[BB6 housemate]

If God wanted Nadia or Nigel whatever you want to call him, to be a woman then she'd have been a woman. Surely the NHS should be spending money on worthwhile operations not on chopping of d***s because someone doesn't want it. Somebody with cancer could have died because he (nigel) wanted his d**k chopping off.

Men are Men
&
Women are Women

You are what your born.

VIC TO WIN

[Amy]

Originally posted by LEE
I find it deeply saddening that there are so many prejudiced people around.

Agree LEE it's awful.

[Deus Ex Machina]

I find it saddning that people are bending over backward so hard to be 'politically correct' that they can't see facts.

Nadia is male. He was born male, and will never be female.

So what if he chooses to look like a woman? He's nothing more than a high-tech drag queen.

As for "nadias female because she has chosen to be female, its a free country, only small minded people dont accept this".
Well, that's a good point. Maybe we should free all the pedofiles and rapists, after all, they made the choice, and it's a free world.

Unbelievable.

[BB6 housemate]

i agree

we might aswell allow all these asylum seekers in aswell



lets hope there's some more like Ahmed

a = amazing
h = hero
m = mega
e = EEEEEEEEEEEEAAASSSY
d = dillerious

[p2pnut]

Dear 'Deus Ex Machina' & 'BB6 housemate',

Well dearies, judging by your avid interest in Nadia's gender, this is obviously an area that strangely draws you.

I can see, from your complete lack of scientific knowledge, that you girls must be very confused and, possibly, a little frightened by the subject of sexuality - especially your own I suspect.

Don't worry my loves, we understand ....... it is sooo difficult coming out isn't it?

I may have retired from my work in the Psychiatric field, but I just want to let you know that I am always available, should you want to talk things over (in complete confidence of course).

On the plus side ....... at least you have found one another. I do hope that you will find comfort and support in your new-found friendship ----- awww, Bless!

Peace and Love

p2pnut

[Deus Ex Machina]

A psychiatrist that doesn't understand basic genetics?
Rrrright - and I'm Jon Tickle.

Bet you love the fact that school's broken up, huh?

[Kore]

GET BORING NADIA OUT.
boring, moody and childish, and fake!
09011 21 44 08
text NADIA to 84444

[Deus Ex Machina]

Spam monkey.

[LEE]

I'm replused by some of the views on this thread.

[john2000]

nadia is a complete woman inside n outside

[Kore]

yup shes woman inside and out, definately!
but damn shes moody, boring and unentertaining isnt she?
get her out of that house

[Deus Ex Machina]

Originally posted by LEE
I'm replused by some of the views on this thread.

Such as?

[LEE]

The narrow minded, bigotted ones put forward by yourself and some others.

[Deus Ex Machina]

Hahaha!

You mean the scientifically correct ones?

[Deus Ex Machina]

Okay, quick test - you're a guy, right Lee?

[Sticks]

I am leaving the scientific and ethical side of the debate on this, while this thread remains unlocked (A status I suspect will change if the way certain posters are going on here)

My question is one of law.

In times past, if someone had a gender realignment, in the eyes of British law they had to be considered their original gender. This was even tested in the international court of human rights many years ago by a transexual claiming that British law breached human rights, they lost.

I heard somewhere that the law has changed.

Is this the case and if so when did it change?

[Deus Ex Machina]

Hmm - Google confirms the loss at the human rights court, but not any change since.

[liliacqueen]

i see nadia as a woman as she acts like a woman although she may have manly features she is still a woman.

[Deus Ex Machina]

Have you all heard of a disease called 'Otherkin'?
It's a clinically recognised ailment where the sufferer is convinced that they should be (or in fact are) an animal.

So, if an Otherkin sufferer says he is a dog, do you agree with him?

[liliacqueen]

but somebody who is human saying there a dog is diffrent to a human saying what sex they nadia looks like a female and if nadia wants to be female then let her be a female. just because she dosent have femal things such as a uterus does i really matter? but we are all entitled to our own openions.

[flyfly5]

Originally posted by BB6 housemate
Surely the NHS should be spending money on worthwhile operations not on chopping of d***s because someone doesn't want it. Somebody with cancer could have died because he (nigel) wanted his d**k chopping off.

You're entitled to your opinion, but the human race wouldnt get around to doing anything fun, if we tried to cure all diseases beforehand.

[flyfly5]

Nadia, is a nice transexual, beautiful in her own right. To use a term I heard once, she is a "bitchoid". I love Nadia.

Oh and I love oranges and lemons. mmmmm.

[Slartibartfast]

Originally posted by Sticks
I am leaving the scientific and ethical side of the debate on this, while this thread remains unlocked (A status I suspect will change if the way certain posters are going on here)

My question is one of law.

In times past, if someone had a gender realignment, in the eyes of British law they had to be considered their original gender. This was even tested in the international court of human rights many years ago by a transexual claiming that British law breached human rights, they lost.

I heard somewhere that the law has changed.

Is this the case and if so when did it change?

I might have an answer on this one for you, Sticks, but I'll have to confirm everything when I am back in work on Monday.

Anyway, at the moment "post-surgical transsexuals" can have their new gender/identities recognized for things like passports, driver's licenses, and NHS I.D., but they can't obtain new birth certificates. The ECHR case involved this issue, and was lost. The UK Government argued that the birth certificate is a record of what happened at birth, and cannot be altered at a later date. I think the issue was argued under article 8, (right to private and family life) possibly in connection with Article 14 (freedom from discrimination) But it was lost and the law stands.

However, there is some movement within the Government now, with draft bills concerning Gender Recognition Certficates (will be the equivalent of a birth cert), and full legal recognition of transsexual and same sex marriages. There is a very brief mention of the draft bill in the extract from Hansard below:

Hansard

We have an expert on the new law reforms in work, and I can check with her on Monday if you're desperate to know more!!

[LEE]

Originally posted by Deus Ex Machina
Okay, quick test - you're a guy, right Lee?

Something else you're wrong about.

[rachb]

I remember watching something with a couple where the husband was going to become a woman.The wife was fine about him having the operation and him having a new passport and all sorts of things like that but it meant that they could no longer remain married.I have no idea why this is but it seems so silly when the couple are happy with each other.
As for Nadia I don't really care what she is classed as I think she is a nice person and thats all that matters.I hope that she finds the man of her dreams and lives happily ever after