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It's so sad all this is coming out too late.

I think CPS were using her to make a point and it's hideous.
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I think CPS were using her to make a point and it's hideous.
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the CPS doesn't make an example of anyone. They make a judgment based on defined metrics if there is a strong likelihood of conviction. We must remember that they don't decide the innocence or guilt of anyone.

Attempting to blame the CPS is ridiculous
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Just read now that Caroline hanged herself. Feel sick. Xx
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Just read now that Caroline hanged herself. Feel sick. Xx
That dispels the "cry for help" angle then.
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That dispels the "cry for help" angle then.
yes indeed, how horrible and to properly hang yourself with no pain you need a drop equal to your body weight which i doubt she had in a flat so she would have had a very nasty end.
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the CPS doesn't make an example of anyone. They make a judgment based on defined metrics if there is a strong likelihood of conviction. We must remember that they don't decide the innocence or guilt of anyone.

Attempting to blame the CPS is ridiculous
I read in one report that the CPS initially were NOT going to charge and only reversed that position after being pressed by the Police.

The CPS have so far refused to comment merely suggested there was "more evidence" and the case was "in the public interest". Sadly we will never know now and Caroline will never get her name cleared if there really were no charges to answer,
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This story has had a strange effect on me. I wasn't a rabid Caroline fan, didn't really know her too much before she won Strictly, although she became my favourite on that show. Everyone has a right to privacy and the fact that the tabloids did what they do best, splitting open people's lives when they are their most vulnerable for the entertainment of others, is despicable. I hope that something is done about both the press and the mindless trolls on the web. How sad that such a beautiful, accomplished woman can be so wounded that she takes her own life is just beyond comprehension.
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yes indeed, how horrible and to properly hang yourself with no pain you need a drop equal to your body weight which i doubt she had in a flat so she would have had a very nasty end.
That's how my best friend committed suicide also. I wish I hadn't found out that was how she did it, I didn't want to know and had managed to avoid finding out for a bit but overheard someone say it. It's hard to get that mental image out of your head
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Millie Bobby Brown is not and Billy Eilish wasn't when he was heavily texting her. I'd draw the line at making outright accusations with no evidence BUT I think we (society) might want to be careful... We don't want to side step into a territory where we're afraid to call out questionable behaviour because we're too scared to do so.

It is questionable for a man in his 30's to be extensively messaging teenage girls. It doesn't mean he's "a paedo" but it also doesn't mean people should be afraid to point out that they think it's inappropriate.
It's strange, but he might be an immature person who can build a better friendship with teens because he mentally might behave like a teenager.
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...hanging was also how the person I knew, took their own life...it’s sadly something that we’re hearing more and more of as well...
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It was a rapist by a rph and he did it more than once and when asked to elaborate he had nothing, he literally called him a rapist because he didn't like him.
I had a feeling that it came from Rph, but I couldn't be 100% confident on what he exactly called him, thanks for clarifying though Amy Jade as my memory has gone to **** over that series.

It was a disgusting comment from him either way imo, nobody on TV deserves baseless accusations like that.
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...even though those who were closest to her may have been totally aware of her emotional fragility...it’s sadly not always possible to prevent...
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..it’s sadly not always applicable to lay blame either....sometimes lives and events unfold in a way that’s overwhelming to an already fragile emotional and mental health state and the layers become too much...and it’s just terribly, terribly sad...
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That's terrible.

Like Niamh said she clearly wasn't crying for help.

I just wish that we could undo all of those mock/abuse threads on here, the abuse that she received on Social Media, and the Newspapers treating it like it was a Comedy despite ruining someone else's life in the process.

Maybe she would still be alive. Especially if people on Social Media and the Newspapers had've behaved differently.
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This story has had a strange effect on me. I wasn't a rabid Caroline fan, didn't really know her too much before she won Strictly, although she became my favourite on that show. Everyone has a right to privacy and the fact that the tabloids did what they do best, splitting open people's lives when they are their most vulnerable for the entertainment of others, is despicable. I hope that something is done about both the press and the mindless trolls on the web. How sad that such a beautiful, accomplished woman can be so wounded that she takes her own life is just beyond comprehension.
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..it’s sadly not always applicable to lay blame either....sometimes lives and events unfold in a way that’s overwhelming to an already fragile emotional and mental health state and the layers become too much...and it’s just terribly, terribly sad...
Putting the blame on others doesn't change things , what about other people in the media who have been harassed & hounded. Some who haven't even done anything wrong except for just existing.

Is it going to take a suicide everytime for people to feel sympathy or that treatment went too far ? .
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That's terrible.

Like Niamh said she clearly wasn't crying for help.

I just wish that we could undo all of those mock/abuse threads on here, the abuse that she received on Social Media, and the Newspapers treating it like it was a Comedy despite ruining someone else's life in the process.

Maybe she would still be alive. Especially if people on Social Media and the Newspapers had've behaved differently.
No Mock , its already been stated it was fully related to the attack and the trial, she feared losing all she had built up, she did not want to face the trial and probably prosecution, so she took her life. She had a great relationship with the media and was treated no differently than any other celeb.
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Putting the blame on others doesn't change things , what about other people in the media who have been harassed & hounded. Some who haven't even done anything wrong except for just existing.

Is it going to take a suicide everytime for people to feel sympathy or that treatment went too far ? .
But apparently feeling sympathy is "virtue signalling" according to some
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No Mock , its already been stated it was fully related to the attack and the trial, she feared losing all she had built up, she did not want to face the trial and probably prosecution, so she took her life. She had a great relationship with the media and was treated no differently than any other celeb.
Yeah , you go and conveniently ignore the evidence of hounding by the press
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