[AngRemembered]

I used to but don't now, not for 15 years.

I like Lauren, weighed up exactly that balnce of what value they gave to me against the cost, both finicial, health, and just as impotantly the social and cosmetic cost.
Often I would hear people didnt like the smoking so I was invited to places less by friends, and that probably more than anything made me realise it was a habit that was just not worth the price.
Thankfully, I also gave up 5 years before being diagnosed with cancer or I really would have been upset, it would have seemed and even bigger direct result.

[Rocko]

I don't smoke.

The only occasions I do smoke is when clubbing and I'm p*ssed and a mate has dragged me out for a fag and I nick theirs and smoke it.

[BigSister]

nope i dont smoke and will probably never will. I dont like the smell it gives on your clothes and i just probably will never will im not sure why

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by Rocko
I don't smoke.

The only occasions I do smoke is when clubbing and I'm p*ssed and a mate has dragged me out for a fag and I nick theirs and smoke it.

same i always feel bad about it the next day though and wonder why but i hardly ever do it so its not that bad

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Very_Nayce

Who said you have to be a genius? Every smoker KNOWS its bad for you. But they do it by choice. Because they like it. And you only live once. Im not about to stop them or put myself on a moral pedestal.

Still, I like how you avoided all the arguments to bring your family into it, which is incredibly unfair. Sure, you have your reasons for not smoking, but others have their reasons FOR smoking, so just leave them be!

The government is already spending enough telling us not to smoke!

Hey I haven't even spoken to half of my family in about three years so that has **** all to do with it, I'm simply using them as examples.

Leave them be?!?! You are the one that started this by having a go at me. It would have been just as easy for you to make your point without having to bring me into it.

Maybe if some people actually listened to the goverment then they wouldn't have to put so much money into warning us and could put some money into some more worthy causes such as the shitty healthy system.

[Very_Nayce]

Originally posted by Gazbo

Hey I haven't even spoken to half of my family in about three years so that has **** all to do with it, I'm simply using them as examples.

Leave them be?!?! You are the one that started this by having a go at me. It would have been just as easy for you to make your point without having to bring me into it.

Maybe if some people actually listened to the goverment then they wouldn't have to put so much money into warning us and could put some money into some more worthy causes such as the shitty healthy system.

Your argument fails again. If your family dont matter, why bring them in as examples? I dont need examples. Im perfectly aware of statistics.

And I was 'having a go at you' because you were such a vehement anti smoker, using silly language and calling smokers stupid just for making their own personal choice. If you cant handle a debate, what the hell are you even doing posting? Dont back out now just because the chips are down.

Also, I would venture a guess that the government have NO problem spending all that money telling us not to smoke, when you consider THE TAXES THEY ARE GETTING from people buying cigarettes. So thats another point taken care of.

[Firewire]

No I don't. It's vile. There is 12/13 year olds in my school smoking acting like neds (a scottish word for hooligans). I hold my breath whenever I walk past them smoking. It is literally terrible.

[Rocko]

Originally posted by supernoodles!

same i always feel bad about it the next day though and wonder why but i hardly ever do it so its not that bad

It's funny because they tell me off, not for pinching their fags but because they say it's bad FOR ME.

Personally I'd never do it sober, because I just don't get any positive feeling from smoking. If I got any kick from it then maybe but, never. I think I'm doing it wrong.

[Captain.Remy]

Yes I do and I'm pi$$sed off of people telling me 'It's bad' ang blablabla. Let me do want I want to and let it go, people think they need to be involved in your predicament.
I love it and I am proud of it and if a non-smoker starts to annoy me then I tell that one to get lost.

[Matt08]

No I don't, it's a vile and disgusting habit that can cause people health and financial problems. I'm staying well away from them.

[Very_Nayce]

The same can be said of drink, if you exchange all the lung and heart problems for hooliganism and violence. In fact, on a social level, drink does far more damage.

But we cant go giving up drink can we? Noooo, thats different. And we will defend it to the death like the hypocritical bastards that we are.

I just find it hillarious when people so willingly point out that its vile and it can cause health problems.

Well duh?...

[Rocko]

Originally posted by Very_Nayce
The same can be said of drink, if you exchange all the lung and heart problems for hooliganism and violence. In fact, on a social level, drink does far more damage.

But we cant go giving up drink can we? No, thats different.

True, and the same can be said of over eating.

A documentary on smoking pointed out that although people will happily tell you not to smoke because it's bad for your health, they wouldn't necessarily do the same for a clearly obese person stuffing their face with cake.

[Very_Nayce]

Originally posted by Rocko

True, and the same can be said of over eating.

A documentary on smoking pointed out that although people will happily tell you not to smoke because it's bad for your health, they wouldn't necessarily do the same for a clearly obese person stuffing their face with cake.

Thats a very good point. But hey, you cant get passive fat from standing next to somebody eating, so why would joe public give a ****? People just want something to bitch about because their lives are so miserable. Well I cant kill anybody in a car because im smoking a ****ing cigarette.

[Fom]

I proud myself on never smoking in anywhere public, the most public place i've ever smoked was in a smoking area in a club or pub and if there are non smokers there then its their own fault.

[Rocko]

Originally posted by Very_Nayce

Thats a very good point. But hey, you cant get passive fat from standing next to somebody eating, so why would joe public give a ****?

Lol...passive fat. Imagine that

You could in a way though be drawn to also eating cake?

..ok . . ok . . I'll let that one go.

[Very_Nayce]

Originally posted by Fom
I proud myself on never smoking in anywhere public, the most public place i've ever smoked was in a smoking area in a club or pub and if there are non smokers there then its their own fault.

Im the same. And I find it both hillarious and deeply depressing that despite the fact that smokers are being given less and less rights, non smokers still cry out for more.

Their are some people who im sure believe in their heart and souls that in the time it takes them to WALK PAST a smoker, they will get lung cancer.

~~oHHH passife smokin kills me!!!

My arse it does. how long do you non smokers spend around somebody smoking fags at the bus stop, seriously?

[thisisme2008]

I smoke about 3/4 a day, and it's not like a smoker really chooses to, for me, I was addicted before I knew it and I can't stop. Well I could but I choose not to. There are so many reasons why people smoke, and I have no problem with people smoking or not smoking as long as they don't try to lecture me. I know the risks and i choose to take them.

[Legend]

Very_Nayce has said everything I think on it, and on some of your views on smoking.

Though I'd love to see those of you who hold your breath walking past a smoker walk past a line of 20 people having a cig.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by thisisme2008
I smoke about 3/4 a day, and it's not like a smoker really chooses to, for me, I was addicted before I knew it and I can't stop. Well I could but I choose not to.

Did I misunderstand your post?

First you say you didn't choose to be addicted, then you said you're addicted... but you're not addicted cos you can stop when you want... but you choose not to?

[thisisme2008]

Originally posted by Lauren

Did I misunderstand your post?

First you say you didn't choose to be addicted, then you said you're addicted... but you're not addicted cos you can stop when you want... but you choose not to?

yeah sorry that is phrased craply. What I meant was this:

The original poster said that he doesn't get why people do it and I was meaning that although I choose to smoke, I wasn't really doing it to start with with the intention of carrying on but I was addicted within about 2 weeks. And although I could stop I don't want to. Although we made the choice to smoke, we can't really control cravings and so the element of choice is somewhat diminished. That is what i was trying to say. I'm still not sure if that makes sense.

[melanie]

I'm an occasional smoker, I can stop smoking anytime I want. I smoke only when I'm stressed. I don't really mind people smoking around me because I like the smell of smoke.

[Stewart]

No, my dad, grandad and gran all smoke and seeing the money and health impacts on those along with the dislike for the smell of smoke etc i never will

[LemonJam]

Only when I'm drunk/tipsy.

Otherwise its just a waste of money in my opinion.

[Jakeh]

I used to, but I wasn't really addicted and just thought "Meh. This isn't doing much for me" and I stopped.

OCCASIONALLY I might have one if a friend is, but I generally don't.

[Chemicle]

Nope.