['Conor]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Yeah - when she's in her car and Ghost Face suddenly pops down from the roof and then vanishes as another car leaves the parking lot.

I asked myself, like what would you actually do in that situation?
She had balls to get out of the car, I probably would of stayed in or something.

That scene was so intense, but I think Gale hiding from Ghost Face in Scream 2 is still the most nerve wrecking, I was on the edge of my seat.
When she's like slowly hiding in the recording studio and he's creeping behind her, If that happened in real life it would be the most frightening thing ever.

that was really intense with Gale! Rebecca was screwed, she was doing a smart thing by running to the door anyways, Cici's scene was really intense too when she was walking through her house.

[Patrick]

LOL at Scream's Credits and the little snipe at the end:

'No Thanks what so ever to The Santa Rosa District City School Board'


Wes is such a legend.

[Glenn.]

I'm going to see this again tonight!

[Patrick]

'Please don't do this Roman! I'll give you anything! Extra Salary? FINAL CUT?'
'I already have it. x'

*Slice*
Ohmygod.

['Conor]

"**** you very much. Tyson go to hell."

[Glenn.]

Sidney: 'God why don't you stop your whining and get on with it, I've heard this **** before!'

Roman: 'Stop!'

Sidney: 'You know why you kill people Roman, do you?

Roman: 'DON'T WANNA HERE IT!'

Sidney; 'BECAUSE YOU CHOOSE TO, THERE IS NO ONE ELSE TO BLAME!;

Roman : 'GOD ****ING DAMN IT!'

Sidney: 'WHY DON'T YOU TAKE SOME ****ING RESPONSIBILITY!

Roman: '**** YOU!'

Sidney: '**** YOU!!'

[Glenn.]

Alternate ending for Scream 3

Youtube video

[Patrick]

Love that Brother Sister argument sfm <3

['Conor]

me no likey Roman..

it tops it all for me though when Jennifer thought Roman killed Sarah,

"Wow Roman... Remind me not to sleep with him again!"

[michael21]

seen it save the cheerleader save the world

['Conor]

awh Marnie (Brittany Robertson) is so cute!

she looks so innocent when she says "where are you going" and "i know your trying to scare me!"

['Conor]

i think Rebecca is my favourite character in Scream 4

i thought she was so funny!

"I know you care about your readers, all those little down-trottle f ucks that just need a light at the end of their tunnel so they don't jump off a bridge!"

[Patrick]

I wish Out Of Darkness was released in shops, like a fake autobiography from Sidney.

It would be such a good read.

['Conor]

no i wish the Stab movies were real ! i wanna see what happens after Chloe kills Rachel

[Patrick]

LOL!
Stab 5 sounds interesting lol with time travel.

Imagine if Scream 5 has time travel or some element of going back to the past, then again that was kind of done in Scream 3 when Sid went to the set of Stab 3.

Actually, didn't Stab 3 get cancelled?
So how did they make Stab 4 and onwards if Stab 3 got shut down?

Now I feel like Marnie for saying Stab over and over.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Patrick

LOL!
Stab 5 sounds interesting lol with time travel.

Imagine if Scream 5 has time travel or some element of going back to the past, then again that was kind of done in Scream 3 when Sid went to the set of Stab 3.

Actually, didn't Stab 3 get cancelled?
So how did they make Stab 4 and onwards if Stab 3 got shut down?

Now I feel like Marnie for saying Stab over and over.

The story was told to reflect the events that happened in Scream 3 as opposed to the 'Return to Woodsboro' storyline.
Based on a true story and whatnot. I suspect Gale wrote the book and it was adapted.

['Conor]

good point actually! someone said on one of the boards that Stab 7 is probably from the killers point of view instead of the victims.

['Conor]

i watched some of it with my cousin yesterday shes such a wimp, she was hiding behind the pillow when Sherrie & Trudie went to the front door, and she jumped out of her skin when the doorbell rang and when Ghostface killed Trudie

['Conor]

was watching Scream last night, love it so much ! Its so funny how clumsy the killer is in the 1st one

[Marc]

I think the clumsy one was Stu LOL

['Conor]

its so stupid when the tries to crawl through the little hole in the van after Sidney

[Marc]

Originally Posted by 'Conor

its so stupid when the tries to crawl through the little hole in the van after Sidney

Hahaha true! He too big for dat. Silly boy

[Mac Hiavellian]

I said a while back I was writing a Scream 4 review for a friend's blog but had trouble posting it. One or two people said they might read it so here it is anyhow if anyone's interested...

This One's A Screamer! A Review of "Scream 4"

What’s your favourite scary movie? Is it Halloween? You know, the one with the guy with the white mask who just sort of walks around and stalks the baby-sitters? Or is it A Nightmare On Elm Street? The one where the guy had knives for fingers? Or, is it Scream? The definitive postmodern horror where the characters were very much self-aware they were in a movie? Whatever the case, its undeniable Scream influenced a number of less favourable slasher movies and now, almost fifteen years after the original, Scream 4 has finally arrived to seemingly mixed reviews. If you have not yet seen this movie you may be wondering; is it as sharp and cutting as its predecessors? Or, is it simply yet another dumb movie and a painful reminder of the rotting state of the contemporary horror genre?

The appeal of the original Scream movies is they’re not your typical scary movies wherein a silent, unstoppable superhuman killer meaninglessly slays dumb, shallow, oversexed, intoxicated teenagers portrayed by unknown actors. Written by The Vampire Diaries Executive producer, Kevin Williamson, and directed by A Nightmare on Elm Street creator and proclaimed ‘master of suspense’, Wes Craven, 1996’s Scream completely deconstructed the clichés of the slasher subgenre, mercilessly satirizing it, and yet cunningly conforming to a few of its conventions. Scream is set in a world not dissimilar to our own with recognisable existing horror movies, and so when a slick killer, known as Ghostface, starts slicing and dicing the students of Woodsboro High, the characters use their preconceived knowledge of these horror movies in order to survive their ordeal. The casting of such high profile actors as Drew Barrymore and Henry Winkler, and rising stars Neve Campbell, Courtney Cox, David Arquette, Jamie Kennedy, Rose McGowan, Mathew Lillard, Skeet Ulrich and Liev Schreiber, stamped Scream with a difference to the slew of flagging horror movies from the late 1980s to the mid 1990s. One moment it would have you laughing at the subtle in-jokes, the next you would be on the edge of your seat with terror. Then there’s Ghostface, himself an amalgamation of prior iconic horror movie antagonists. He fashions a terrifying mask similarly to Leatherface, Michael Myers and Jason Vorhees of their respective Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Halloween and Friday the 13th franchises, yet unlike them he is not mute. Voiced eerily to perfection by Roger L. Jackson, Ghostface projects as much charismatic flare as A Nightmare on Elm Street’s Freddy Krueger, when he torments his victims with life-or-death scary movie trivia questions via the phone. The changing of identities underneath the mask in each subsequent film is what also differentiates Ghostface from all the rest. In each film it’s a different person or people utilising the mask to conceal their identity, so each Scream movie entices an air of mystery, compelling audiences to guess who are the perpetrators? And who are the victims? Craven and Williamson returned with the 1997 follow-up Scream 2, which successfully upped the ante with more scares, more laughs, more movie references and more big name stars. Whereas 2000’s Scream 3, also directed by Craven, but this time penned by Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen scribe Ehren Kruger, became so painfully tongue-in-cheek with in-jokes and contained less horror movie references that it appeared to become what the series initially set out to stab at, almost just another ordinary horror movie.

So, over a decade has passed and Craven is reunited with Williamson providing most of the script, and Ehren Kruger for additional rewrites, to unearth the Scream series in a bid, like the original, to resuscitate the decaying horror genre. But what’s the focus this time? Scream already cut through the horror movie, Scream 2 – the horror sequel, and Scream 3 was the generic trilogy. This time around, in the most original idea since, well – the original, Scream 4 hacks away at Hollywood’s recent trend of remakes. The stylized title 'SCRE4M' is an evident statement that by substituting the ‘4’ in place of the ‘A’ this film satirizes the remake but is in fact a genuine continuation from the previous three films. Also up for slaughtering is the ‘torture porn’ subgenre the industry has become accustomed to with the Saw franchise, which compensates genuine suspense with tactless gore. And whereas the original movie incorporated the telephone as a new age weapon, Scream 4 explores the dangers of social network messaging, mobile phone technology and internet videos. Surely, with its attention transfixed on the remake and, in this case, a similar story to the first Scream movie, there’s an expected danger that, like Scream 3, Scream 4’s self-referential satire could collapse the franchise and bury it for good? Not so. Scream 4 now overshadows Scream 3 as the funniest entry. However, the humour comes instead from the characters focus on one another or generally the conventions of the scary movie, akin to the original, whilst the homages to the first film are actually cleverly replicated at various points – but with a difference. A direct example sees one teen girl attempting to crawl away from the new Ghostface killer in her garage. If you’ve seen 1996’s Scream you’ll remember that Rose McGowan’s character, Tatum Riley, is in a similar situation and suffers a gruesome fate when she becomes stuck in a dog door embedded in to the garage door and thus leaving her neck to crush as she rises, colliding with the roof of the garage. This time, the garage door is already open, yet the killer closes it, crushing on to the new girl’s spine. The result is, whilst the first film challenges your expectations of the standard horror film, the fourth intricately challenges your expectations of how it’ll execute similar scenarios to the first Scream. The self-referencing only adds to the suspense rather than the humour. This might be effective viewing for Scream fans, and can still serve as enthralling to newer audiences, however part of Scream 4’s charm is inwardly looking back on the suspense of the previous movies. Thus it is more aimed at the fans of the earlier films.

Living up to the standards of the original trilogy, and to mirror characters from the first movie, Scream 4 introduces a fresh array of established stars and new talents – as more lambs to the slaughter. The intended new star of the franchise is portrayed by Emma Roberts, daughter of Eric Roberts, and niece of Julia Roberts. Her character – Jill Roberts – is the young cousin of former Scream tortured protagonist Sidney Prescott, portrayed once more by Neve Campbell. Also returning are real-life estranged couple Courtney Cox and David Arquette in their respective roles as ambitious journalist Gale Weathers and goofy Deputy Dwight ‘Dewey’ Riley. Accompanying Roberts and the series’ regulars as a handful of potential Ghostface suspects and victims are Heroes star Hayden Panettiere, Signs actor and brother of Macaulay Culkin, Rory Culkin, Saw II’s Erik Knudsen, Grindhouse’s Marley Shelton, Battlestar Gallactica’s Mary McDonnell, Community’s Alison Brie, The O.C.’s Adam Brody, Anthony Anderson of Scary Movie 3 and Scary Movie 4, and up-and-coming stars Nico Tortorella and Marielle Jaffe. And if that wasn’t enough, expect some painfully humorous and shockingly terrifying guest appearances from Veronica Mars star Kristen Bell, True Blood and X-Men actress Anna Paquin, Pretty Little Liars’ Lucy Hale, 90210’s Shanae Grimes, Friday Night Lights’ Aimee Teegarden, and Britt Robertson of Dan in Real Life. Scream 4 certainly sports an all-star cast to generate enough buzz to match the earlier Scream movies, however a number of these talents sadly fall underused, merely sacrificed to Ghostface just as they arouse suspicion. As every Scream movie starts with the suspenseful murder of a high profile character or actor we won’t spoil who snuffs it first – or how. All that needs to be said is it effectively relieves you of your anxious laughing with a few hilarious moments which bare similarities to the movie-within-a-movie setup of Scream 2, before mercilessly offing some defenceless young characters in as tragic an ordeal as the first Scream did to Drew Barrymore. And then there’s the identity of the killer and the final scenes which is a genius cynical statement about Hollywood’s reliability on remakes and the expectations of the passing of the baton between this series’ surviving trio and the array of new characters. With so many stars appearing in Scream 4 there’s no obvious guarantee which one is the prime suspect in contrast to Scream 2’s Laurie Metcalf. And with Campbell’s role significantly not as reduced as it was in Scream 3, the big reveal and backstory don’t appear as thinly stretched and inconceivable. Thus the final act of Scream 4 is as finely executed as the first Scream.

With the focus primarily being on recapturing the story and essence of the first Scream with the inclusion of a larger, newer cast, does the plot develop from where Scream 3 left off? Or, despite its different take on familiar situations, is Scream 4 simply retracing old ground and setting up further instalments for the newer characters? Rest assured, with the long-awaited return of Sidney, Gale and Dewey the plot expands on their roles since we last saw them a decade earlier. Scream 3 finished with Gale and Dewey reuniting as a couple and becoming engaged, having seen their romance initiate in Scream, and blossom in Scream 2 before an amicable break-up prior to the third film due in part to Gale’s burning ambition to become a successful Hollywood reporter. This time around, it’s Dewey who’s career has advanced as he has become Sheriff of Woodsboro since settling down to married life, whereas Gale is utterly bored and dissatisfied with her marriage and her life. With the couple’s relationship strained further with the presence of flirty Deputy Judy Hicks (Shelton) working alongside Dewey, and Gale’s burning ambition to revitalise her ‘tarnished brand’ with the assistance of high school movie geeks Charlie and Robbie (Knudsen and Culkin), Dewey and Gale effectively spend less time with one another and more time integrating with the newer characters. And then there’s Sidney who was convinced the nightmares were at last behind her after Scream 3, that she literally left the door open - a big deal, given the past traumas she’d endured. After discovering her mother’s raped and mutilated body; wrongfully accusing her mother’s lover of the deed; having a book published about said murder; witnessing her high school friends slain around her; being pressurised in to losing her virginity to a psychopath; accepting her mother was adulterous; having another book published in addition to a movie being made about her prior ordeals; the murders of her college friends; trust issues with her college sweetheart and his subsequent death; and the mental torture from sadistic Tarantino fan, Mickey (Timothy Olyphant), is it any wonder that by film 3 she was living as a recluse, in isolation, adopting an alias and working as a phone operator for women’s crisis counselling? Well, as implied at the end of Scream 3, Sidney has overcome her trepidations and has reinvented herself as a confident survivor by publishing a self-help book titled ‘Out of Darkness’. Coincidentally, or a deliberate PR stunt by her publisher, Rebecca Walters (Brie), the last stop of Sid’s book tour is at her home town of Woodsboro on the anniversary of the initial murders where she stays with her young cousin Jill (Roberts) and maternal aunt Kate (McDonnell). By directly drawing Sidney in to Jill’s world it makes Jill all the more relatable and likeable as a new intended franchise carrier.

So moving on, who’s out to get Jill and Sidney? Could it be Jill’s creepy ex-boyfriend Trevor (Tortorella) who’s fascinatingly similar to Skeet Ulrich’s killer Billy Loomis of the first movie? Could it be either – or even both – of the new film geeks in contrast to Jamie Kennedy’s original geek Randy Meeks? What of Jill’s best friends Kirby (Panettiere) and/or Olivia (Jaffe) as a difference to Rose McGowan’s Tatum character? Or Deputy Hicks who fascinates over Dewey, dislikes Gale and went to Woodsboro High with Sidney? Or the two buddy cops with distinct TV and film knowledge, Hoss and Perkins (Brody and Perkins)? The suspects and victims are plenty meaning you can expect yet more suspense and humour, but also in light of the recent torture porn phase, more gore! The death scenes are not as elaborate or confusing as say the Saw franchise, rather in keeping with the Scream series, they’re pretty basic stabbing assaults – only with a wickedly gory humour at times.

All in all, Scream 4 is a highly entertaining slasher movie certainly worthier than the recent spew of remakes and torture porn it satirizes. Craven and Williamson expand on the roles of the three primary survivors of the original trilogy and successfully correlate their stories with a larger, newer generation for Ghostface to pick off making Scream 4 both a starting ground for newer audiences and more so a direct continuation of the series for Scream fans. The multitalented recognisable cast are fresh and welcome additions which embody the exact cutting edge idealism the first two Scream movies evoked. Additionally, whilst their celebrity status is on a par this means no star was evidently picked to portray the opening scene victims or the killer. This combined with an original story heavily based on the original movie, yet with unexpected plot twists and comprising new media technology furthermore rejuvenates the Scream franchise and somewhat restores faith in the horror genre. Let’s hope if the rumoured Scream 5 and Scream 6 happen the series will continue to be imaginative, scary, funny and clever. Akin to the innovative original movie, almost fifteen years earlier, “It all began with a scream over 9-1-1 and ended in a bloodbath that has rocked the town of Woodsboro,” - and its audiences alike.

['Conor]

the actual effort of reading all of that -_-

[Mac Hiavellian]

Originally Posted by 'Conor

the actual effort of reading all of that -_-

Lol, no one actually has to. Thought you might though seeing as you're one of the bigger Scream fans round here. Oh well