[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

Alcohol doesn't change your thoughts or your personality; if all it took was a bit of alcohol for him to do it, he wanted to do it.

I doubt he was blackout-drunk, a few drinks isn't an excuse, for any behaviour.

That’s bull sh1t

It’s like saying I’m sure a few drinks didn’t make him crash

You are just trying to dismiss the effects of alcohol on someone so you can push the moral high ground

And you should know better being in the healthcare sector

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

It was several drunken snogs with a "celebrity" at the very public event that has been seen by millions

not "just" a drunken kiss

It was a humiliation

Like you actually give a fcuk about women

Sorry you are ful of it as usual

Just now you said coleen only stayed with Wayne for his money

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Like you actually give a fcuk about women

Sorry you are ful of it as usual

Just now you said only stayed with Wayne for his money

there can be more that one reason

and there is no need to adopt an aggressive tone as it does not make anyone believe you more

[jones89]

Originally Posted by Livia

Of course, Maura knew he was married yet not a word if criticism for her. I realise he's the one who broke his marriage vows but... I wouldn't snog a married man.

Wasn’t she suposed to be dating Pete Wicks or something ?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

So far all we know is it was a drunken kiss

People make mistakes

I'm still waiting for you to explain to me what a "Jewish flag" is. I'd rather not converse with you till that's cleared up.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by jones89

Wasn’t she suposed to be dating Pete Wicks or something ?

Yeah, I remember that. Dating is the one thing she's famous for.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

He had been drinking and people do stupid things under the influence of drink
You can’t bury him over a kiss when coleen Rooney has taken back Wayne after he slept with a granny sex worker

…no one is ‘burying’ him…apparently his wife has moved out of their home together because of that stupid thing he chose to do at a public even, that she felt betrayed and humiliated by…so I guess he’s buried himself it could be said…

[jones89]

It’s almost worse that they have a “history” being in the jungle together… like was there an attraction there the whole time while his wife and kid came to visit him?

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

there can be more that one reason

and there is no need to adopt an aggressive tone as it does not make anyone believe you more

No one believes you full stop
You make it up as you go along depending on your mindset

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by jones89

It’s almost worse that they have a “history” being in the jungle together… like was there an attraction there the whole time while his wife and kid came to visit him?

It compounds the humiliation she must feel

[user104658]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

That’s bull sh1t

It’s like saying I’m sure a few drinks didn’t make him crash

You are just trying to dismiss the effects of alcohol on someone so you can push the moral high ground

And you should know better being in the healthcare sector

I'm not particularly judging him for doing it, I'm saying that if it happened drunk it's something he wanted sober as well, and also his wife has the right to feel however she wants to feel about it. There's no "should or shouldn't" there - some couples don't consider anything less than sex to be "really cheating", others think a kiss is minor, others think it's unforgivable - that's an entirely personal decision ... if it's something she doesn't want to accept, she doesn't have to accept it, and can end their marriage.

Also the "a few drinks didn't make him crash" - I think you're looking at that wrongly, the "bad decision" there isn't crashing the car, it's getting into the car and driving it while drunk. And yes... people are fully to blame if they do that. Morally and, of course, legally - you drunk drive and kill someone, you're going to jail for vehicular manslaughter. Saying to the judge "Sorry pal I'd had a few pints so I wasn't myself!" isn't going to cut it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jones89

It’s almost worse that they have a “history” being in the jungle together… like was there an attraction there the whole time while his wife and kid came to visit him?

The thing is though "an attraction" is what it is. It's totally different to acting on something. Someone having a wee crush doesn't make infidelity an inevitability.

[Glenn.]

Who the **** cares lmao

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I didn’t watch I’m a Celebrity, it’s one of my least liked shows so I have no idea how he came across on that ….but to kiss someone at an after party that is inevitably going to have media sources there is just so disregarding of any consideration for his wife and his child…to engage in that kiss at all is one level of hurt and betrayal to his wife…to have him make that hurt and betrayal so public for her is pretty grim behaviour…

Why would you miss the Live Shows?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Who the **** cares lmao

Yet here you are in the thread, commenting.

[Glenn.]

Yawn

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Why would you miss the Live Shows?

…it’s not a show that has held any entertainment for me for quite a long time, Arista…it is what it is, I’m at peace with that ..…

[arista]

[Sam Thompson's heartache over Zara McDermott's
speedy new romance with Louis Tomlinson
after his five year relationship struggled
to recover from Love Island beauty's
cheating shame]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ing-shame.html