[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I thought this was all known already …that none of this is any new development but that there are and have always been complexities in the specific case of Imane….that she has a genetic condition that impacted her sexual development pre birth and was then assigned female at birth…and she was soicialised, raised etc as a female…anyways I have nothing else to add atm as I don’t feel this article is revealing anything that wasn’t already known and I also don’t feel that it’s a ‘good faith’ article and very slanted in its vein as it comments on Imane’s journey and having his journey despite being fully aware that he was genetically male…him/he/his is not for me atm an informative article and really shabby as this someone who was assigned a female at birth by the medical profession and that was how she was raised…and whatever her sexual development/specific condition etc…what she is and knows is female…


…the combat competitive sporting aspect for me is another aspect to be discussed…

This is and should be all that matters in this particular case. Women's safety should be the number 1 priority followed by women's right to fair play in sport.

[Ammi]

…that wasn’t what the thread/article etc was, though…it was apparently revealing a shocking revelation that so far as I’m aware, was already known and it doesn’t give or reveal anything new …and is also not an article that I’m going to comment further on atm …(…and having given lots of thoughts previously through the Olympics…)…because there isn’t anything new for me to add on information that was already known at the time …and I also don’t feel that from the wording, that it’s a good faith article and has a specific intention which I’m not going to be a part of…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…that wasn’t what the thread/article etc was, though…it was apparently revealing a shocking revelation that so far as I’m aware, was already known and it doesn’t give or reveal anything new …and is also not an article that I’m going to comment further on atm …(…and having given lots of thoughts previously through the Olympics…)…because there isn’t anything new for me to add on information that was already known at the time …and I also don’t feel that from the wording, that it’s a good faith article and has a specific intention which I’m not going to be a part of…

A lot of people did say at the time that the results which excluded both Imane and the other boxer (can't remember their name right now) from a previous competition were not to be trusted because it was the IBA who had done the tests

[Jessica.]

Her being intersex doesn't make her a man, the description sounds like it's describing someone who has something like Swyer syndrome, she is physically just like any other woman minus the ovaries and with the help of IVF could carry a child and give birth. You don't get an advantage in sport with internal testicles.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Her being intersex doesn't make her a man, the description sounds like it's describing someone who has something like Swyer syndrome, she is physically just like any other woman minus the ovaries and with the help of IVF could carry a child and give birth. You don't get an advantage in sport with internal testicles.

The male levels of testosterone should exclude her from fighting a woman in a boxing match. If she wants to live her life as a woman, fair enough, but I never want to see another biological woman being smashed in the face by a biological man ever again.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Livia

The male levels of testosterone should exclude her from fighting a woman in a boxing match. If she wants to live her life as a woman, fair enough, but I never want to see another biological woman being smashed in the face by a biological man ever again.

Where is the actual evidence she is a biological man?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Where is the actual evidence she is a biological man?

Not sure any source will be suitable for those who support biological males in women's sport.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Livia

Not sure any source will be suitable for those who support biological males in women's sport.

I don't support biological males in women's sport.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

Not sure any source will be suitable for those who support biological males in women's sport.

Imane Khelif is a biologically born female


how many times must i keep repeating myself

[Parmy]

She got hired cause she is trans and it ticked boxes,the proof on this is the fact she was **** at her job..only a stubborn fool would refuse to accept that fact.

And this is a rape crisis centre that has hired someone unfit for the job to tick those boxes instead if doing another round of interviews to find someone able and qualified to do the job correctly.

It will take a rape by one of these people in one of these settings make some people wake up and smell the coffee, but even then there will be some calling it a one off.

[Parmy]

Look at the percentages of trans who commit crime compared to the percentages of females and males who commit crime.I wont even bother looking cause I know its going to be about double, and a high percentage of the crimes will be sexual, and committed against women and children.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

You do because what you said is not correct. Just ignorant.

No its correct. I've done my maths, and the whole of TIBB knows your numbers tend not to add up.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

No its correct. I've done my maths, and the whole of TIBB knows your numbers tend not to add up.

Yet here we are with no proof of your ignorant comments. Once again

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Yet here we are with no proof of your ignorant comments. Once again

Do your own research, I'm not your lacky.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

Do your own research, I'm not your lacky.

We both know I’d be wasting my time because what you said, as usual, is complete nonsense.

[Nicky91]

who to believe more in this


news tabloid or actual family who do know her better than anyone else



very difficult




me when i see this forum sinking lower and lower

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

who to believe more in this

news tabloid or actual family who do know her better than anyone else

Well we're not going to find out by asking them directly, Nicky ...

I agree with you that it's unverified.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Maru

Well we're not going to find out by asking them directly, Nicky ...

I agree with you that it's unverified.

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...as-born-a-girl

her father went public though, in a interview with Sky Sports

[Nicky91]

whom this all started with


that salty butthurt italian loser Miss Angela Carini, whom exposed herself as a hypocrite too of not really having anything against Imane either but i guess the potential for a huge media scandal and the following $$$ were too good to resist lol

[Zizu]

Interesting !

“The IOC and the Algerian Olympic Committee are complicit in endorsing
male violence against women under the guise of public entertainment on the
world’s largest sports stage,” Smith said. “They stood by as women were
subjected to physical assault for spectacle, stripped of safety, fairness, and
their lifetime achievements. All those involved must face swift and serious
consequences.”


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[Alf]

What on God's Green Earth is a Cis woman? There's no such thing. There's woman and man. And that's it. You can't just make things up that has no truth and pass it off as fact.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Alf

What on God's Green Earth is a Cis woman? There's no such thing. There's woman and man. And that's it. You can't just make things up that has no truth and pass it off as fact.

Cis means they were born a woman and stayed a woman, if they're not cis they're trans so are you saying only trans people exist?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Cis means they were born a woman and stayed a woman, if they're not cis they're trans so are you saying only trans people exist?

No. I'm saying there's just Woman and Man. That's it. That's nature.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Alf

No. I'm saying there's just Woman and Man. That's it. That's nature.

What about intersex people? What if they have testes and a uterus?

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Alf

What on God's Green Earth is a Cis woman? There's no such thing. There's woman and man. And that's it. You can't just make things up that has no truth and pass it off as fact.

Cis is a Latin word to mean "on this side" as to say you identify as the same side as you were born. It's literally the antonym of "trans" which means "the other side". The word cisgender has been in use for several decades. Hope this helps.