[Udanax]

Originally Posted by SoBig

Dan cemented his legacy as the greatest of all time in BB14.

Top 5 BB season ever. <3

Greatest
Of
All
Time
?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by SoBig

Dan cemented his legacy as the greatest of all time in BB14.

Top 5 BB season ever. <3

the greatest of all time getting *destroyed* in a final vote against someone whose talent was kicking himself in the head <333333333

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

the greatest of all time getting *destroyed* in a final vote against someone whose talent was kicking himself in the head <333333333

Dan > Ian

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

the greatest of all time getting *destroyed* in a final vote against someone whose talent was kicking himself in the head <333333333

That jury wasn't going to give it to someone who won the game before.

Jenn City - "I didn't want a two time winner."

[Udanax]

Edit: k that was unnecessary

[Raph]

Bb14 what a great season

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Raph

Bb14 what a great season

Did you see my final rankings

[LemonJam]

Youtube video

the real star of BB14 tbh.

[LukeB]

Time for Season 15

[Raph]

Season 15 will be the worst ever. Hate Ginamarie, aryan and spencer the most but the majority are awful people

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Raph

Season 15 will be the worst ever. Hate Ginamarie, aryan and spencer the most but the majority are awful people

My first impressions of Aaryn is that I like her, but i'm sure that will change once i saw her in some more episodes

Gina is so annoying, get ready for my rankings

[Raph]

Ku Klux Karyan aka aaryan from bb15

[LukeB]

Season 15 First Impressions

1.Elissa
2.Candice
3.Jessie
4.Nick
5.Aaryn
6.Helen
7.Jeremy
8.Amanda
9.Judd
10.Howard
11.McCrae
12.Kaitlin
13.Spencer
14.GinaMarie
15.David
16.Andy

[Udanax]

Aaryn is the worst BBus hg :3

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Udanax

Aaryn is the worst BBus hg :3

I wouldn't know, I'm on my first episode. hence why it says first impressions because Aaryn comes across good but it will change in future episodes

[SoBig]

BB15 is one of the worst edited BBUS seasons ever.

[JerseyWins]

This wasn't shown on the show, it's from the live feeds, but putting it in spoiler tags anyway just in case:

Spoiler:

When GM destroys Amanda

Youtube video

I get why people dislike GM but IMO she had a few of the best (craziest) moments of the season.

[Macie Lightfoot]

but Ian won so

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

but Ian won so

just because Ian won doesn't mean he is better

for example Lisa won over Danielle on season 3, because the jury was bitter

[Macie Lightfoot]

Bitter juries aren't unfair though. Juries don't exist coming into the game and are completely reactionary. Jury management is key.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Bitter juries aren't unfair though. Juries don't exist coming into the game and are completely reactionary. Jury management is key.

But you can't say Ian is better because he won(if that is what you are implying,when i said Dan>Ian and you said but Ian won So), that is not even stating a opinion, your basically saying all the winners are better then others because they won, does that mean you think Jordan is better of the season 11? I'm sure you dislike her.

if you was stating a opinion it would look like this "I think ian was better because for whatever reason"

Like I think Daniele is better then dick because she was amazing on season 8

[Macie Lightfoot]

Well if you won and got the jury to vote for you, you clearly did something that no one else could do. You don't really seem to give any players credit if you don't like them as people or whatever, just like how you don't give Maggie any credit as a player and say that she won out of luck or w/e and Janelle was robbed. If we're talking about the BB6 final two, I like Ivette more than Maggie, but you can't deny that Maggie ran that house and deserved her win. Who you like more isn't synonymous with who was a better player, who was more deserving, etc.

Of course things have gotten fuzzy since Grodner took over and the amount of rigging and manipulation there's been, but tbh at this point it's really just another element in the game and you have to outplay the producers too.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Well if you won and got the jury to vote for you, you clearly did something that no one else could do. You don't really seem to give any players credit if you don't like them as people or whatever, just like how you don't give Maggie any credit as a player and say that she won out of luck or w/e and Janelle was robbed. If we're talking about the BB6 final two, I like Ivette more than Maggie, but you can't deny that Maggie ran that house and deserved her win. Who you like more isn't synonymous with who was a better player, who was more deserving, etc.

Of course things have gotten fuzzy since Grodner took over and the amount of rigging and manipulation there's been, but tbh at this point it's really just another element in the game and you have to outplay the producers too.

Ian won fair and square but doesn't mean he is better because your saying ian is better like it's a fact.Dan is better then Ian(opinion)

Maggie won fair and square as well but In my opinion i preferred Janelle and i found her better and Majority of America found Janelle better(which is their opinion) because the friendship alliance was unpopular

[karl100589]

I share the sentiment of both to be honest. Dan in my opinion cemented his status as one of the best in the game by managing to make it to the end of the show in spite of having such a big target on his back, he should have been THE target when the coaches entered the game and to make the final 2 with those circumstances was impressive, however he did himself no favours with his aggressive game play which upset a lot of people and this time without the passive and cold Memphis figure as the final 2 alternative. By the time of the final 5 the only person Dan stood a chance against was Jenn, and even that would have been a tough ask with his jury management. It did however create one of the appeals of the season for me, seeing how desperate Dan was getting to make it to the end that he was making all of these aggressive moves which the audience knew were ticking people off left and right practically turning Dan into a Russell Hantz goat figure. Ian did deserve to win that series, but only because Dan did more then enough not to.

What is interesting to note however is the reactions post show. Dan seems for all extensive purposes OK with losing in the final and doesn't hold any kind of resentment towards the jurors (which IMO tells me he knew he was going to lose during the game) whilst Ian seems really bitter that people don't give him any credit for his win and instead see him as benefiting from a bitter jury. It's quite an interesting role reversal.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Again, liking someone more than someone else isn't synonymous with them playing a better game. I don't like Dan or Ian at all and I wasn't making comparisons about who I liked more. Ian won and in the context of BB14 he was a better player than Dan. I don't know why you're trying to drag this out into an argument.