[RileyH]

Originally Posted by Epic.

Saskia technically could be seen as an encourager of bullying when she laughed as Maxwell flung water at Kemal but that's not nearly as bad as the stuff that went on for a month in CBB18. It's not even close.

She was telling him to stop

[Epic.]

Originally Posted by RileyH

She was telling him to stop

No, you're referring to when Maxwell tried to grab Kemal shortly after. She was giggling when he flung the water and had a DR the next day that she was satisfied Maxwell did it.

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by Epic.

No, you're referring to when Maxwell tried to grab Kemal shortly after. She was giggling when he flung the water and had a DR the next day that she was satisfied Maxwell did it.

I don't remember this

[Jodie.]

Originally Posted by Epic.

Saskia technically could be seen as an encourager of bullying when she laughed as Maxwell flung water at Kemal but that's not nearly as bad as the stuff that went on for a month in CBB18. It's not even close.

That’s what I was referring to, and yes it wasn’t as bad as some of the things in CBB18 but RileyH hunny why would you say “THIS!” about Epic talking about how bad invading personal space was when Saskia laughed at it hunny explain that you silly cow!

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by Jordi.

That’s what I was referring to, and yes it wasn’t as bad as some of the things in CBB18 but RileyH hunny why would you say “THIS!” about Epic talking about how bad invading personal space was when Saskia laughed at it hunny explain that you silly cow!

Because it was one incident that Saskia was hardly a part of and had nothing to do with her

[Epic.]

Well watch it back then if you don't believe me because I watched that HL show not too long ago. (BB6 Week 5<3). I'm not denying the appeal there is in Saskia. She definitely has her perks but this happened if I recall correctly.

[Eddie.]

Saskia is a misunderstood kween, one of the few things RileyH and I share in common.

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by Eddie.

Saskia is a misunderstood kween, one of the few things RileyH and I share in common.

yass

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by Epic.

Well watch it back then if you don't believe me

[Ross.]

Does Jersey stan the Saira Khan show

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by Ross.

Does Jersey stan the Saira Khan show

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

eh I'm not really liking Saira, she is kind of a drama queen. And the fact she called Heavy D aggressive.. It's the TONE of voice, not the volume, and Heavy D isn't a mean/aggressive person at all. She was for sure the aggressive one, definitely not Heavy D in that conversation, maybe Bear as well though.

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[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Ross.

Does Jersey stan the Saira Khan show

I don't mind her. I find her entertaining/funny/likable at times and annoying at times, kinda like a whole bunch of this cast.

[Epic.]

Saira; an unhinged scream cast at the wrong point in time

[Epic.]

'AT LEAST SOMEONE GOT WET TONIGHT. and it wasn't saskia '

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by Epic.

'AT LEAST SOMEONE GOT WET TONIGHT. and it wasn't saskia '

So immature

[Epic.]

Originally Posted by RileyH

So immature

In what ****ing way is that remotely immature?

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Epic.

'AT LEAST SOMEONE GOT WET TONIGHT. and it wasn't saskia '

Iconique

[Epic.]

Well...

[RileyH]

[RileyH]

I can't remember what but wasn't she eating something off him?

definitely not what it looks like

[Daniel.]

Maxwell is hot

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

Maxwell is hot

He had a nice tongue

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Epic.

That was ****ing disgusting invading a defenseless 65 year old's personal space like that after he repeatedly tells the three twats to piss off and it being treated like some sort of 'lol we're horny' joke is sickening.

Ok I can understand not liking what went down and taking James' side but... disgusting and sickening???

'invading a defenseless 65 year old's personal space like that' That's simply an exaggeration IMO. You mean SINGING next to him in the kitchen for a little bit and occasionally gently touching him on the shoulders or rubbing his head a few times?

Sure James doesn't have to want a joke like that aimed at him but that doesn't make what they did ABHORRENT lol. They did nothing inappropriate or unacceptable. Yes they were having a laugh at James' expense but they weren't even picking on him as in saying anything negative or bullying him or something like that. It was all in good fun and a pretty funny situation.

A situation I can kinda compare to with people you like so you might see it is in BB18 when the thorn cottage(?) people kept messing with Kieran with pillows while he was trying to sleep even after he'd been telling them to stop. Kieran had every right to get mad just like James in this situation but does that make them 'disgusting, sickening bullies' for not stopping like Kieran wanted? NO.

[Epic.]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

Ok I can understand not liking what went down and taking James' side but... disgusting and sickening???

'invading a defenseless 65 year old's personal space like that' That's simply an exaggeration IMO. You mean SINGING next to him in the kitchen for a little bit and occasionally gently touching him on the shoulders or rubbing his head a few times?

How would you feel if people started screaming offkey in your ear to you for no reason while you tried going about your regular day? And they weren't 'gently touching him'. It was pelvic thrusting against him in a condescendingly immature manner. And 'rubbing his head a few times' looks way worse after the person is trying their absolute hardest to not make any kind of contact with you. It's absolutely bullying.

Sure James doesn't have to want a joke like that aimed at him but that doesn't make what they did ABHORRENT lol. They did nothing inappropriate or unacceptable. Yes they were having a laugh at James' expense but they weren't even picking on him as in saying anything negative or bullying him or something like that. It was all in good fun and a pretty funny situation.

'The more you let it upset you the more it'll wind you up!! " ~lewis. It was picking on him because they were trying to annoy him as best they could for no reason. Just because you're not 'saying anything negative' doesn't mean it's not bullying. The actual definition:

bully1
ˈbʊli/Submit
noun
1.
a person who uses strength or influence to harm or intimidate those who are weaker.

A situation I can kinda compare to with people you like so you might see it is in BB18 when the thorn cottage(?) people kept messing with Kieran with pillows while he was trying to sleep even after he'd been telling them to stop. Kieran had every right to get mad just like James in this situation but does that make them 'disgusting, sickening bullies' for not stopping like Kieran wanted? NO.

That's completely different. Throwing pillows at someone isn't nearly as bad as making snide faux sexual advances and pretending you're horny and completely demeaning the person as best you can. Isabelle or Raph for example weren't doing any kind of demeaning or mistreating at all since all they really did was fling pillows, so it's a completely different set of circumstances to this unbelievable abuse. And also there's the context with the fact they've known Kieran for over a month now so probably think it's okay to do something like that, even if it's possibly inappropriate. It's completely different with James because he barely knows these people and does nothing to warrant this. It's also ganging up on someone, like when he desperately tried to shove Heavy and Bear's mucky fingers out of his face but was failing. It is bullying because James never solicited any reason for it to happen and could do absolutely nothing to stop it. Filth.

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Epic.

How would you feel if people started screaming offkey in your ear to you for no reason while you tried going about your regular day? And they weren't 'gently touching him'. It was pelvic thrusting against him in a condescendingly immature manner. And 'rubbing his head a few times' looks way worse after the person is trying their absolute hardest to not make any kind of contact with you. It's absolutely bullying.

'The more you let it upset you the more it'll wind you up!! " ~lewis. It was picking on him because they were trying to annoy him as best they could for no reason. Just because you're not 'saying anything negative' doesn't mean it's not bullying. The actual definition:

That's completely different. Throwing pillows at someone isn't nearly as bad as making snide faux sexual advances and pretending you're horny and completely demeaning the person as best you can. Isabelle or Raph for example weren't doing any kind of demeaning or mistreating at all since all they really did was fling pillows, so it's a completely different set of circumstances to this unbelievable abuse. And also there's the context with the fact they've known Kieran for over a month now so probably think it's okay to do something like that, even if it's possibly inappropriate. It's completely different with James because he barely knows these people and does nothing to warrant this. It's also ganging up on someone, like when he desperately tried to shove Heavy and Bear's mucky fingers out of his face but was failing. It is bullying because James never solicited any reason for it to happen and could do absolutely nothing to stop it. Filth.

I have to disagree almost entirely with how inappropriate / wrong it was but I do agree they don't know him well enough to be joking with him like that so that does play a factor for sure. Of course they should've just stopped if they were nice and respected James but still it's not disgusting/sickening behavior

- and I knew the situations were different but they are still comparable except again I agree that how well / how long they know each other does make a difference.