[setanta]

Originally Posted by Rory

Y Tu Mama Tambien was good, Alfonso Cuaron is an amazing director. He directed the only Harry Potter I liked and Children of Men.

Yep, he's quality. Children of Men was so good.

[James]

Originally Posted by setanta

Yep, he's quality. Children of Men was so good.

Children of Men must be one of my most overrated films. I found Clive Owen very uncharismatic in it. Not sure I like that whole future's-gone-to-pot genre anyway.

[Stu]

The Matrix Trilogy as a whole was massively underrated. The first one became a huge pop culture phenomenon and thus the sequels were in the mainstream but really they were never intended for mainstream consumption. Most people did not bother to understand them. They just wanted to see 'the black fella in the leatehr jacket shootin'.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Stu

The Matrix Trilogy as a whole was massively underrated. The first one became a huge pop culture phenomenon and thus the sequels were in the mainstream but really they were never intended for mainstream consumption. Most people did not bother to understand them. They just wanted to see 'the black fella in the leatehr jacket shootin'.

Not seen the other two for ages. The trilogy could be worth a rewatch

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Stu

The Matrix Trilogy as a whole was massively underrated. The first one became a huge pop culture phenomenon and thus the sequels were in the mainstream but really they were never intended for mainstream consumption. Most people did not bother to understand them. They just wanted to see 'the black fella in the leatehr jacket shootin'.

I thought the first one was good, the second was fun but I hated the third one really.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Stu

The Matrix Trilogy as a whole was massively underrated. The first one became a huge pop culture phenomenon and thus the sequels were in the mainstream but really they were never intended for mainstream consumption. Most people did not bother to understand them. They just wanted to see 'the black fella in the leatehr jacket shootin'.

The same has happened with Pirates of the Caribbean

[Enid]

Hah Stu, I was way too young to get The Matrix. The only part I enjoyed was the sex scene in the first film. My god, that was hot.

I should really watch them again, if only for the sex.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Enid

Hah Stu, I was way too young to get The Matrix. The only part I enjoyed was the sex scene in the first film. My god, that was hot.

I should really watch them again, if only for the sex.

The second film? You mean the sex scene with all the plugs and holes?

[Enid]

Originally Posted by Stu

The second film? You mean the sex scene with all the plugs and holes?

No no, the first between Keanu and that broad. It's probably nothing now, but I was a horny teen with a male libido.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Enid

No no, the first between Keanu and that broad. It's probably nothing now, but I was a horny teen with a male libido.

... please continue. Sounded like you were about to tell us a story there!

[Enid]

Originally Posted by setanta

... please continue. Sounded like you were about to tell us a story there!

You just wanna hear more boob talk.

[setanta]

Nah Stu, the other two were comprised of inane pseudo-psychological ramblings that alienated the audience and elevated the whole enterprise to a level of pomposity that actually made them laughable. Loved the first one and was absolutely appalled by the other two. Found it a chore to watch them.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by setanta

Nah Stu, the other two were comprised of inane pseudo-psychological ramblings that alienated the audience and elevated the whole enterprise to a level of pomposity that actually made them laughable. Loved the first one and was absolutely appalled by the other two. Found it a chore to watch them.

That's the point though, your either into it or your not. I don't see how a film is automatically pompous just because it's not a loud, dumb action movie.

Besides, they didn't suddenly become pompous. The entire Trilogy was conceived as just that - a trilogy. The entire thing was written and planned before the first scene of the first movie was ever shot.

As for alienating the audience, that's what I mean by them not really being fit for mainstream consumption.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Stu

That's the point though, your either into it or your not. I don't see how a film is automatically pompous just because it's not a loud, dumb action movie.

Besides, they didn't suddenly become pompous. The entire Trilogy was conceived as just that - a trilogy. The entire thing was written and planned before the first scene of the first movie was ever shot.

As for alienating the audience, that's what I mean by them not really being fit for mainstream consumption.

Nah, it's was just silliness really, and it didn't help that the actors delivered the lines so earnestly. It was like Jesus of Nazerath meets Mortal Kombat and Tron. Just didn't mix well.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by setanta

Nah, it's was just silliness really, and it didn't help that the actors delivered the lines so earnestly. It was like Jesus of Nazerath meets Mortal Kombat and Tron. Just didn't mix well.

No it wasn't ... it was just the idea of the trilogy. That's what it was. A trilogy designed to make you question the nature of reality and the interchangeable values of good and evil, evolution and causation. To say it was silly is like saying all that ring bollocks in the Lord Of The Rings was silly. Should Keanu Reeves have been on a pogo stick juggling floppy disks when he was questioning The Oracles rhetoric?

You either liked it or you didn't. Marmite.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Stu

No it wasn't ... it was just the idea of the trilogy. That's what it was. A trilogy designed to make you question the nature of reality and the interchangeable values of good and evil, evolution and causation. To say it was silly is like saying all that ring bollocks in the Lord Of The Rings was silly. Should Keanu Reeves have been on a pogo stick juggling floppy disks when he was questioning The Oracles rhetoric?

You either liked it or you didn't. Marmite.

It's nothing to do with the lack of action Stu - it's just that the whole thing had a pooey, reverential tone which made it totally unpalatable.

[InOne]

Ong-bak!!! What a film!

[setanta]

Originally Posted by InOne

Ong-bak!!! What a film!

Lol. It's hysterical stuff.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by setanta

Lol. It's hysterical stuff.

The Marital Arts in it is ace though, and the fact it's all real.

[Stu]

I'm trying to jog my memory here for a sex scene in the first Matrix .

Must have been stoned last time I watched it.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Stu

I'm trying to jog my memory here for a sex scene in the first Matrix .

Must have been stoned last time I watched it.

I dont remember one either

[Enid]

Whhhaaat? There must've been, unless I'm exaggerating. I dunno. As I said, horny teen. Could get off to anything back then. Bwaha.

[Stu]

Well, Trinity lifts up Neo's top and sucks a tracker bug out of his bellybutton in the back of a car, but that's as X-Rated as the first one get's I reckon .

[Iceman]

Thirteen definately, saw it a few mnths back, great ending to it.

I'd say Fear And Loathing In Las Vega - wasn't a commercial success but became a cult classic.

Also Stand By Me - never gets enough credit.

[Enid]

This is the scene I was referring to. The whole clip reminds me of a Lords of Acid gig hahah.

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