[bots]

i have no idea what the figures are for young people registered as disabled and unable to work. Is there a published figure? Without that, i don't know how we can be expected to comment

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by bots

i have no idea what the figures are for young people registered as disabled and unable to work. Is there a published figure? Without that, i don't know how we can be expected to comment

I saw this yesterday showing the big rise in young people out of work on sickness benefits

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I saw this yesterday showing the big rise in young people out of work on sickness benefits

Weird I wonder if anything happened in 2020 that would explain a sudden statistical shift like this, nothing is springing to mind

[arista]

[bots]

40% increase does seem a bit mad

[Parmy]

Related: Deep cuts, Pip and ‘right to try’ work: the key changes in UK benefits overhaul


This right to work thing, now correct me if I'm wrong, but wont that require some extraordinary assistance from uk employers? And well, after the last budget, will that backing be there! I think NOT!

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Beso

Related: Deep cuts, Pip and ‘right to try’ work: the key changes in UK benefits overhaul


This right to work thing, now correct me if I'm wrong, but wont that require some extraordinary assistance from uk employers? And well, after the last budget, will that backing be there! I think NOT!

They are all going to go into the Army apparently

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They are all going to go into the Army apparently

seems like just what we need. Pissed off people that are trained to kill

[arista]

New Claimants

April 2026 getting £97 Universal Credit
will get £50, instead. per week.

[arista]

A Disabled Lady
just spoke on LBC Live.

She wants to work
but can not if she wants benefits.

Her illness goes up and down.

She also said she has been Suicidal.



Terrible caller
in the sense,
she is not getting proper fair help.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by arista

A Disabled Lady
just spoke on LBC Live.

She wants to work
but can not if she wants benefits.

Her illness goes up and down.

She also said she has been Suicidal.



Terrible caller
in the sense,
she is not getting proper fair help.

Which is why the government bringing a right to try scheme is a very much needed upgrade

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Which is why the government bringing a right to try scheme is a very much needed upgrade

The right to try scheme will require backing from employers, this is where it starts to unravel and fail cause I doubt many employers will back anything labour does after the last budgets raid on employers.


Unless of course they can offer them a monetary incentive from all the savings they will be making...


Drip
Drip
Drip...like a wet sponge

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Which is why the government bringing a right to try scheme is a very much needed upgrade

who is going to give her a job? its hard enough for healthy people to find work, and with the employer NI increasing next month, employers are shedding staff 10,000 alone from NHS England, and you think they are going to take someone on, train them up with a view that in 6 months they might decide they are unfit for the role....please open your eyes ...anyone who tries a job will then be required to look for work .if they leave the job they 'tried' ...that is what is going to happen

[Livia]

This Labour government, and every government that's come before despise the working class, they despise the sick and infirm, they despise the homeless and downtrodden and they have utter contempt for poor pensioners. They are happy to continue the great replacement, bringing in other cultures and planting them in communities where those who can afford to leave, will leave. I hope they don't last the full term for the sake of the country.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

This Labour government, and every government that's come before despise the working class, they despise the sick and infirm, they despise the homeless and downtrodden and they have utter contempt for poor pensioners. They are happy to continue the great replacement, bringing in other cultures and planting them in communities where those who can afford to leave, will leave. I hope they don't last the full term for the sake of the country.

To be replaced by who? Reform? Even if you believe in their "policies", it's a gaggle of beer sozzled old pub rats posing as career politicians; they have absolutely no idea what they're doing, and that would be evident for YEARS if they got in. The alternative would be them being stacked with defecting MP's from Tories and Labour in which case, same-old-same-old, what's the actual difference?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

To be replaced by who? Reform? Even if you believe in their "policies", it's a gaggle of beer sozzled old pub rats posing as career politicians; they have absolutely no idea what they're doing, and that would be evident for YEARS if they got in. The alternative would be them being stacked with defecting MP's from Tories and Labour in which case, same-old-same-old, what's the actual difference?

Blah blah...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Blah blah...

I suppose this is an expected response if you have no actual thoughts beyond reactionary whinging.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

To be replaced by who? Reform? Even if you believe in their "policies", it's a gaggle of beer sozzled old pub rats posing as career politicians; they have absolutely no idea what they're doing, and that would be evident for YEARS if they got in. The alternative would be them being stacked with defecting MP's from Tories and Labour in which case, same-old-same-old, what's the actual difference?

I say let them have a go. I can't remember the last time Reform was in charge. Has that ever happened?

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I have kidney disease and one day will need dialysis.
But I have no intention of stopping work. I can change to part time if I can't cope with full time or change my hours/shift to suit.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I say let them have a go. I can't remember the last time Reform was in charge. Has that ever happened?

They didn't exist before 2021, so no. It isn't a real party. But with the way things are going, they probably will get to "have a go". Spoiler: it will be a complete disaster.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

To be replaced by who? Reform? Even if you believe in their "policies", it's a gaggle of beer sozzled old pub rats posing as career politicians; they have absolutely no idea what they're doing, and that would be evident for YEARS if they got in. The alternative would be them being stacked with defecting MP's from Tories and Labour in which case, same-old-same-old, what's the actual difference?

Oh how I hope not.
I'd rather have pre Theresa May Cons back than narcissistic Farage and his more like from the 1930s divisively destructive gang.
So despite my now ever growing dismay at what the current Labour government is doing at this present time anyhow.
I'll wait to see what is the situation in 3 to 4 years time.
Little of the shambolic mess left by the last government could ever have been turned around in only months

I hope Reform NEVER EVER get into power and particularly never get their hands on the NHS either.
With their ideas on that.
The only mantra constantly spouted out from Farage's Reform is that those of other Countries and cultures are the biggest reason for the UK's woes

Not the fact that capitalist governance was in place right up to WW2
Then in place for nearly 50 of the 80 years almost since the end of the war.
With a 13 year unbroken run in the 50s/60s.
Then an 18 year run from 1979 to 1997.

Then again from 2010 to 2024.
Yet look at the chaos that's been left.

The very last solution to that should be to turn to an even harder line of capitalism from Farage and his now possibly even more PREJUDICIAL (UKIP MK3) Reform lot.
Who only seem to want to create and build up suspicion, distrust and even hate against people of other Countries and cultures.

[Parmy]

it's a gaggle of beer sozzled old pub rats


Proper working class...


But yeah, reform.. waste of time and resources, and not for me.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Im all for getting people into work.
As long as the genuine people who need help don't lose it.
Remember life can change in in instant, anyone could find themselves needed help.

[arista]

Yes Vanessa
you are our great tibb
hard worker.

[bots]

politics is evolving. People will look back at the labour government and will say, this isn't for me. They will likely look at every political party and think the same. Musk is going to influence the next election by throwing cash at his preferred candidate. It wouldn't surprise me if Farage is thrown to the wolves and a new face/party pops up