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DemolitionRed · 09-03-2016, 05:48 PM

Just done a catch up on PMQT...
...David Cameron stated that he would not resign should The EU Brexit occur.

Don't know if anyone else watched it today, but if you did, what did you think about Gideon Osborne's very odd behaviour ?

MTVN · 09-03-2016, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Just done a catch up on PMQT...
...David Cameron stated that he would not resign should The EU Brexit occur.

Don't know if anyone else watched it today, but if you did, what did you think about Gideon Osborne's very odd behaviour ?

Watched the start then had to go out so listened to the rest on the radio, what was strange about Osborne's behaviour?

joeysteele · 09-03-2016, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

"That front page printed ,even were it right without the permission and endorsement of the Monarch is a total disgrace in the UK."

Sure Joey
but they have a solid source
and Prince William is Pro EU

So its a Good Balance Joey

'IF' they have any solid source then name the source/s.

This is what the press regulator should be able to make them do, not just print a pathetic apology or fine the Paper

It is a blatant lie anyway as a front page headline, nowhere does the Queen even say she would advocate the UK leaving the EU, in this probably word twisting as to her comments,if even made in the first place.

It isn't a balance at all in any sense of the word if its more fiction than fact.

joeysteele · 09-03-2016, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Just done a catch up on PMQT...
...David Cameron stated that he would not resign should The EU Brexit occur.

Don't know if anyone else watched it today, but if you did, what did you think about Gideon Osborne's very odd behaviour ?

Osborne always looks uncomfortable at PMQs, he also knows by really supporting Cameron on the EU issue,he has likely thrown away his chance to be leader if the UK votes to leave.
He also though, would have been pre-occupied with the vote coming up on the Sunday trading law too.

I really believe now that David Cameron would not want to resign but he is well aware the party likely will force a leadership election to be held in the event of an 'out' vote.
Which would leave him as not needing to resign but since he was standing down before the next election anyway, he would gracefully bow out.

So no, he would not resign as such but would have to go in my view.

Kizzy · 09-03-2016, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Just done a catch up on PMQT...
...David Cameron stated that he would not resign should The EU Brexit occur.

Don't know if anyone else watched it today, but if you did, what did you think about Gideon Osborne's very odd behaviour ?

I did see it on you tube, do you mean the staring about? He always looks like he's tripping his tits off doesn't he?

DemolitionRed · 09-03-2016, 08:37 PM

Has a little snigger at 'tripping his tits off'! He just looked like he was sweating and frowning even more than usual. He looked like he was very uncomfortable and nervous.

Kizzy · 09-03-2016, 08:47 PM

Yes his little lizard brain processing how else to spread poverty across the country

Vicky. · 09-03-2016, 08:51 PM

Despite the constant bombardment of EU stuff, I am still undecided

I will probably vote in though when it comes to it..as as far as I am aware, if the tories get 'too' cruel, the EU can step in. I do not wish to throw the people of Britain to the wolves in the way an unregulated Tory majority would be...

Kizzy · 09-03-2016, 09:02 PM

Isn't that sad, when it comes down to it many can clearly see this govt for what it is, a heartless elitist boys club.
I believe that will be what drives many to an in vote too.

DemolitionRed · 09-03-2016, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Despite the constant bombardment of EU stuff, I am still undecided

I will probably vote in though when it comes to it..as as far as I am aware, if the tories get 'too' cruel, the EU can step in. I do not wish to throw the people of Britain to the wolves in the way an unregulated Tory majority would be...

Well said Vicky.

joeysteele · 09-03-2016, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Despite the constant bombardment of EU stuff, I am still undecided

I will probably vote in though when it comes to it..as as far as I am aware, if the tories get 'too' cruel, the EU can step in. I do not wish to throw the people of Britain to the wolves in the way an unregulated Tory majority would be...

For me that is another selling point for the EU, as to extremes of any govt in fact.
However,yes, at this present time, as to this truly bad and heartless Conservative party leadership.

DemolitionRed · 09-03-2016, 09:33 PM

On the 3rd March Ely Cathedral had a 'brexit debate' where nearly 500 people attended
http://www.elycathedralbusinessgroup.org/ All of the speakers were right wing, including Stewart Agnew on behalf of UKIP.

At the start of the evening a poll was taken via mobile phones on whether people were in, out or undecided. It was roughly 50% in and 25% between the other two camps.
After the speakers had finished they took another poll, again via mobile phone and this time it was 70% in.
It has to make you wonder how offensive Agnew was.

Kizzy · 09-03-2016, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

On the 3rd March Ely Cathedral had a 'brexit debate' where nearly 500 people attended
http://www.elycathedralbusinessgroup.org/ All of the speakers were right wing, including Stewart Agnew on behalf of UKIP.

At the start of the evening a poll was taken via mobile phones on whether people were in, out or undecided. It was roughly 50% in and 25% between the other two camps.
After the speakers had finished they took another poll, again via mobile phone and this time it was 70% in.
It has to make you wonder how offensive Agnew was.

Backfired

DemolitionRed · 09-03-2016, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Backfired

Well he probably meant to say something like, "migrants are living in fancy houses on free money while raping the women and eating your pets" but got it the wrong way round

Alf · 09-03-2016, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Despite the constant bombardment of EU stuff, I am still undecided

I will probably vote in though when it comes to it..as as far as I am aware, if the tories get 'too' cruel, the EU can step in. I do not wish to throw the people of Britain to the wolves in the way an unregulated Tory majority would be...

If the Tories get too cruel, then we the people will step in by voting them out, we don't need the EU to hold our hand.

kirklancaster · 10-03-2016, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

If the Tories get too cruel, then we the people will step in by voting them out, we don't need the EU to hold our hand.

The EU are holding our throat Alf - not our hand.

arista · 10-03-2016, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

'IF' they have any solid source then name the source/s.

This is what the press regulator should be able to make them do, not just print a pathetic apology or fine the Paper

It is a blatant lie anyway as a front page headline, nowhere does the Queen even say she would advocate the UK leaving the EU, in this probably word twisting as to her comments,if even made in the first place.

It isn't a balance at all in any sense of the word if its more fiction than fact.

"Michael Gove"

Yesterdays Great Front Page

joeysteele · 10-03-2016, 07:47 AM

If Michael Gove is a source then firstly how cowardly of him to hide behind anonymity,furthermore what happened to the oath that MPS have to take as to the Monarch.

I had respect for Gove but if he is a source and has said anything as to this to the vile rag that is the Sun, then he should be dismissed as a Minister right off and even should be thrown out of Parliament for me.

I is an absolute disgrace that after being Queen for 64 years plus, that one of her Ministers may have dragged her name and herself into a serious political issue,quite frankly if he has, it shows the desperation and failure of the 'out' camp.

I am not particularly a massive Monarchist but at least I act out of respect and integrity I hope, Gove has sacrificed any chance of the Conservative leadership,he has acted very badly and wrongly 'if' he is a source at all as to this.
He needs to explain this quickly and very strongly too and if he has not been a source for it, that is what he would do too.

bots · 10-03-2016, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

If Michael Gove is a source then firstly how cowardly of him to hide behind anonymity,furthermore what happened to the oath that MPS have to take as to the Monarch.

I had respect for Gove but if he is a source and has said anything as to this to the vile rag that is the Sun, then he should be dismissed as a Minister right off and even should be thrown out of Parliament for me.

I is an absolute disgrace that after being Queen for 64 years plus, that one of her Ministers may have dragged her name and herself into a serious political issue,quite frankly if he has, it shows the desperation and failure of the 'out' camp.

I am not particularly a massive Monarchist but I at least I act out of respect and integrity I hope, 2 things Gove has sacrificed very badly and wrongly if he is a source at all as to this.
He needs to explain this quickly and very strongly too and if he has not been a source for it, that is what he would do too.

If Gove was the source, he has betrayed personal trust over confidential discussions, and should be sacked from the cabinet immediately

Kizzy · 10-03-2016, 09:08 AM

Well well well.... tsk, tsk.

No doubt he'll slither out of it by blaming some underling.

smudgie · 10-03-2016, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well well well.... tsk, tsk.

No doubt he'll slither out of it by blaming some underling.

Might not be that easy for him, he was one of those present when the alleged conversation took place, alongside Mr.Clegg.
Looks like he has taken an innocent comment and twisted it to his advantage.
Off with his head I say..take him to the tower.(or at least sack him)

Kizzy · 10-03-2016, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by smudgie

Might not be that easy for him, he was one of those present when the alleged conversation took place, alongside Mr.Clegg.
Looks like he has taken an innocent comment and twisted it to his advantage.
Off with his head I say..take him to the tower.(or at least sack him)

Surely it's treason?.... Off with his head I say

arista · 10-03-2016, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well well well.... tsk, tsk.

No doubt he'll slither out of it by blaming some underling.

Yes Kizzy
could be the case

Vicky. · 10-03-2016, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

If the Tories get too cruel, then we the people will step in by voting them out, we don't need the EU to hold our hand.

Well we cant vote them out for a fair few years, and the 'I'm alright, I'm not working/middle class' people will vote tory whatever they do.

Alf · 10-03-2016, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well we cant vote them out for a fair few years, and the 'I'm alright, I'm not working/middle class' people will vote tory whatever they do.

And we has people will never be able to vote the EU out, so a few years sounds great doesn't it?

Just think of the freedom you're taking away from future generations by voting to stay in the Soviet Union sorry European Union. When Britain is finally dead (which it will be if we don't stand up for ourselves), the future generations will look in the history books (if they've not been burnt) and see that we had the opportunity to do something to save it. They wont be very proud of us, the way we're proud of our past generations who fought for our freedom.

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