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Old 18-02-2008, 06:33 PM #26
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Nasty, Evil, Clever, Bitchy, game player, Manipulator, a Smart gameplayer, cocky and funny.
Those words describe Makosi more than Grace.
It descirbes both of them, although Makosi is the better gameplayer, Grace was the better bitch and quite a good manipulator, she had many sides to her character, had of she stayed long, we would of seen more side to it.
I do agree, Grace was really smart but she has been evicted too early, and that ruined BB7, well for me. Same thing for Sezer, he left when he shouldn't have.
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Grace was extremely clever with it. She had everyone believing her, and going against Sam.
Thanks. Hoped she stayed longer then we would of got to see a lot of sides to her.
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I disagree with Makosi. She was an attention seeking and I don't think anything she did was part of a game. She just wanted to be centre of it all.

Victor was a lapdog for the Jason. I even think Ahmed was a better player then him.
Makosi made people think what she wanted them to think, and she had to be the center of attention, that was a part of her game, and the secret missions helped her a lot. She has always claimed she wanted to win then she needed to make people arguing against each other and to divide the house in 2 parts.
Without Makosi, BB6 would have been more boring than BB4 without a doubt.

And I consider Victor and Jason as a team, not slave-master relationship. They both played well but Victor should have shut his mouth against Shell, his game screwed up.
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Nasty, Evil, Clever, Bitchy, game player, Manipulator, a Smart gameplayer, cocky and funny.
Those words describe Makosi more than Grace.
It descirbes both of them, although Makosi is the better gameplayer, Grace was the better bitch and quite a good manipulator, she had many sides to her character, had of she stayed long, we would of seen more side to it.
I do agree, Grace was really smart but she has been evicted too early, and that ruined BB7, well for me. Same thing for Sezer, he left when he shouldn't have.
Yep it ruined a character who had a lot of potential, but still a vastly one of the most remembered BB characters, thanks to GB public.
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I dont think I would have watched BB7 if Grace had stayed in. It would have been like Charley in BB8. Grace did what she did and was ultimately voted out because of it. If she was such a good game player she'd have played nice every now and again.
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She was entertaining though x
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I don't think she's the best villain of Big Brother. She felt remorse for her actions, and villains have no feelings.

Makosi, on the other hand, didn't take the hint when she and Vanessa were up for nomination.
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I'd say the best gameplayer was Brian (BB8) - he played the game better than the others, because he won. Pete also played it very well.
Pete was fake but he wasent playing the game.
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I agree. Grace was the worst. Grace would never of been nominated for eviction if it hadn't been for Susie. They had to put Susie in (who knew what she was like) to get her out. Grace had most of the house on side. Sure she had her battles with Richard and the others, but they wouldn't of nominated her. To manipulate the house like that...she really was a villain.
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I'd say the best gameplayer was Brian (BB8) - he played the game better than the others, because he won. Pete also played it very well.
Pete was fake but he wasent playing the game.
Yeah he knew he won since day 1 and just enjoyed the whole situation.
And I don't even talk about Brian, fakest man on earth, at least Makosi assumes.

By the way, I don't know if some remember what makosi said in the final "Well I do look at myself as a winner, look at all those girls, I'm the last female waling out of that house". This is just hilarious, it was the best interview ever.
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Grace is the biggest female b*tch ever to be on BB, but she was a really good game player, and that's the whole point of BB, to play the game.

I don't dislike her, but she was nasty in the house.
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Everyone's overlooking Charley. Sure she may not have been the best gameplayer in BB history or the sharpest tool in the box, but she did have her moments. Remember how she turned Tracey and Brian against Seany on nominations day because he put water in to her shoes and how she manipulated everyone on her fake eviction with her claims about everybody loves me and "Banners with love hearts!!"

She did what any great BB villain should do: be controversial, compelling to watch and survive for as long as possible!!

When she left the ratings nosedived, such was her impact.
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Everyone's overlooking Charley. Sure she may not have been the best gameplayer in BB history or the sharpest tool in the box, but she did have her moments. Remember how she turned Tracey and Brian against Seany on nominations day because he put water in to her shoes and how she manipulated everyone on her fake eviction with her claims about everybody loves me and "Banners with love hearts!!"

She did what any great BB villain should do: be controversial, compelling to watch and survive for as long as possible!!

When she left the ratings nosedived, such was her impact.
BB8 ratings were even poor when Charley was around, her going didn't really effect too much rating loss. Charley to me was the worst villain, there was no cleverness in her arguments or gameplaying, she was just in your face like MS piggy.
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For me the villains of BB were not the ones we were seeing

Ferrets in a sack behave like ferrets in a sack

apologies to ferrets

For me in second place are meddling producers who were opportunistic at times, cowardly and spinless and at times down right incompetance for which the term Duty of care seemed to have escaped them.

But far the worse villain was revealed at the end of BB1, by Craig Philips

It was the un-named person who denied a life saving operation to a woman, just because she had downs syndrome.

It was thanks to BB that there was a review of medical tratment to those with downs.

My niece has Downs, so I must declare an interest
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