[Zizu]

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta

the infection numbers dont go down at weekends, and these come from friday anyway

To be fair the numbers DO drop substantially each Sat / Sun/ Mon then Tuesday catches up

It’s a technical hitch not the infections slowing down each weekend


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta

So the infection rate is settling down again .... panic over

Declaring “panics over” after 3 days of record numbers is one take on it I guess.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

Declaring “panics over” after 3 days of record numbers is one take on it I guess.

we had 1 day with a big jump in infections, i was expecting it to rise by even more each subsequent day and it hasn't, its settling, its not showing any signs of exponential growth. Why can't people be happy when things appear like they aren't as bad as people were predicting. I think people want a ****ing disaster scenario, i really do

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta

we had 1 day with a big jump in infections, i was expecting it to rise by even more each subsequent day and it hasn't, its settling, its not showing any signs of exponential growth. Why can't people be happy when things appear like they aren't as bad as people were predicting. I think people want a ****ing disaster scenario, i really do

It’s not about “wanting” a disaster scenario, but it is sensible to be prepared for bad scenarios rather than trying to get by on raw optimism.

Maybe it is settling, I’m not saying that I hope you’re wrong, I’m saying that drawing that conclusion from a couple of days worth of data is dumb. We don’t know anything from these numbers, no conclusions can be drawn from them at all, until we have at least a week+ (10 days would probably be a decent measure) to go on.

Believing that a couple of days showing less increase is conclusive of anything tends to just result in people getting an unpleasant shock when there’s a sudden jump later and it turns out that there’s been a flaw in reporting mechanisms or somewhere else.

For example…

We’ve been told repeatedly that some areas have run out of PCR tests. If people (with mild symptoms) aren’t being tested and recover fine after a few days, then they were never added to the numbers.

The important figures - as ever - are hospitalisations and deaths. We’re not going to have an accurate picture on those for at least another week or two.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta

So the infection rate is settling down again .... panic over

90,000 on Saturday suggests that Tuesday’s will be well over 100,000 !!


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Zizu

90,000 on Saturday suggests that Tuesday’s will be well over 100,000 !!


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I wasn’t far off


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[Nicky91]

Netherlands: hard lockdown at least until January 14th

everything non-essential must close, all schools must close, theatres and cinema's must close


takeaways remain possible but still not to make it a daytrip just get the foods or drinks you want and leave the store as soon as possible again



outdoors maximum of 2 people together, indoors also maximum of 2 visitors received

only at christmas exception of maximum of 4 people indoors

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Netherlands: hard lockdown at least until January 14th

everything non-essential must close, all schools must close, theatres and cinema's must close


takeaways remain possible but still not to make it a daytrip just get the foods or drinks you want and leave the store as soon as possible again



outdoors maximum of 2 people together, indoors also maximum of 2 visitors received

only at christmas exception of maximum of 4 people indoors

Ouch

[arista]

[Everything non-essential must close, all schools must close,
theatres and cinema's must close]

Yes Nicky
Good move in the Netherlands
Covid is Trouble.

[Nicky91]

we here see that it is urgent when RIVM's boss Jaap van Dissel will also be there in tonight's press conference (he hasn't done this all the way since early 2020)

[MTVN]

Some anti-vaxxers in Bristol today holding signs saying 'leave our kids alone' and had what looked like an 8 or 9 year old speaking into a megaphone about 'putting poison into our bodies' which is so messed up

I'm out having a pint now and last Saturday before Christmas it should be heaving but empty tables all around, kitchen closed because everyone kept cancelling their bookings

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Cousin Eddie

Some anti-vaxxers in Bristol today holding signs saying 'leave our kids alone' and had what looked like an 8 or 9 year old speaking into a megaphone about 'putting poison into our bodies' which is so messed up

I'm out having a pint now and last Saturday before Christmas it should be heaving but empty tables all around, kitchen closed because everyone kept cancelling their bookings

A stealth lockdown with zero support

[MTVN]

Infection rates have peaked!

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cousin Eddie

Infection rates have peaked!

Not even close to peaking imho


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[Crimson Dynamo]

4 lads in my row at footy all sharing a vape

#weenic#profwhitty#nhsoverwhelmed

[user104658]

For my two cents, I think ever hitting 1 million cases a day is extremely unlikely but over 250k/day certainly possible.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

For my two cents, I think ever hitting 1 million cases a day is extremely unlikely but over 250k/day certainly possible.

Sadly I agree ..


Just have to hope it is indeed milder and the vast majority don’t need hospital treatment or we are completely fecked


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[bots]

if we remember back to when we first re-opened the government at the time said don't be surprised if we hit 100k infections, so they were quite happy to deal with that number of infections per day and have restrictions completely removed. Yes, infections may still rise but its not exponential growth, that means hospitals have more time to deal with things.

I accept the point that the pcr testing could be way out, but that is true all the time surely

[user104658]

Oh I think it could be fairly safely assumed that actual daily positive cases are (always) at least 2x the number of positive tests. Maybe more like 3x. That’s really always been the case, many mild cases and the majority of asymptomatic cases aren’t in the figures.

[Zizu]

Pity Omicron didn’t come in Jan rather than bladdy December


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[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[Johnson and his ministers
ignore Scientists' Pleas for even tougher
Covid restrictions before Christmas
as yesterday's cases
top 90,000 - but 'could impose crackdown as soon as Boxing Day']

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Christmas.html


This does not sound right
Can not start this on a Holiday day.

[arista]

[Javid refuses to deny plans for more restrictions
as he accuses anti-vaxxers of having 'damaging impact']


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...mpact-12499691