[Strictly Jake]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Thousands of people have gathered for an anti-coronavirus restrictions protest in Trafalgar Square, London.

None of those at the "we do not consent" rally appeared to be social distancing or wearing masks as they demonstrated against government rules.

Protests are exempt from the rule-of-six restrictions, but organisers must submit a risk assessment and comply with social distancing.

Police said the rules were designed to keep people safe from a lethal virus.

The Metropolitan Police said enforcement of distancing rules and dispersing crowds "remains a last resort but will be undertaken if required".

Earlier, police confiscated a makeshift riot shield from one man.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54309603

This is what grinds my gears. All these protests in london yet the case rate apparently isnt that high yet where I live no protests whatsoevet and we are in lockdown!!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Thousands of people have gathered for an anti-coronavirus restrictions protest in Trafalgar Square, London.

None of those at the "we do not consent" rally appeared to be social distancing or wearing masks as they demonstrated against government rules.

Protests are exempt from the rule-of-six restrictions, but organisers must submit a risk assessment and comply with social distancing.

Police said the rules were designed to keep people safe from a lethal virus.

The Metropolitan Police said enforcement of distancing rules and dispersing crowds "remains a last resort but will be undertaken if required".

Earlier, police confiscated a makeshift riot shield from one man.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54309603

A few months ago I would have said twats, but the bungling mis management has me firmly in their corner now

[bitontheslide]

constant lockdowns are untenable, more and more people will ignore them

[Ammi]

Boris Johnson ‘never discussed 10pm pub curfew with science advisers’...



A scientist advising Boris Johnson has claimed he never heard the 10pm pub curfew plan discussed before it was announced.

The prime minister told people in England this week to work from home where possible and ordered restaurants and bars to close early from Thursday to tackle a fast-spreading second wave of coronavirus.

Some politicians have questioned whether those measures go far enough, however, with the first minister of Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon, telling households they also cannot mix indoors.

Professor Graham Medley, who sits on the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) committee, has now said the group never talked about the impact the policy of closing hospitality services earlier would have on infection rates.

He said: “I never discussed it or heard it discussed.”

His colleague on Sage, Professor John Edmunds, also previously said the curfew was “fairly trivial” and would have a “very small impact on the epidemic”.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Thousands of people have gathered for an anti-coronavirus restrictions protest in Trafalgar Square, London.



None of those at the "we do not consent" rally appeared to be social distancing or wearing masks as they demonstrated against government rules.



Protests are exempt from the rule-of-six restrictions, but organisers must submit a risk assessment and comply with social distancing.



Police said the rules were designed to keep people safe from a lethal virus.



The Metropolitan Police said enforcement of distancing rules and dispersing crowds "remains a last resort but will be undertaken if required".



Earlier, police confiscated a makeshift riot shield from one man.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54309603

Will we find out how many of them get poorly from today’s outing I wonder


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Boris Johnson ‘never discussed 10pm pub curfew with science advisers’...



A scientist advising Boris Johnson has claimed he never heard the 10pm pub curfew plan discussed before it was announced.

The prime minister told people in England this week to work from home where possible and ordered restaurants and bars to close early from Thursday to tackle a fast-spreading second wave of coronavirus.

Some politicians have questioned whether those measures go far enough, however, with the first minister of Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon, telling households they also cannot mix indoors.

Professor Graham Medley, who sits on the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) committee, has now said the group never talked about the impact the policy of closing hospitality services earlier would have on infection rates.

He said: “I never discussed it or heard it discussed.”

His colleague on Sage, Professor John Edmunds, also previously said the curfew was “fairly trivial” and would have a “very small impact on the epidemic”.

It will have bugger all impact on infection rates

[Ammi]

...yeah, I think that the impact on those businesses with the restrictions/curfew placed on them will be huge though, sadly...if it’s not something that will have infection rate benefit.../..reduction...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

This is what grinds my gears. All these protests in london yet the case rate apparently isnt that high yet where I live no protests whatsoevet and we are in lockdown!!

Its now moved to, Hyde Park

10 arrests, at this time


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[MTVN]

There will be holes in any plan but for me it's obvious that if you restrict the hours of an industry that can be risky (especially with late night venues) then there's less potential for transmission

It's not like this is a new idea as many countries in have done similar as have states in the US

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by MTVN

There will be holes in any plan but for me it's obvious that if you restrict the hours of an industry that can be risky (especially with late night venues) then there's less potential for transmission

It's not like this is a new idea as many countries in have done similar as have states in the US

we will see within the week if it is having a good effect on numbers or not .... my bet is not

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

we will see within the week if it is having a good effect on numbers or not .... my bet is not

Well we might see but I expect infections will still creep up so be hard to know if this has slowed it or not, same as how infections have still risen with masks so we don't know exactly how effective that's been

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well we might see but I expect infections will still creep up so be hard to know if this has slowed it or not, same as how infections have still risen with masks so we don't know exactly how effective that's been

yeah i think at some point 2 metre distance and face masks are less effective in mitigating infection ... we don't know enough about it yet

[arista]

Patients in hospital
1,727

6,042 New Covid-19 cases.

34 Deaths today


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


41,971 Total deaths of Covid-19

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

yeah i think at some point 2 metre distance and face masks are less effective in mitigating infection ... we don't know enough about it yet

Mmm.. today in London



Yesterday in Italy


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[arista]

Yes Zizu
it's going on all over many places in the World.

Except New Zealand.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Zizu
it's going on all over many places in the World.

Except New Zealand.

They are only 5 million or less in an area larger than the UK plus they’re in the middle of nowhere


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[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/0...minister-says/

new coronavirus measures likely in Amsterdam, The Hague our PM had said

[Ammi]

Coronavirus: 'Follow the rules if you want students home for Christmas', says culture secretary...


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...etary-12083205

[bitontheslide]

the student stuff is a mess, but did anyone seriously think it would work out differently the moment they opened them up? I certainly didn't ... and all this talk about isolating students away from their families gets closer to 1984 by the minute. This needn't have happened if they had prepared for distance learning

[Ammi]

...it’s almost like they’re being held hostage or ensure compliance...only for that section of society though...frightening ...

[Toy Soldier]

I think opening up universities for all subjects was probably an error - especially when most subjects can be studied just as effectively by distance learning. They should have given the majority of students the option of deferring or starting the degree fully online.

Some subjects need to be studied on campus (those that require lab and practical access etc.) and some of those subjects had to resume (nursing, medicine, dentistry etc... You can't just put them "on pause" because you'd create a huge workforce deficit next year).

From what I understand, the University nearest to me has basically done that - most subjects are distance learning and that frees up the campus for nursing students etc. who can't really do distance learning, but can be there in person with far fewer other people around, so massively reducing the risks.

[bitontheslide]

as an 18 year old, who wouldn't be crapping it if a squad of police and security turned up and stopped anyone leaving the building, with no opportunity to get food an supplies in