agree with you though I really didn't like how they dramatised this case. I found it really distasteful how the brothers who were very very likely to have been victims of childhood sexual abuse were really objectified and sexualised in this show

The gays have been proper thirsting on it for the last few days.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The gays have been proper thirsting on it for the last few days.

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…do you think that it was a good portrayal, Glenn…?…or do you think it was quite ‘Ryan Murphy fantasised…?…‘

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

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…do you think that it was a good portrayal, Glenn…?…or do you think it was quite ‘Ryan Murphy fantasised…?…‘

Just more of the same from Ryan Murphy isn’t it really. I mean it’s like he tried to cover all bases and make you feel for the mum and dad and the brothers but it was a mess.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bots

Spoiler:

This event happened in the 80's at which point abuse really wasn't a thing that was talked about, so comparing it with todays environment just doesn't work. Many juries wouldn't believe it was an actual credible possibility

The way the show was dramatised, really didn't work for me. It's like latter series of the crown, where we are all well aware that apart from the key historical facts, the rest was just fiction. Look at the jury discussion during sentencing. That was just complete nonsense. They were going back and questioning whether they were innocent or guilty, where the same jury had just unanimously declared them guilty. The object of sentencing is to determine the death or imprisonment, not to relitigate the case

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…also, though…that it was discussed that the reason the male jurors didn’t give a not guilty was not because of the case or any evidence put forward…?…it was because they didn’t take to the female defence attorney/…one of them…

[Ammi]

Spoiler:

…I’ve been chatting to someone a bit about it…not in depth but they know more about the case/story than I do and they don’t feel that it was an accurate portrayal…I’m more looking forward to watching the documentary now…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The gays have been proper thirsting on it for the last few days.

Did you watch it? It's just in pretty bad taste considering what they went through as children really. I know that seems to be Ryan Murphys schtick to sexualise everything but it's a bit much when your talking about child abuse victims

Originally Posted by Ammi

Spoiler:

…I’ve been chatting to someone a bit about it…not in depth but they know more about the case/story than I do and they don’t feel that it was an accurate portrayal…I’m more looking forward to watching the documentary now…

Yeah same here Ammi. This dramatisation is supposed to be decent too

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6110318/

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Just more of the same from Ryan Murphy isn’t it really. I mean it’s like he tried to cover all bases and make you feel for the mum and dad and the brothers but it was a mess.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Did you watch it? It's just in pretty bad taste considering what they went through as children really. I know that seems to be Ryan Murphys schtick to sexualise everything but it's a bit much when your talking about child abuse victims



Yeah same here Ammi. This dramatisation is supposed to be decent too

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6110318/

Spoiler:

…also the inference seemed to be that the relationship with the brothers was possibly incestuous…?…which seems to be a fabrication in terms of anything factual written…that was only ever a speculation thing based on a one time incident of Lyle taking Erik into the woods with a toothbrush and enacting something his father had done to him in trying to ‘normalise’ it as something that was done within a family…that abuse act with Erik is something he always admitted and only happened one time…he apparently never abused him again…

[Niamh.]

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[Niamh.]

Oh wow just saw this video from that Prosecutor, she is vile

https://www.tiktok.com/@galendiaries..._t=8qOYYkiJSSA

[Niamh.]

And from a member of the boy band Menudo

https://www.tiktok.com/@truth.about....160602?lang=en

[Niamh.]

This looks promising :

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[Ammi]

…oh I so need to catch up with this, I just haven’t had the time atm…I clicked on the spoiler and then clicked straight back off without reading because I’ll catch up first with the documentary…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…oh I so need to catch up with this, I just haven’t had the time atm…I clicked on the spoiler and then clicked straight back off without reading because I’ll catch up first with the documentary…

[Niamh.]

Spoiler:

great news, the DA that has reviewed the case and has recommended that the brothers be resentenced and could be released. It will be put before a judge tomorrow :fc;

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...on-1236044594/

[LaLaLand]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Spoiler:

great news, the DA that has reviewed the case and has recommended that the brothers be resentenced and could be released. It will be put before a judge tomorrow :fc;

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...on-1236044594/

I literally finished the last episode of the show, picked up my phone, opened Twitter and this was the first thing I saw. Crazy timing!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LaLaLand

I literally finished the last episode of the show, picked up my phone, opened Twitter and this was the first thing I saw. Crazy timing!

I really hope it happens

[Ammi]

…I so need to watch this documentary and the update of their story…I will get around to it soon…