[Z]

Originally posted by Shaun

I think that the majority of the people surveyed are probably readers of the Sun whose limited interest in politics ends at "SEND DEM ****** MUSLIMS BACK HOME".

I cannot and will not take a party, who, fundamentally, believe that non-whites are not British, seriously. End of.

Yeah, never mind people who can't accept that whites can be Indian.

I agree with Tom's points about positives and negatives about every political Party; the BNP's negative is just a bit too far out there for them to ever become a mainstream party. Are they realistically even going to get to make any kind of anti-ethnic minority policies in the EU though? The only foreseeable problems are BNP representatives actively refusing to communicate with ethnic minority constituents.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Lauren

We'll have to agree to disagree, cos I certainly disagree with that. You make a good point that no-one likes every policy of any party, but when one of the policies is outright FASCIST, I think it's safe to say it wipes them from my choices.

Same with me, but for some people if it means other extreme views can come into practice then its just something that has to happen ... better than having murderers go down for say 4 years out of 18. But as I say I wouldn't think like that anyway

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Zee
Yeah, never mind people who can't accept that whites can be Indian.

pmsl

Ewwww 2 BNP seats.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Tom

Same with me, but for some people if it means other extreme views can come into practice then its just something that has to happen ... better than having murderers go down for say 4 years out of 18. But as I say I wouldn't think like that anyway

Sorry if it sounded like I was suggesting you were one of them I just meant the BNP-voters. I genuinely cannot accept any justification for people voting a fascist regime, other than that they are ignorant to what they're truly voting for.

[Z]

I really doubt that all of the votes for the BNP came from racist people; I think it was more about making a statement, particularly against Labour, because the BNP are, at present, the only extreme Party in the public eye. I think that Labour are going to lose the next General Election in the UK, and if their next leader has any common sense, he's going to reverse what Tony Blair did and turn the Party into a more left wing Party again; in order to win votes.

[Shaun]

I don't know if that's the case - if people were disillusioned with Labour, why go for the most extreme possibility? You wouldn't, with all intelligence and level-headedness, stumble into the poll-booths and blindly ignore some of the BNP's most well-known and hated ideals.

I think Nick Griffin was bound to win because he's a well-known figure, but the Yorkshire seat...*shrug*

[Z]

Originally posted by Shaun
I don't know if that's the case - if people were disillusioned with Labour, why go for the most extreme possibility? You wouldn't, with all intelligence and level-headedness, stumble into the poll-booths and blindly ignore some of the BNP's most well-known and hated ideals.

I think Nick Griffin was bound to win because he's a well-known figure, but the Yorkshire seat...*shrug*

Where else are they going to go (Labour voters)? There is no alternative. The Liberal Democrats were formed because they disagreed with the Labour Party; they're only similar now because Labour have changed so much, Labour voters would never vote Conservative and they're not going to vote Lib Dems, because they're the same as Labour! It sounds ludicrous, I know, but I really do believe that this is the case. Intelligence doesn't factor into it; angry people aren't rational people or level-headed.

[Shaun]

UKIP, Green, independent...

I don't know. I don't doubt that there are some voters who HAVE done what you're describing, I'm just sceptical as to whether or not it's always the case.

[Z]

Originally posted by Shaun
UKIP, Green, independent...

I don't know. I don't doubt that there are some voters who HAVE done what you're describing, I'm just sceptical as to whether or not it's always the case.

Again, that comes down to personal preference. The Greens have policies about the environment that are fully comprehensive, they are underdeveloped elsewhere. Independent candidates aren't going to be represented in every area, and don't have enough coverage to be widely known in each area they happen to be in; UKIP maybe, but yeah, personal preference. Hardcore supporters of Labour and Conservative who no longer feel attached to their Party are going to be looking to make a statement; the BNP represent affirmative action and intentions of doing something, it doesn't really matter to these voters what they're doing. It's not going to be true of all these BNP voters, but I'd say the majority of people who have voted BNP for the first time tonight would have voted for this reason.

[arista]

Stinking New Labour Lost 5 MEP's
Bliss.

[Z]

Originally posted by arista
Stinking New Labour Lost 5 MEP's
Bliss.

Were you pleased last night/this morning when you found out, arista?

[lily.]

Originally posted by Zee
I really doubt that all of the votes for the BNP came from racist people; I think it was more about making a statement, particularly against Labour, because the BNP are, at present, the only extreme Party in the public eye. I think that Labour are going to lose the next General Election in the UK, and if their next leader has any common sense, he's going to reverse what Tony Blair did and turn the Party into a more left wing Party again; in order to win votes.

I'd agree in part with what you said Greg.

However, something else which can't be overlooked is the new breed of racist we have. I'm referring to people who weren't brought up racist, but have developed racist viewpoints because of how this country is currently run.

A lot of people feel that British citizens are not treated as well as foreign immigrants. A lot of people are sick of the over-sensitivity which exists in some parts of government/media regarding nationality/religion.

So, I think a lot of the BNP vote will have come from people who are disillusioned with what this country has become.

However, for me personally, their extreme views stop me from ever giving them a vote. I would like to see murderers given life sentences but no sugar-coated policy is enough to compensate for their main agenda.

SNP is still a major party up here though, so any anti-Labour/Tory votes usually go there.