[Stu]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I understand what you're saying and I agree with you but I think the older people, you included, should be so harsh towards her because we all thought differently when we 13 than we do now.

I don't think I am being harsh at all. I slam her music views. So what? It's hardly destroying her life. People always seem to make the mistake of taking this place way, way too seriously. If she never cops on to her riddiculous some of the things she says are, she will never change them.

It's todays loved up, back patting society that people like George Carlin always talked about, where we give kids medals for coming in last place - leaving no room or motivation for improvement.

[xDramatick]

I don't think she needs to change or improve, just mature on the forum, but that happens naturally within people anyway.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Darenn

I don't think she needs to change or improve, just mature on the forum, but that happens naturally within people anyway.

Ya I kinda agree.
*Thanks back to when I first joined* *shivers*

[Twilight]

Originally Posted by Jessica..

Ya I kinda agree.
*Thanks back to when I first joined* *shivers*

This, OMG i was a mess:/

[Stu]

Exactly [although personally I think change and improvement goes hand in hand with maturing].

[Jessica.]

She did join in June though. She has had 9 months to get the hang of things tbh.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica..

She did join in June though. She has had 9 months to get the hang of things tbh.

To get the hang of things? What does that mean, that everyone has to act a certain way? and don't forget you're 17 Jess she's still only a kid

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

To get the hang of things? What does that mean, that everyone has to act a certain way? and don't forget you're 17 Jess she's still only a kid

I am not talking about age Niamh. I meant to get the hang of the "forum etiquette" kind of.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica..

I am not talking about age Niamh. I meant to get the hang of the "forum etiquette" kind of.

I didn't realise there was such a thing, I just post the way I talk in "real life"

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I didn't realise there was such a thing, I just post the way I talk in "real life"

Deep down there is tbh.
Everyone has certain groups of members in which they feel comfortable, some are wonderers though. MM&I doesn't have much in common with many of the members and she tries to overpower everyone with her love of Leona thinking that will make her friends or she mimics actions of more established members such as posting random song lyrics. She thinks if she proves that Leona is the best artist she will become loved by all. I understand she is really young, way younger than me but she takes everything way too far sometimes and ends up ruining her chances of fitting in even though that is what she is trying to do. It is a vicious circle.

[Twilight]

I'm still a kid and i got the hang of things after like 4 months lol.

[LemonJam]

When I was 13 I wasn't mentally retarded tbh, so you can't blame it on age.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

When I was 13 I wasn't mentally retarded tbh, so you can't blame it on age.

"When I was 13 I had my first love,
there was nobody that compared to my baby
and nobody came between us, no-one could ever come above
She had me going crazy, oh I was star-struck,
she woke me up daily, don't need no Starbucks.

She made my heart pound, I skip a beat when I see her in the street and
at school on the playground but I really wanna see her on the weekend.
She knows she got me dazing cause she was so amazing
and now my heart is breaking but I just keep on saying…."

[Jack_]

Firstly, what did Luva actually say to get him banned?

Secondly, if I remember correctly, I was the first person on here to publicly question her identity. I've since then had people telling me they agree. Whether they are choosing to agree with me for the sake of it or not is irrelevant to me. I'm sticking by what I believe, and I couldn't care less if anyone else agrees or not. Sure, I have cut down on saying it to her on the forum, but that doesn't change my opinion.

It's not my problem if like me, people don't like 'her'. Sure, a collective group of people being nasty to her may be considered as bullying. I have considered that myself. But as far as I'm concerned, I'd still be saying things to her whether other people were or not.

As for my reasons for not liking her, well, I don't believe they are who they say they are & they're pretty ignorant - which is irritating.

Originally Posted by Jessica..

"When I was 13 I had my first love,
there was nobody that compared to my baby
and nobody came between us, no-one could ever come above
She had me going crazy, oh I was star-struck,
she woke me up daily, don't need no Starbucks.

She made my heart pound, I skip a beat when I see her in the street and
at school on the playground but I really wanna see her on the weekend.
She knows she got me dazing cause she was so amazing
and now my heart is breaking but I just keep on saying…."

Good girl

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Good girl

haha I don't like bib's bit though

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

When I was 13 I wasn't mentally retarded tbh, so you can't blame it on age.

Don't call people retarded, it's awful.

[Enid]

I'm more annoyed that luva got banned. Noooo.

[Enid]

I think you have pretty much just described yourself, Jess. I get the impression that you try too hard to fit in. MM&I does not mimic anyone. Since when was posting lyrics actions of a more established member? Come on. You're such an elitist and it is clear you think you're better than a lot of members as well.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Enid

I think you have pretty much just described yourself, Jess. I get the impression that you try too hard to fit in. MM&I does not mimic anyone. Since when was posting lyrics actions of a more established member? Come on. You're such an elitist and it is clear you think you're better than a lot of members as well.

I honestly don't think I'm better than anyone, not in real life and not on TiBB.
I think I'm worthless if you must know.

[Enid]

Originally Posted by Jessica..

I honestly don't think I'm better than anyone, not in real life and not on TiBB.
I think I'm worthless if you must know.

Exact same mentality that a lot of bullies have. Low self opinion, make themselves feel better by picking on someone younger, weaker, less "established".

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Enid

Exact same mentality that a lot of bullies have. Low self opinion, make themselves feel better by picking on someone younger, weaker, less "established".

You just said I thought I was better than her. Have I called her names, have I? The members calling her stupid are bullys. I most certainly am not. I try my best to get on with her a lot of the time, I admit I wind her up about Leona sometimes but I talk to her on MSN every so often. Don't pretend you know everything please.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica..

You just said I thought I was better than her. Have I called her names, have I? The members calling her stupid are bullys. I most certainly am not. I try my best to get on with her a lot of the time, I admit I wind her up about Leona sometimes but I talk to her on MSN every so often. Don't pretend you know everything please.

Look Jess, you know you are one of my favorite people on here but sometimes it does come across as bullying, like telling her not to post lyrics for example, why do you feel like you have the right to tell people what they can or cannot post on a public forum?

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Enid

Exact same mentality that a lot of bullies have. Low self opinion, make themselves feel better by picking on someone younger, weaker, less "established".

Didn't you say awhile ago you would kick a six year old in the face if you thought he deserved it? And you always nag on Patrick for his stupidity.

Bullies don't exist on forums, annoying people do. Nobody on the forum feels superior to anybody else. In fact, the people POINTING THAT OUT are probably themselves trying to feel superior.

Everyone in this thread needs to cop on and take a fucking chill pill. The amount of hypocrisy in this fucking hole is incredible.

[Enid]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Didn't you say awhile ago you would kick a six year old in the face if you thought he deserved it? And you always nag on Patrick for his stupidity.

Bullies don't exist on forums, annoying people do. Nobody on the forum feels superior to anybody else. In fact, the people POINTING THAT OUT are probably themselves trying to feel superior.

Everyone in this thread needs to cop on and take a fucking chill pill. The amount of hypocrisy in this fucking hole is incredible.

You obviously don't understand my humour, if you thought what I said was serious, and *always* nagging? Nah, think that is a bit of an overstatement. Mostly I just ignore his posts, unless he has said something to really irritate me. Same goes to anyone.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Didn't you say awhile ago you would kick a six year old in the face if you thought he deserved it? And you always nag on Patrick for his stupidity.

Bullies don't exist on forums, annoying people do. Nobody on the forum feels superior to anybody else. In fact, the people POINTING THAT OUT are probably themselves trying to feel superior.

Everyone in this thread needs to cop on and take a fucking chill pill. The amount of hypocrisy in this fucking hole is incredible.

This is just the way you see it though Stu. If annoying people can exist than bullies can also exist