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The inability for some on here to have an honest discussion because it means they don't get to hate on a group of people they're seemingly obsessed with is ever increasing but not surprising. |
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The desperation to push this transphobic agenda.
A quick google search work tell you that the MAJORITY of mass shootings are committed by cis gendered MEN. Far right, white supremacist or racist • Wade Michael Page. 2012. Oak Creek WI Sikh temple. White supremacist motive confirmed by FBI. Source The Violence Project. FBI. • Dylann Roof. 2015. Charleston SC church. White supremacist. Federal hate crime conviction and death sentence. Source DOJ filings. AP. • Frazier Glenn Miller Jr. 2014. Overland Park KS Jewish sites. Neo Nazi antisemitic motive. State conviction. Source AP. DOJ. • Robert Bowers. 2018. Pittsburgh PA Tree of Life synagogue. White supremacist. Federal death sentence. Source DOJ. AP. • John Earnest. 2019. Poway CA synagogue. Antisemitic manifesto. State and federal convictions. Source DOJ. Court records. • Patrick Crusius. 2019. El Paso TX Walmart. Great Replacement anti immigrant manifesto. Federal life sentence on hate crimes. Source DOJ. AP. • Payton Gendron. 2022. Buffalo NY Tops supermarket. Great Replacement manifesto. State life without parole. Federal death penalty sought. Source DOJ. AP. • Ryan Palmeter. 2023. Jacksonville FL Dollar General. Anti Black writings. Swastikas on rifle. Source Jacksonville Sheriff. AP. Most perpetrators are cisgender men. Trans or nonbinary suspects are a tiny fraction of all incidents. Reuters analysis of Gun Violence Archive data puts trans suspects at about 0.11 percent of all mass shootings over the last decade, and roughly 2 percent of school cases where gender identity was identified. Source Reuters fact check.
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This Witch doesn't burn
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[QUOTE=Glenn.;11691138]The desperation to push this transphobic agenda.
A quick google search work tell you that the MAJORITY of mass shootings are committed by cis gendered MEN. Far right, white supremacist or racist • Wade Michael Page. 2012. Oak Creek WI Sikh temple. White supremacist motive confirmed by FBI. Source The Violence Project. FBI. • Dylann Roof. 2015. Charleston SC church. White supremacist. Federal hate crime conviction and death sentence. Source DOJ filings. AP. • Frazier Glenn Miller Jr. 2014. Overland Park KS Jewish sites. Neo Nazi antisemitic motive. State conviction. Source AP. DOJ. • Robert Bowers. 2018. Pittsburgh PA Tree of Life synagogue. White supremacist. Federal death sentence. Source DOJ. AP. • John Earnest. 2019. Poway CA synagogue. Antisemitic manifesto. State and federal convictions. Source DOJ. Court records. • Patrick Crusius. 2019. El Paso TX Walmart. Great Replacement anti immigrant manifesto. Federal life sentence on hate crimes. Source DOJ. AP. • Payton Gendron. 2022. Buffalo NY Tops supermarket. Great Replacement manifesto. State life without parole. Federal death penalty sought. Source DOJ. AP. • Ryan Palmeter. 2023. Jacksonville FL Dollar General. Anti Black writings. Swastikas on rifle. Source Jacksonville Sheriff. AP. Most perpetrators are cisgender men. Trans or nonbinary suspects are a tiny fraction of all incidents. Reuters analysis of Gun Violence Archive data puts trans suspects at about 0.11 percent of all mass shootings over the last decade, and roughly 2 percent of school cases where gender identity was identified. Source Reuters fact check.[/QUOTE] Lets face it they are all biological men whichever way you try to cut it
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Transphobes have proven time and time again that they don’t care about facts and reality, they’ll just continue to push their hateful narratives despite how stupid an ignorant it makes them look
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The voice of reason
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Flag shagger.
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The non-violent trans community. Punch a TERF, right? Ahh.... So peaceful.
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![]() Documentary for people who thought I was joking: This is the kind of neurosis that floats around the communities that the shooter was at least partial to. It's not the whole community obviously. Furry has its origins in the online art community (largely Deviant Art), but still... imagine just preaching any of your most important gospels adjacent to this phenomenon...
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JD Vance: "No unity with these people" This is the correct response https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1967654338379350302 |
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thesheriff443
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I listening to this expecting a good take because I'd seen a smaller transcript of this and it sounded more reasonable than what we'd been hearing. Still, didn't expect this at the start: Timestamp: https://youtu.be/AZVvB0ZBxRs?si=5WLGxvF25fxSq87C&t=37 Actual remarks at about @1:00 "We can't just be that, well Trump is always wrong, or that we're going to set the country on fire..... or whatever–uhghh err that's not just true either, of course" ![]() ...Why not just openly admit it at this point? Otherwise it's just dragging the entire party further and further towards the abyss if they're just going to ignore what people have seen and heard and are responding to. It's the perfect time to renew their message as the whole country is currently soul-searching... maybe they're afraid their base won't be willing to hear it? I do think that's what he's calling for,... but yeah, he can't say the quiet parts out loud... or in my mind, the loud parts out loud because can already hear what's not being said. Hard to know who will divorce first. The Democrats or the far fringes of their party that are hijacking their messaging. I can't imagine they'd let them take it completely over, but I guess this is the fork in the road to find that out... The interview also began with an answer to a question we didn't hear (I hate when they do that) where he says "I'm never going to change my party"...
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the emmys did not mention charlie kirks death
its most likely that all of the right wing media will have meltdowns galores complain non stop and whine like crazy |
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This thread has turned into a whole cluster fook. Not all trans women and men are evil and not all men are evil. Why is this turning into a insult members thread?
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The post where you quoted that there were a few trans who been shooters when the shooter that killed Charlie wasn’t even trans. He was a whote male shooter. Why bring the trans community in this. Sure his partner was trans but they weren’t the shooter
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The voice of reason
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And what about that post was inaccurate?
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Of course... he confessed on Discord. Gotta get that last achievement (a gamer thing).
Charlie Kirk suspect's astonishing 'it was me' confession to online chat group revealed just before he turned himself in https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...onfession.html Quote:
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what we should be aiming for is free speech with civility. It is civility that bounds the extremities of free speech, not supression.
With social media and closed bubble social groups, it's impossible to stop people saying what they want to. They have tried to remove anonimity to make people accountable, but that will be bypassed as more and more people are prosecuted for their online words. It's obvious where it's all heading and yet no-one does anything positive to increase civility on the major platforms |
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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…just after Charlie Kirk’s killing, it was being discussed in the radio and I only switched it on to hear a little part of it so don’t know who the speaker was, only that they were American…what they were saying was that many things can be true and are true in terms of ‘Democrat/Republic’ mindsets and behaviour etc in terms of belief systems and mindsets…and they often are just different ends of the same thing…but sadly, it’s not the many things that are all true at once that are being focused on so much as picking out the bits that can be manipulated into fitting into agenda driven goals…and it gets believed because it’s not so much fake news completely as just in accurate and plucked out and out of context to fit… and then it’s shared and shared and shared and shared etc…but the thing being lost is that it’ll never become accurate truth no matter how many shares…it’s still only a small manipulated piece of something that’s become very dangerous and even, deadly in some cases…
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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