[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Whats new Zizu, the press always do this Chinese whispers thing, sensationalism sells to some, he obviously didnt travel there JUST to test his eyesight, but it sounds like a good stance to take so people can dig the knives in even further, its all so ridiculous now and not really worth debating about,as you can see people just don't like him so will lap all the crap up.

ah, the Cummings fans getting all in the ''victim role'' learning well from their master of lies, the rule breaker, Cummings The Crook

so predictable

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

ah, the Cummings fans getting all in the ''victim role'' learning well from their master of lies, the rule breaker, Cummings The Crook

so predictable

Ah nothing Nicky, I am no particular fan as I have already said, so get the facts right, When did I say I was a fan,just because I don't like the way the media are treating this doesnt mean I am a 'fan' of his as you call it.calling him names and saying silly things is childish imo.and tell me how is he a 'crook' ? so predicatable !!!

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Whats new Zizu, the press always do this Chinese whispers thing, sensationalism sells to some, he obviously didnt travel there JUST to test his eyesight, but it sounds like a good stance to take so people can dig the knives in even further, its all so ridiculous now and not really worth debating about,as you can see people just don't like him so will lap all the crap up.

So his excuse that he drove there to test his eye sight was a lie then? Good to know

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Liam-

So his excuse that he drove there to test his eye sight was a lie then? Good to know

Why do you always try twisting stuff,I did not say that at all ,I said it was probably NOT the ONLY reason,so please stop the sniping at my posts all the time,its pretty simple,no one has said what he did was right,but the media is rather over the top now I think that is my opinion,no one is saying he did or didn't do this and that,we have heard numerous times what happened and how people are pissed off ,I get it but am allowed to not like certain things I see and hear in the media as a whole,some being rather cruel and unnecessary imo, I know some people like to pull people apart ,it might make them feel that their opinion means something more,but for me what is done is done,we cannot change it,he might end up going he might not, but I am sure other things are happening that needs addressing, there is a police inquiry so let them do their job. I just dislike the press in any shape or form ,proven liars and hypocrites,so I think they need to back off people a bit.

[Marsh.]

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Is this the adding to the debate you meant.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Is this the adding to the debate you meant.

Yes.

[smudgie]

I am just amazed he is still there.
Sack him, with no pension.

[Parmy]

But the head honcho government advisor isnt allowed to judge the severity of the situation he is dealt with..his government needs him..so as a strategist he obviously along with his wife ways up and thinks about all eventualitys regarding the drive back to work where as a key worker he is desperately needed.

McLaren and Ferrari would do the same for top gear testing their car and the capabilities of its driver for the show.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

But the head honcho government advisor isnt allowed to judge the severity of the situation he is dealt with..his government needs him..so as a strategist he obviously along with his wife ways up and thinks about all eventualitys regarding the drive back to work where as a key worker he is desperately needed.

But he SHOULDN'T be so desperately needed. The fact that the prime minister, the supposed leader of the country, seemingly can't function without this chap is a HUGE problem.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

But he SHOULDN'T be so desperately needed. The fact that the prime minister, the supposed leader of the country, seemingly can't function without this chap is a HUGE problem.

If you believe Twitter and **** like that, then yes..I would.probanly think that way as well.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

If you believe Twitter and **** like that, then yes..I would.probanly think that way as well.

As opposed to you believing... his completely contradictory and nonsensical statements?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

If you believe Twitter and **** like that, then yes..I would.probanly think that way as well.

I've known about Dominic Cummings since before Brexit, I'm not basing my opinions of him on Twitter, or anything that's happened in the last week.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I've known about Dominic Cummings since before Brexit, I'm not basing my opinions of him on Twitter, or anything that's happened in the last week.

Is he a family man? Cause on this matter that's where I would begin my judgement.

[Marsh.]

It never ceases to make me crack up at a 30 minute journey continually being called a "short trip".

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It never ceases to make me crack up at a 30 minute journey continually being called a "short trip".

Well it is a short trip compared to the one from London to Durham.. surely ?


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[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well it is a short trip compared to the one from London to Durham.. surely ?


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It's not as long as Route 66 either, doesn't make it a "short trip" to test your driving skills.

[Zizu]

Now this morning Starmer was calling for Cummings’s head ..

Now apparently there was a political commentator on today’s Good morning Britain say that 4 labour MPs had broken the lock down and none had been punished by him.
Is this the case?

Does anyone know ??


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[Zizu]

Interesting...
Please excuse the cut and paste job

Last Labour took on a new line and a new, harsher, tone. Instead of asking questions, the leader of the opposition pivoted to demanding the scalp of Dominic Cummings. Pitch forks were sharpened. Attack videos were made. The witch hunt campaign began in earnest.

Whilst this more aggressive strategy, as Corbyn’s used to, collects likes and retweets in droves online, Starmer has now opened up a can of hypocrisy worms that he will not be able to put back with any ease.

It isn’t that long ago that Labour’s Stephen Kinnock drove hundreds of miles to see his elderly parents during lockdown or that one of Labour’s few remaining MPs in County Durham, Kevan Jones, attended a constituents’ birthday party. On both occasions, Keir Starmer of course did nothing.

This new approach smacks bad faith hyper partisanship – exactly the approach the new Labour Leader told the nation he would avoid. Truly gone is the brief window of constructive opposition.

Starmer’s statement yesterday highlighted the tragic cases of people across this country not able to be with their loved ones in their final moments, and of mourners unable to find the closure and shared consolation of funerals. Yet this was the same Keir Starmer who did nothing to reprimand Labour MP Tahir Ali who attended a funeral in his constituency as one of 100 mourners at the start of April. The point scoring partisan double standards over such sensitive matters leaves a truly bitter taste in the mouth.

The statement is even more brazen when you take into account that Dominic Cummings himself was among the many millions of people robbed of being with their loved ones in their final moments. Due to the lockdown Cummings was unable to visit his uncle, whom he was exceptionally close to, through his final days in hospital in London. At the time, Cummings was isolating in Durham.

What a contrast to those Labour MPs who darted about the country for reasons other than safeguarding children with particular needs.

Even viewed under the harshest lens, the case of Dominic Cummings is less than clear cut. MPs like Steve Baker who have called for Cummings to go have spoken about the “spirit” rather than the letter of the rules being broken. This far from the same category of those Labour MPs who actually broke lockdown.

Labour’s Health Secretary in Wales, Vaughn Gething, had a picnic with his family in a park at a time when the Welsh Government he sits in explicitly said “No picnics in the park.” There is no wriggle room there. Keir Starmer of course stayed silent.

Once the guillotine has been dragged out for one person, it rarely works out well for the initial operators.

Labour needs to recognise they can’t cheer on the cancel culture revolution for their political opponents, while ignoring the graver misdeeds of their own. Keir Starmer is opening a pandora’s box of persecution, and it will not discriminate by party. This can’t be one rule for Labour politicians, and another rule for everyone else.


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[Marsh.]

That's all well and good, if it was Labour and Labour only calling for Cummings to resign.

[Zizu]

There’s only 30 Tories mouthing off ( out of 365) ... the majority of those apparently hold grudges against Cummings ( he’s very unpopular) and they’re mostly unknowns anyways


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[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

There’s only 30 Tories mouthing off ( out of 365) ... the majority of those apparently hold grudges against Cummings ( he’s very unpopular) and they’re mostly unknowns anyways


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If you want to make it about political point scoring maybe...

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