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Old 30-01-2025, 08:32 AM #1
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The 3 Military
in the Expensive Black Hawk Helicopter
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30 bodies found now.
…such a harrowing thing for all of those involved in the recovery…it really is just a ticking off the passenger and staff list process, isn’t it…plus those that were in the helicopter…
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Not uncommon for there to be a lot of helicopters around Washington (for obvious reasons) and from what I've been reading, there have been people (in aviation) saying for years that it's a risk, specifically, passenger planes on take off or landing colliding with a helicopter (exactly what happened). The timing perhaps seems sus with all of the political goings-on, but I think it was perhaps "an accident waiting to happen". People were raising concerns for a while.
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28 Dead collected
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The Military Helicopter
had another plane,
way above him - that may have confused him?

And,
also The Control Tower
appears to have failed


They have played some tapes
on News and Radio

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you do your job, and let the NTSB do theirs

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Duffy is also asked about communication between the helicopter, the commercial plane and flight control - he says there was no breakdown in communication between the military helicopter and the American Airline flight.

"The helicopter was aware that there was a plane in the area," he says.
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I'm not sure people comprehend how difficult it would be to fly a helicopter into the side of a plane, moving perpendicularly, on purpose. The pilot might have been being reckless/incompetent but it being a deliberate attack is more or less impossible.
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I'm not sure people comprehend how difficult it would be to fly a helicopter into the side of a plane, moving perpendicularly, on purpose. The pilot might have been being reckless/incompetent but it being a deliberate attack is more or less impossible.
If it can happen accidentally, I don't see why it would be impossible to do it deliberately for all we know the helicopter might have had a bomb detonated on board Have I watched too many movies
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If it can happen accidentally, I don't see why it would be impossible to do it deliberately for all we know the helicopter might have had a bomb detonated on board Have I watched too many movies
Because for it to be an accident it just has to be a freak "wrong place wrong time" occurrence... for it to be deliberate, the helicopter pilot would have had to precisely gauge hitting the plane, at a 90 degree angle, when the plane is moving at 150mph+, and the helicopter's TOP speed is no more than 150mph.

If that helicopter pilot to have pulled that off on purpose - first time, one shot at it... it's just highly unlikely.

If it had been a head on collision maybe but it was at an angle from the side.
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In the months leading up to the accident, several near-miss incidents were reported at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport (DCA). These included:[19]

An April 2024 incident involving a JetBlue aircraft and a Southwest Airlines flight.
A May 2024 incident where an American Airlines aircraft aborted takeoff to avoid a collision with a private jet.

what if there is a problem with the location of the airport instead

however

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did the airport officials actually go through with these extra measures, that is now the question
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Jesus. I didn’t know about this and it’s right around the corner from me. I was told by a coworker this morning. She said there was only 6 deaths.

I didn’t realise it was that bad.

From what I remember, a black hawk is usually used for stealthy missions or whatever. I hope it wasn’t on purpose
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Aviation Expert Geoffrey Thomas Stated


Covert Style Training they sometimes go black
without having electronics turned on.
But it would be a massive error
to do this close to an Airport.
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Covert Style Training they sometimes go black
without having electronics turned on.
But it would be a massive error
to do this close to an Airport.
Arrogance or deliberate, will be hard to say which
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It's also not the first Helicopter accident involving the military. They do tend to go down more than they should. I am leaning towards incompetence. They may have technology on board they were relying on (we'll never hear about it) and thought that would be enough to keep out of the way.
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It's also not the first Helicopter accident involving the military. They do tend to go down more than they should. I am leaning towards incompetence. They may have technology on board they were relying on (we'll never hear about it) and thought that would be enough to keep out of the way.

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if it involves the forces, the truth will never come out.
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Trump handed over to his Two Government Ministers

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