[Firewire]

Just watched Pam and Barbara's Back to Ours episode. It was really sad seeing Pat and Peggy's final scene together. It was actually quite sad seeing it again because, at the time, it was never truly their final scene because I always expected Barbara to return. But Pat died before Peggy re-appeared, which is really very sad.

[LukeB]

I find it unfair that they said they wasn't going to kill Pat off and they did

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I find it unfair that they said they wasn't going to kill Pat off and they did

me too, Bryan Kirkwood destroyed the show

[Gstar]

oh my days, all this time I've been dragging Lorraine for killing off Pat and it wasn't even her

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Germyle

oh my days, all this time I've been dragging Lorraine for killing off Pat and it wasn't even her

Lorraine tried to fix the show, her era was boring but she reintroduced David Wicks and Ronnie as well as having Liam's gang storyline (which I thought was very good).

Bryan killed Heather, too.

[Marsh.]

****ing Bryan Kirkwood.

Hollyoaks on his CV should've stopped them giving him the job in the first place.

[Firewire]

Spoiler regarding Lucy reveal:

Spoiler:

Lauren writes Jane and Ian a wedding card. In her message she tells them what she knows about Lucy's killer. Jane reads the card, Ian doesn't.

[Amy Jade]

Spoiler:

It’s been ten months, TEN MONTHS, since little Lucy Beale’s body was found on Walford common. In that time there has been four births, three marriages and two more deaths on the Square – and now we’re only a week away from finding out who dunnit.

And I’m telling you it’s Jane.

Kind of. Don’t forget this is EastEnders we’re talking about and nothing is ever straightforward, so this is what I think happened…

Following the discovery that Lucy kept a stash of cocaine in her jewellery box, Jane flipped out.

She flipped out even more when, later that night, she discovered that little Bobby had got his hands on Lucy’s drugs. After catching Lucy having sex with Lee earlier that day, Jane sent Lucy a text saying she needed to talk to her. Jane thought Lucy was going off the rails and her intention was to talk some sense into her.

Instead, Lucy wound Jane up by laughing at her and saying that Bobby wasn’t even her real son and she was just a barren old woman – or something else lovely along those lines.

Jane lost her temper and flung the jewellery box at Lucy, causing her to fall down and knock her head. (Remember one of the clues was the music box being the last thing Lucy heard?)

And also remember that Lucy had already had a bump to the head a few days before?


Well, the second knock to the head caused her to have an aneurism (yep, like what Pauline had ‘n all) and she died. The open music box on the floor was the last thing she heard as she died. Jane panicked because a) she hadn’t meant to kill Lucy, she just lost her temper and b) she couldn’t be a mum to Bobby if she was locked up.

So she took Lucy’s body to Walford Common and dumped it there to make it look like a mugging.

That’s when her behaviour started to become very suspicious.

After having sex with Ian (GUILT!) she rushed back to Birmingham with Bobby (TO HAVE HER CAR CLEANED OUT SO NONE OF LUCY’S DNA WAS IN IT.) Then there was that whole drama about her not going to the funeral (GUILT!) She turned up in the end but still managed to avoid it when she comforted Ian who had just found out that Lucy had been sleeping with Max.

Are you all still with me?

Further incriminating evidence for Jane is her being the first one to look at Lucy’s phone after Ian had charged it up. This gave her the chance to delete the message she sent Lucy on the night she was killed. And remember how she took on Phil Mitchell to keep the phone and purse? Who takes on Phil Mitchell?

Maybe someone whose fingerprints and DNA are all over the stuff from when she took it off Lucy and dumped it, making it look like she was mugged. And then she hid them under the floorboard in the Beale house, rather than giving them to the police.

Bit suspicious, no?

Small but crucial, Emma knew the killer drinks tea – we know this because she bought one for the killer when they met at the park. How many cups of tea had she shared with Jane while working as the family liaison officer and comforting the family?

And then there is the small matter of Lauren discovering Emma’s file and recognising the number written down. The landline number of her best friend and childhood sweetheart would be a number she’d know by sight, after all. And she’s acting all weird about going to the Beale house at the moment, but doesn’t actually seem a bit scared by Peter.

Which suggests that it’s someone ELSE in the house.

Finally, there’s that weird alibi she provided for Lauren when Emma was given the footage from Fatboy’s phone. Was she providing an alibi for Lauren? Or for herself? Or was she telling the truth, but lying about where she was? If she were inside the Masood’s as she claims, she wouldn’t have been able to see if Lauren had gone into the Beale house or not. (Look at a map of the Square if you need convincing).


So there you have it…that’s what happened to Lucy Beale. I’m off to sign up to Walford CID.

I just read this and tbh it's a pretty solid theory imo

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Spoiler:

It’s been ten months, TEN MONTHS, since little Lucy Beale’s body was found on Walford common. In that time there has been four births, three marriages and two more deaths on the Square – and now we’re only a week away from finding out who dunnit.

And I’m telling you it’s Jane.

Kind of. Don’t forget this is EastEnders we’re talking about and nothing is ever straightforward, so this is what I think happened…

Following the discovery that Lucy kept a stash of cocaine in her jewellery box, Jane flipped out.

She flipped out even more when, later that night, she discovered that little Bobby had got his hands on Lucy’s drugs. After catching Lucy having sex with Lee earlier that day, Jane sent Lucy a text saying she needed to talk to her. Jane thought Lucy was going off the rails and her intention was to talk some sense into her.

Instead, Lucy wound Jane up by laughing at her and saying that Bobby wasn’t even her real son and she was just a barren old woman – or something else lovely along those lines.

Jane lost her temper and flung the jewellery box at Lucy, causing her to fall down and knock her head. (Remember one of the clues was the music box being the last thing Lucy heard?)

And also remember that Lucy had already had a bump to the head a few days before?


Well, the second knock to the head caused her to have an aneurism (yep, like what Pauline had ‘n all) and she died. The open music box on the floor was the last thing she heard as she died. Jane panicked because a) she hadn’t meant to kill Lucy, she just lost her temper and b) she couldn’t be a mum to Bobby if she was locked up.

So she took Lucy’s body to Walford Common and dumped it there to make it look like a mugging.

That’s when her behaviour started to become very suspicious.

After having sex with Ian (GUILT!) she rushed back to Birmingham with Bobby (TO HAVE HER CAR CLEANED OUT SO NONE OF LUCY’S DNA WAS IN IT.) Then there was that whole drama about her not going to the funeral (GUILT!) She turned up in the end but still managed to avoid it when she comforted Ian who had just found out that Lucy had been sleeping with Max.

Are you all still with me?

Further incriminating evidence for Jane is her being the first one to look at Lucy’s phone after Ian had charged it up. This gave her the chance to delete the message she sent Lucy on the night she was killed. And remember how she took on Phil Mitchell to keep the phone and purse? Who takes on Phil Mitchell?

Maybe someone whose fingerprints and DNA are all over the stuff from when she took it off Lucy and dumped it, making it look like she was mugged. And then she hid them under the floorboard in the Beale house, rather than giving them to the police.

Bit suspicious, no?

Small but crucial, Emma knew the killer drinks tea – we know this because she bought one for the killer when they met at the park. How many cups of tea had she shared with Jane while working as the family liaison officer and comforting the family?

And then there is the small matter of Lauren discovering Emma’s file and recognising the number written down. The landline number of her best friend and childhood sweetheart would be a number she’d know by sight, after all. And she’s acting all weird about going to the Beale house at the moment, but doesn’t actually seem a bit scared by Peter.

Which suggests that it’s someone ELSE in the house.

Finally, there’s that weird alibi she provided for Lauren when Emma was given the footage from Fatboy’s phone. Was she providing an alibi for Lauren? Or for herself? Or was she telling the truth, but lying about where she was? If she were inside the Masood’s as she claims, she wouldn’t have been able to see if Lauren had gone into the Beale house or not. (Look at a map of the Square if you need convincing).


So there you have it…that’s what happened to Lucy Beale. I’m off to sign up to Walford CID.

I just read this and tbh it's a pretty solid theory imo

yeah seems like a solid bet now. I hope it's not right though

[Marsh.]

[Iceman]

Wow that's pretty damning evidence. Maybe the killer could pin it on jane

[Marsh.]

That sounds hilarious though tbh.

Spoiler:

Jane throwing a box to Lucy's head in the flashback episode

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That sounds hilarious though tbh.

Spoiler:

Jane throwing a box to Lucy's head in the flashback episode

I wonder how smug you will be if Jane is the killer.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I wonder how smug you will be if Jane is the killer.

Soooooooo smug!!!!!!

I've said it so much it better be right.

Either way I'm 100% sure she's involved at some point in the killing/dumping of the body.

[Firewire]

That's a really good theory that I think is quite plausible. I think someone must have helped her move the body though?

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Firewire

That's a really good theory that I think is quite plausible. I think someone must have helped her move the body though?

Tamwar obviously

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Tamwar obviously

[Firewire]

Has anyone entered the competition?

[Jack.]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Has anyone entered the competition?

Yeah I entered and put Jane as the killer.

[Loukas]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Has anyone entered the competition?

yep, i picked Jane.. I think alot of people have.. I hope it's her an not a Branning! I really hope it's not Abi!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Loukas

yep, i picked Jane.. I think alot of people have.. I hope it's her an not a Branning! I really hope it's not Abi!

I hope it is Abi, she is the most whingey annoying character in the whole show

[Loukas]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I hope it is Abi, she is the most whingey annoying character in the whole show

I actually think she's great, i think she's a good actress that channels Tanya very well. I really like how her character is developing too, i agree she is whingey but i can see why she's whingey because she was raised in that family.

I do like the Branning sisters alot and i hope they are still in the show 5/10 years from now! Lauren's character is kinda like a younger Rainie (when lauren was an alcoholic stuff) and Abi, like i've already said, is like a little tanya!

On the sisters note, i hope they bring back Libby and Chelsea full time later on in the year too! Chelsea can come back married or something!

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I hope it is Abi, she is the most whingey annoying character in the whole show

Her legs don't match her body they literally look like tree trunks /random

[Kate!]

as if it's Jane

[Rob!]

Judging from Lauren's reaction, it must be one of the Beales.