[Omah]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz29fjok5Rm

OUTRAGED Royal Marines have wiped out all traces of sex predator Jimmy Savile from their world-famous commando base.

Savile had a long-standing affiliation with the Marines and was awarded the highly-coveted Green Beret in 1966.

He was even buried with the illustrious commando cap – awarded to him after a gruelling 30-mile march across Dartmoor with heavy kit – when he died last October aged 84.

But as the Savile sex storm intensifies, Commando officials have destroyed all remnants of the TV star at their training centre at Lympstone, near Exmouth, Devon.

Lympstone chiefs have stripped the camp’s Savile Room of any connection with the honorary marine, removing a framed photograph of Savile and the room’s nameplate.

Bosses are now holding talks to rename the room – often used for family functions – and eradicate four decades of the vile celebrity.

The serial paedophile DJ proudly maintained links with the corps, often attending their parades and ceremonies right up until his death.

A Royal Marines spokesman said the historic corps was sensitive to public feeling and had responded as the catalogue of horrifying sex attacks emerged.

He said: “The honorary green lid dies with the man so his honorary award doesn’t exist. It died when he did.

“The renaming of the function suite called the Savile Room is now under consideration and the framed photograph of Savile has recently been removed.

“The room is used for family functions and we are trying to listen to, and be sensitive to, the public and if taking the picture down does that, then we should absolutely do it.”

Savile was awarded the green beret after he his brother Vince, then a serving officer with the Royal Navy, completed an exhausting 30-mile speed march in eight hours.

Among Savile’s possessions auctioned for charity after he died were his Royal Marines flying suit and a bottle of 15-year-old single Highland malt from the Officers Mess at the Marines boot camp.

Savile’s coffin was even carried by Royal Marine pallbearers.

Good

[arista]

[Glenn.]

April Jones seems to have been forgotten because of all this ****. Is a sex predator more important than the missing girl?

[Kizzy]

What a horrible thing to say, of course she hasn't.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by kizzy

What a horrible thing to say, of course she hasn't.

I haven't seen ONE news report since all this bollocks about Saville.

[Omah]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz29hsEwf4H

A JIMMY Savile victim last night revealed he abused her from age 11 in Stoke Mandeville hospital’s chapel — during MASSES.

The BBC beast would prey on Samantha Brown in a room behind the congregation — brazenly leaving the door open so he could still watch the priest.

Samantha, now a mum of three, is convinced the fear he might have been spotted gave the Jim’ll Fix it star an extra thrill.

She said: “He thought he was God. He did it every time he was in there — more than 20 times over three or four years until I was 15.”

Samantha — a Catholic like Savile — lived near the Buckinghamshire hospital where he was famously a charity volunteer. Her family worshipped at the chapel and she was given the honour of taking charge of the collection plate during Mass. It meant going to the back to fetch it.

Married Samantha, 45, said: “Savile used to stand in the separate little room during Mass — and I had to go in there to get the offering plate while the service was going on. It was horrible. I used to hate it.”

She told how her heart sank whenever she spotted a £20 note left on the plate — Savile’s donation. Samantha said: “It was a lot of money in those days.

“I knew what was going to happen before I walked through the door. I just tried to get in and out as quickly as possible.”

She said the paedo would grope her “everywhere”. Samantha — who still lives in the area — recalled: “It was so blatant it made you even more afraid to say anything.

“I thought it was my fault. Eventually I stopped going to church because of him.” She kept her hell a secret for decades — but is now among an army of women to come forward exposing the late Top Of The Pops DJ’s depravity.

Samantha said: “It was only after everything started to come out that I could tell for the first time.

“It completely destroyed my trust in human relationships.”

[Omah]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/me...s-8217389.html

A documentary exposing the abuse and sexual exploitation of under-age models was withdrawn from the BBC's schedule amid heightened sensitivities over the Jimmy Savile affair.

The Storyville film, Girl Model, which was due to be shown on BBC2 on Wednesday night, followed a 13-year-old girl on her journey from Siberia to Tokyo, where she had been promised a career as a model.

The documentary was described as an unflinching exposé of the shocking supply of ever-younger girls to the Japanese modelling industry.

It was previously screened on BBC4 in June, but the corporation said it had been dropped the from BBC2 schedule "in the light of sensitivities surrounding recent events".

The last-minute decision to cancel the film reflects an atmosphere of caution at the BBC following allegations that Savile lured under-age girls by promising them audience tickets for his shows and then assaulted them on BBC premises.

Wise

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20006049

The Metropolitan Police have launched a "formal criminal investigation" into alleged incidences of sexual abuse by the late Sir Jimmy Savile.

Scotland Yard said more than 400 lines of inquiry had been "assessed" and over 200 potential victims of the former BBC DJ and presenter had been identified.

Cdr Peter Spindler described the number of victims who have come forward as "staggering".

He added the sexual exploitation had occurred during the victims' childhood.

Scotland Yard said the investigation - dubbed Operation Yewtree - moved from an assessment to a criminal investigation after detectives established there are lines of inquiry involving "living people that require formal investigation".

Cdr Spindler said the response from the public had been "astounding".

He added: "We are dealing with alleged abuse on an unprecedented scale. The profile of this operation has empowered a staggering number of victims to come forward to report the sexual exploitation which occurred during their childhood.

"I am pleased that victims feel confident enough to speak out about the abuse they suffered and would like to reassure the public that we take all these cases very seriously and they will be investigated with the utmost sensitivity."

It just gets worse .....

[Alf]

all those that knew and kept quiet should all go to prison

[Omah]

http://news.sky.com/story/999869/jim...l-investigaton

Peter Watt, head of the NSPCC's helpline, said: "It's now looking possible that Jimmy Savile was one the most prolific sex offenders the NSPCC has ever come across.

"We have received over 136 calls directly relating to allegations against him which we've passed to the police.

"We are also finding more and more people coming forward and reporting unrelated abuse after hearing the victims in this case speak out. Many are only just doing so after years of keeping it to themselves."

[Sticks]

Sorry but in English law at least a person is considered innocent unless proven guilty in a fair trial. Since Mr Saville is now dead, he can not be put on trial, so he can not be pronounced guilty in law of any of these alleged offences. If people who are alive are put on trial that is a different matter, but only limited to them, and not the late Mr Saville.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Sorry but in English law at least a person is considered innocent unless proven guilty in a fair trial. Since Mr Saville is now dead, he can not be put on trial, so he can not be pronounced guilty in law of any of these alleged offences. If people who are alive are put on trial that is a different matter, but only limited to them, and not the late Mr Saville.

Yeah, but everyone now and henceforward will know that Sleazy Savile was a serial child-abuser and not the saint that he made himself out to be, and which most of the gullible British public (and members of the Establishment and Royal Family) believed he was .....

History is being rewritten - Savile was never "innocent" - he was obviously born a devil incarnate with a prediliction for violating the "innocent" - having, presumably, gone to Hell, he can rot there while his life, and grave, are terminally trashed .....

[arista]

[Nedusa]

I bet all the Celebs who back in the day used to hang around with Savile are now quaking in their boots as it looks now like this is now a criminal investigation and as we know the press will keep digging away at this story until they find...... ???

[Omah]

His great niece reveals the scandal's most sickening twist yet - and how he bribed his sister to cover it up

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz29p4Yn5w0

Caroline Robinson recalls how she was sexually assaulted by Jimmy Savile TWICE

Her admission that even she, a family member, was a victim of his depravity is a chilling one. Caroline was molested twice by him: once when she was just 12 and again three years later.

But equally unsettling is her revelation that Savile bought the silence of close members of his family circle by bribing them with lavish gifts and money. Her grandmother Marjorie Marsden, Savile’s elder sister, knew he had abused Caroline, and, she believes, Marjorie was also well aware he was a prolific and predatory paedophile. But she refused to confront her famous brother because she knew that if Savile were brought to book, the comfortable lifestyle he provided for her would end.

Uncle Jimmy gave Marjorie everything she wanted,’ says Caroline. ‘She was interested in Egyptology, so he bought her a house on the Nile. When she divorced, he paid for the best lawyer. He paid for her to live in a smart BUPA care home near his flat in Roundhay Park in Leeds just before she died in 2006

‘She had private medical insurance and a cottage in Llandudno, courtesy of Jimmy; he bought her a caravan on the coast there. If Marjorie had blabbed, Jimmy would have had nothing. No fame, no money. In fact, he’d have been in jail. And Marjorie would have had nothing, too.

When Savile first assaulted Caroline, she was a shy, self-effacing 12-year-old. Sweet-faced and blonde, she had a pronounced stammer; even so, she was excited when her mother June, a barmaid, and father, Nick, a bus driver, announced that Uncle Jimmy would be making a rare visit to their modest council house in Seacroft, Leeds.

‘He came into our sitting room, wearing his usual shell-suit and vest, smoking a cigar. The smell of cigar smoke permeated him. He kissed my hand. It was his trademark greeting and I remember feeling ten feet tall.’

‘Jimmy patted his knee because he wanted me to sit there, which I did. He placed me very deliberately in the centre of his lap. ‘I was innocent, unaware of the facts of life, and I remember thinking, “There’s something hard in his trousers”.

‘I remember feeling his hands rubbing my back. It wasn’t an innocent stroke or brush of the hand — he was pressing his fingers into my back and down my spine until they reached my knickers.

‘Then he pushed them under the elastic and rested them on my buttocks.

‘The extraordinary thing is the room was full, but no one seemed to notice what he was doing. My grandma was sitting opposite us. She must have seen, but she didn’t intervene.

‘I knew it felt uncomfortable, wrong. I pulled away and said I wanted to go to the toilet. Then I went into my bedroom and burst into tears. I remember thinking: “I can’t tell Mum and Dad because they won’t believe Uncle Jimmy would do that.”

‘Later Grandmamma asked me why I’d been crying. I said: “Uncle Jimmy put his hand in my knickers.” She told me not to be silly. Then I said: “He touched my bottom,” and she said: “Jimmy doesn’t mean anything by it.” So she knew.

‘She said: “I’ll have a talk to Jimmy.” Not another word was said after that. She was the head of the household.’

It was not until another family party — this one at the Mansion Hotel in Leeds — that Caroline encountered her great uncle again: she was 15 and he had agreed to DJ for the evening.

Caroline felt repulsed, wary, but recalls: ‘I was there with my boyfriend Peter and I didn’t think Jimmy would be a threat.’

Next, Caroline remembers, the mood of the evening became darker. ‘Mum said to me: “Take some food to Uncle Jimmy,” and I resisted. I was trembling.’ Cajoled by her mother, she went.

She has a graphic recollection of the repulsive assault that followed.

‘I went up to the DJ’s booth and proffered the plate. Jimmy pushed me into a recess behind the booth. He cornered me; I was trapped. I can still summon up the smell of him; his cigars and a sweet, sickly girls’ perfume.

‘I remember it was noisy and he was whispering: “What can Uncle Jimmy do for you?” I said: “Get off me!”

I struggled but it just seemed to make him more excited. ‘You hear about people being actually raped who just go along with it, just so it will be over quicker. And that’s what I did. I stopped resisting. He was a strong man; wiry, fit. I was a schoolgirl of 15.

‘When it was over, I ran outside. I remember being sick. Then I went into the hotel toilets and scrubbed myself. I didn’t tell anyone; not Peter or my parents. Peter went home. I went home with Mum and Dad, and Jimmy just disappeared, as he always did. I remember lying in the bath and scrubbing myself. I felt I couldn’t get clean; I couldn’t get Jimmy’s smell off me.”’

If I could dig him up, I’d let the crows feed on him.’

Just .....

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Nah. still don't 'buy it'.

Perhaps the reason all these folk kept 'schtoom'.... was because their were PAID to keep schtoom.......... stranger things have happened in life. and it is SO VERY EASY to lay the blame on one party, having cashed the cheque, having banked the money: when the offending party is dead, making food for the worms and cannot defend themselves.


If those that were abused felt to bad about it: why keep their mouths shut unti the man died? Possibly: just possibly: becuase they were paid to keep their mouths shut, but Mr JS isn't here to prove that?


there's a little thought for you....................

Originally Posted by Omah

Who paid them?

Let's have proof of THAT allegation .....

Any link with tangible evidence will do .....

Originally Posted by Omah

His great niece reveals the scandal's most sickening twist yet - and how he bribed his sister to cover it up

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz29p4Yn5w0



Just .....

Patience is a virtue, I knew if folk waited long enough, there would be some admission of some alleged victims keeping their mouths shut because they accepted the price they paid.

Here, I provide you with the proof that you asked 400 odd post or so back.... ironic that you actually have provided the 'proof' yourself though.

A bribe doesn't work on it's own. It takes as least two to turn an 'offer' into a accepted bribe.

'Microscope' has provided very good reasoning for what may be far closer to the truth in all of this sordid saga.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Patience is a virtue, I knew if folk waited long enough, there would be some admission of some alleged victims keeping their mouths shut because they accepted the price they paid.

Here, I provide you with the proof that you asked 400 odd post or so back.... ironic that you actually have provided the 'proof' yourself though.

A bribe doesn't work on it's own. It takes as least two to turn an 'offer' into a accepted bribe.

'Microscope' has provided very good reasoning for what may be far closer to the truth in all of this sordid saga.

Just have the decency to accept that you were wrong, so very wrong .....

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Omah

Just have the decency to accept that you were wrong, so very wrong .....

Now I know you have a sense of humour and that pleases me - although this thread is not the place for your humour to shine through, given the seriousness of the topic.

I was the one pointing out a very obvious possibility: there may have been very good reason for them keeping their traps shut....because they benefitted from it then, and (in the case of this particular woman) - she wants to have her cake and eat it too....... and it seems that my hunch was spot on.

You asked for some link to this allegation of mine - I gave it to you, courtesy of your good self.

I have stated all along that whilst I felt 'something was remiss' about JS, that I did not believe it to be as it is being portrayed or to the level of abuse. My view remains that way.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

My view remains that way.

Entrenched .....

[Jake.]

[Nedusa]

Is there no end to this story, to what further depths of depravity are we going to be taken ?? I can't help thinking a lot of people must have been complicit in some of these activities as the sheer scale and number of victims is breathtaking . There must have been a few people in reasonably high positions of power who not only knew about Savile's activities but actually covered up large parts of it by paying off victims. Who knows perhaps some of these people actually facilitated some of these incidents.

That's where this story is heading and it could prove to be a potentially explosive
expose...!!!

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Is there no end to this story, to what further depths of depravity are we going to be taken ?? I can't help thinking a lot of people must have been complicit in some of these activities as the sheer scale and number of victims is breathtaking . There must have been a few people in reasonably high positions of power who not only knew about Savile's activities but actually covered up large parts of it by paying off victims. Who knows perhaps some of these people actually facilitated some of these incidents.

That's where this story is heading and it could prove to be a potentially explosive expose...!!!

Yeah, so far we've seen the tip of the iceberg .....

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20014945

A Devon paedophile who is believed to have abused up to 3,500 boys has died in prison, the Ministry of Justice (MoJ) has confirmed.

William Goad, 65, from Plymouth died of "natural causes" overnight at HMP Albany.

The MoJ said: "As with all deaths in custody, the independent Prisons and Probation Ombudsman will conduct an investigation."

Goad was jailed for life in 2004 for sexual offences over a 35 year period.

'Predatory' paedophile

Goad, who ran shops and market stalls, was jailed for 14 serious sex offences and two counts of indecent assault following a court case in 2004 in which he was described as a "voracious, calculating, predatory and violent homosexual paedophile".

Plymouth Crown Court was told he groomed his victims by offering them well-paid jobs in his shops and inviting them back to his home.

The court was told he once boasted of beating his own "record" of sexually abusing 142 boys in one year - a claim denied by the defendant.

Goad abused some of his victims three to four times a week for two to three years.

He was jailed for life, with a six-year minimum term, in 2004.

Not famous, not rich and not well-connected but, like Savile, he got away with child abuse for decades .....

So what kept 3,500 children quiet for years, if there was no money and no celebrity by association .....

[Omah]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...e-iceberg.html

The shocking revelations of Savile’s depraved behaviour have, to the relief of the Jersey abuse victims, refocused attention on Haut de la Garenne. In their view, it confirms their claims that the home was at the heart of a well-protected paedophile ring.

Allegations against Savile and other famous and powerful people were made during the 2008 inquiry. Earlier this week, the Telegraph revealed that another alleged abuser was the actor Wilfrid Brambell, the “dirty old man” of Steptoe and Son fame. One of two boys whom he abused in a back room at the Jersey Opera House in the Seventies was from Haut de la Garenne.

The States of Jersey Police have confirmed that an Haut de la Garenne resident had alleged abuse by Savile in the mid-Seventies during the 2008 inquiry, but said there had been insufficient evidence for an investigation to proceed. The authority has also confirmed that three more victims of Savile on Jersey have contacted them in recent days.

Carrie Modral, chair of the Jersey Care Leavers’ Association, a charity run by people who have spent time in care, says: “It’s good that the Savile scandal is making people think more about what happened here. But why have the States of Jersey only admitted it about Savile now? Because he’s dead and he can’t talk or bring down all the other big names. Their view would be that we, the survivors, keep going on about celebrities abusing kids at Haut de la Garenne, so OK, 'Here’s one, he’s dead and he can’t talk.’ But Savile was just the tip of the iceberg.”

Lenny Harper agrees: “Savile chose his victims with great care; vulnerable and often troubled youngsters many in care homes. If they complained they were labelled troublemakers, or brutally put down. We know from court cases and statements made to my team [during the 2008 inquiry] that children in Jersey care homes were 'loaned out’ to members of the yachting fraternity and other prominent citizens on the pretence of recreational trips but during which they were savagely abused and often raped.

“When these children complained they were beaten and locked in cellars [at Haut de la Garenne], which the Jersey authorities denied existed in 2008, but which can still be seen on YouTube footage. What chance did they have? This would have been the perfect hunting ground for Savile. The great and good of Jersey fawn over anyone with even loose connections to British royalty. Saville would have been a VIP to them and children would not have stood a dog’s chance of complaining about him. It would have been so easy for him.”

[Omah]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...d-the-BBC.html

The scandal of how Sir Jimmy Savile was able to abuse young girls for decades deepened last night after a Sunday Telegraph investigation implicated both former government ministers and executives at the BBC.

A Sunday Telegraph investigation today reveals:

* Edwina Currie appointed Savile to run a taskforce in charge of Broadmoor in the 1980s, where he is accused of sexually assaulting patients;

* the taskforce he presided over was given temporary powers to oversee the running of the hospital following a series of industrial disputes - despite the fact Savile, a disc jockey and television presenter, had no professional qualifications;

* a friend of Savile’s from his hometown in Leeds was then given the most senior job at Broadmoor;

* the BBC investigated a lurid sex scandal at Top of the Pops and Radio 1 in the early 1970s, but never made the report public;

* Savile was interviewed by the BBC as part of that inquiry but refused to cooperate, according to a senior source.

Savile, despite having no expertise in mental health, was given the job of chairman of the taskforce overseeing Broadmoor in 1988 after the hospital had been placed under direct control of the Thatcher government following a series of strikes.

Mrs Currie at the time was health minister with responsibility for the country’s high security hospitals under the auspices of Kenneth Clarke, the then-Health Secretary. Savile counted himself as a friend of Margaret Thatcher and reportedly stayed at Chequers on a number of occasions.

Savile had had a long association with Broadmoor, having been a volunteer worker there in the 1970s and 1980s with the unofficial title “honourary entertainments officer”. He had his own set of keys and living quarters on site.

Savile’s appointment to the taskforce is now subject to a Department of Health official inquiry but last night Mrs Currie said: “The Department of Health are digging out the papers from the archives and I just don’t know - I’m ransacking my own notes to try to work out what happened, so I am not denying it, it is just very hard to tell.”

The former minister told The Sunday Telegraph that having checked her personal diaries, she had found a note of a meeting with Savile in Leeds in September 1988 - the month the taskforce was appointed. In the entry she described his thoughts on Broadmoor as “intriguing”.

Mrs Currie recorded that during the meeting Savile had told her that he suspected staff were inflating their salaries - and that he had threatened to pass the information to the tabloid papers if the staff caused him any trouble.

Savile also told her he had uncovered millions of pounds missing from budgets and poor use of the hospital’s housing stock.

“In my diary, I wrote 'Attaboy’, she said. “This was what he claimed to be doing; now it is hard to know whether any of it is true. And obviously when you look back, it does suggest he was prepared to use blackmail to ensure people did what he wanted.”

Mrs Currie, who had previously met Savile on his television programme Jim’ll Fix it and on visits to Leeds General Infirmary, where he also worked, said she now thought the presenter was “totally evil” and that she was glad criminal investigations were underway.

Following Savile’s appointment at Broadmoor, Alan Franey, an administrator who spent 10 years working at Leeds General Infirmary, also began work on the same taskforce, with progress to be reported to Mrs Currie.

In a book about psychiatric care, Mr Franey described having “an unusual meeting” with health officials in the Athenaeum Club in London, where his new role on the temporary taskforce was proposed.

He neglected to mention in the book that Savile, who was a member of the Athenaeum, was also present. When asked by The Sunday Telegraph if Savile was also there, Mr Franey agreed.

In 1989, Mr Franey was put in overall charge of Broadmoor, where he remained for nine years before retiring as chief executive.

Mr Franey worked as an assistant general manager at Leeds General Infirmary from 1975 to 1985, when the television presenter was volunteering as a night porter. Savile is also accused of sexually abusing girls at the Leeds hospital.

Mr Franey said he got to know Savile because they were among half a dozen men who ran charity marathons together. He said: “I am absolutely astonished. There was absolutely no indication that he was doing what was alleged.”

Mr Franey insisted his friendship with Savile did not help him to get the job on the taskforce, and that he later got the job as general manager of Broadmoor through open competition.

Mr Franey took early retirement from Broadmoor following an inquiry into the hospital in March 1997. The inquiry followed claims made in newspapers that a child pornography ring was operating at Broadmoor.

The Broadmoor Triangle .....