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Old 12-12-2013, 07:07 PM #1
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Why the ****** would a civil rights film showing black people being hose piped started to melt her heart? She used to torture and murder them continuously, but put it on telly with a gospel hit over the top and she sees the error of her ways? Bit ridiculous.

Good episode though, and it's really set up for some fireworks when it returns.
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like I get they wanted a powerful scene but that was just stupid. If they really wanted to show her softening up, it should have taken a lot more actual interactions with Queenie and the Voodoos and black people in general. There's actually an undeniable racist undertone to this season itself and this episode in particular that revealed the producers'/writers'/society's prejudices in that EVERY black character bar Laveau was slain without so much as knowing their names aside from Queenie and Laveau and maybe some random hairdresser who did nothing. And OMG at Queenie and Laveau (Queenie especially bc cmon) not being in the titles is just ridiculous.

I know it's called "Coven" but I would have loved to have explored the Voodoo side maybe um... a little bit? Instead, the black characters were used as nameless pawns to ultimately develop the storylines of white people. Laveau better get some depth and backstory in the next few episodes (which I believe she will) or else this show is just really racist and that sucks because Asylum was all about tearing down prejudices and even helped warm my homophobic mother's crusty heart

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Why the ****** would a civil rights film showing black people being hose piped started to melt her heart? She used to torture and murder them continuously, but put it on telly with a gospel hit over the top and she sees the error of her ways? Bit ridiculous.

Good episode though, and it's really set up for some fireworks when it returns.
I thought this as well it was quite touching though

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Yeah the pillow kill was pretty obvious when she told him "go to sleep". I really liked this episode. Too many characters died that didn't need to though, Luke and (idk if she's actually dead, but I'm just gonna assume since she like shot herself in the face) Queenie Madame Lalaurie has been awful lately, but I still can't help liking her.
She's a human voodoo doll, so if she died it'll be from Hank shooting her rather than her shooting herself in the head, I think they'll probably bring her back though
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She's a human voodoo doll, so if she died it'll be from Hank shooting her rather than her shooting herself in the head, I think they'll probably bring her back though
Yeah I got that part I just thought the music was kind of dramatic for a scene in which she doesn't die. It just gave off the feeling that she was dead for good.
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I found the ending very emotional, not so much due to Delhpine's reaction but because there was a hard-hitting realisation that segregation happened in the world we live in, and it equality is still not at the point it should regarding society.

I totally understand why people would find it ridiculous; watching a decapitated head cry was too much for me too handle in itself.

Myrtle Snow and Misty Day are the queens of this season thus far. I love Cordelia and Misty's relationship.
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Queen Queenie is obviously not dead I dont think any of the main ones will die
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makes a change, the past 2 series only one main character was left alive
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oh I've only seen this series
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Im up to date now. I love this season it might just edge Asylum
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1830: Madame LaLaurie, newly arrived in New Orleans, discovers her penchant for cruelty.

Today: As the Coven mourns one of their own, Cordelia realizes that her mother needs to be stopped. Meanwhile, The Corporation covers their tracks, as Harrison plans a double-cross. We learn more about Madame LaLaurie's past and present, as she finds her circumstances more and more intolerable. She returns to a horrifying pastime of old that will make the hours bearable for her again... and finds an unexpected ally and kindred spirit, who offers her a chance at getting the one thing she truly wants. As Fiona and the Axeman make plans for the future, Cordelia tries to regain the trust of an embittered Queenie. Zoe and Kyle pursue justice – but they're interrupted by a jealous Madison. Cordelia makes a desperate sacrifice to gain the power she needs to protect the Coven from enemies without and within. Myrtle gives Zoe an unexpected gift to help her and Kyle, though Zoe's not sure she wants it. Fiona and Marie Laveau have a deadly face off with Harrison and The Corporation. And Madame LaLaurie finds that sometimes, you don't get what you want... but you get what you need.

Apparently, Nan dies.
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I heard Connie Britton was in talks to guest starring in an episode this season, don't think it materialised though.
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Maybe Kate Mara too, she plays the psychotic bitch really well.
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I think she'll do guest spots in seasons after, tbh I kinda want S5 to be it's last, i hate when shows out live their sell by date

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