[ibook4113]

Did anyone see the behaviouralist on BBLB. She was describing that John James has high emotional lability, meaning that he doesn't entirely understand his emotions - it is the reason he ends up getting very angry or very upset, because he is unsure of what he is feeling.
(Ben by comparison has very low emotional lability, because he understands his emotions, which i means he can be more in control of his reactions to emotions whether they are strong or weak)
It means that while JJ(1) likes Josie, he is still unsure about how he really feels about her. The behaviouralist said that at the moment he sees her very much as a safe person who he can rely on.

What do you think of her observations?

I think that he views Josie as a safe person at the moment, but i think that it could change depending on how comfortable or uncomfortable he feels in the house. I do think John James really cares for her very much, although i am still not sure how much Josie cares about JJ(1).

[fizzy]

Originally Posted by ibook4113

Did anyone see the behaviouralist on BBLB. She was describing that John James has high emotional lability, meaning that he doesn't entirely understand his emotions - it is the reason he ends up getting very angry or very upset, because he is unsure of what he is feeling.
(Ben by comparison has very low emotional lability, because he understands his emotions, which i means he can be more in control of his reactions to emotions whether they are strong or weak)
It means that while JJ(1) likes Josie, he is still unsure about how he really feels about her. The behaviouralist said that at the moment he sees her very much as a safe person who he can rely on.

What do you think of her observations?

I think that he views Josie as a safe person at the moment, but i think that it could change depending on how comfortable or uncomfortable he feels in the house. I do think John James really cares for her very much, although i am still not sure how much Josie cares about JJ(1).

I agree with you. maybe he's in denial?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ibook4113

Did anyone see the behaviouralist on BBLB. She was describing that John James has high emotional lability, meaning that he doesn't entirely understand his emotions - it is the reason he ends up getting very angry or very upset, because he is unsure of what he is feeling.
(Ben by comparison has very low emotional lability, because he understands his emotions, which i means he can be more in control of his reactions to emotions whether they are strong or weak)
It means that while JJ(1) likes Josie, he is still unsure about how he really feels about her. The behaviouralist said that at the moment he sees her very much as a safe person who he can rely on.

What do you think of her observations?

I think that he views Josie as a safe person at the moment, but i think that it could change depending on how comfortable or uncomfortable he feels in the house. I do think John James really cares for her very much, although i am still not sure how much Josie cares about JJ(1).

I think that people say that JJ is leading Josie on but I don't believe she feels any where near for him as he does for her. When he's distressed she seems more bothered about how she looks because of it than his well being where as he really seems to worry about her more.

[fizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I think that people say that JJ is leading Josie on but I don't believe she feels any where near for him as he does for her. When he's distressed she seems more bothered about how she looks because of it than his well being where as he really seems to worry about her more.

That's true. such a shame for John James if true.

[Showstopper]

I think we'd all agree that its really one of two options here. Either John James views Josie in a romantic way or he doesn't. For me the easiest way to explain his behavior is to work backwards. Once you do (in my own humble opinion) the only explanation is that he does indeed have romantic feelings for her

Working from the point of view that he does have romantic feelings for her I believe his behavior can be explained by simple paranoia. Relationships are tough enough in the real world, but for these two you have a few hundred camera's, a few million people, and their friends and family thrown into the mix. Of course John James is paranoid.

Firstly as he has stated on many occasions, he believes the house environment to be fake. This is a fair statement and quite frankly one I agree with. Once out of the house environment, his or Josies feelings could change once back in the real world. Remember they have never been around each other in a normal environment. Because of this he does not want to enter into a relationship within the house, only for it to fall apart once they leave with possibly one or both of them getting hurt, or embarrassed in the process. Lets face it how many BB relationships have stood the test of time

Secondly he has no idea what Josie (or anyone else, but in particular Josie herself) is saying in the diary room. I don't think he believes that she would slag him off or anything, but again, in a show like this their will always be a slight nagging doubt at the back of your mind making you a little paranoid. Can you imagine the embarrassment for him (or anyone) if he was telling her he loved her, was prepared to leave the show rather then upset her, and she was in the diary room calling him a plank

Thirdly, speaking as a man myself, I have never seen a girl affect a guy to this extent before where he was not romantically interested in. Looking at them they act like a couple, when they "snuggle" and when they argue. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, its probably a duck

Now if we look at it from the point of view that John James is not romantically interested in her, for me, his behavior, body language and everything else simply doesn't add up.

[Niamh.]

Great post showstopper, makes sense to me. Like I said before if it is all part of an elaborate game plan for John James then he needs to get himself to Hollywood!!

[Beso]

Thing is though, when they come out the house, JJ's going to australia, josie is going to bristol..Surely as adults they can see there is no future in the relationship, so what is infact the point in not doing anything until outside the house.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Thing is though, when they come out the house, JJ's going to australia, josie is going to bristol..Surely as adults they can see there is no future in the relationship, so what is infact the point in not doing anything until outside the house.

Didn't he say he wanted to live in England though?

[Showstopper]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Great post showstopper, makes sense to me. Like I said before if it is all part of an elaborate game plan for John James then he needs to get himself to Hollywood!!

Thanks. Yes agreed, nobody could keep up an act for that long under 24 hour supervision

Originally Posted by parmnion

Thing is though, when they come out the house, JJ's going to australia, josie is going to bristol..Surely as adults they can see there is no future in the relationship, so what is infact the point in not doing anything until outside the house.

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Didn't he say he wanted to live in England though?

Yes he said he would like to live in England. Ultimately he will be in England post show for all the various BB related stuff that goes on. People move all the time, its not really an obstacle if thats what they want considering they will financially benefit from the BB experience

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Didn't he say he wanted to live in England though?

yes he did, but the conversation I listened to between them insinuated that he was going back to australie because he was asking if she would come over..and then the whole thing with corin saying it costs three grand to post a letter just confirmed it for me..who really knows though!.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

yes he did, but the conversation I listened to between them insinuated that he was going back to australie because he was asking if she would come over..and then the whole thing with corin saying it costs three grand to post a letter just confirmed it for me..who really knows though!.

well no doubt he'll be staying in England for a while after BB anyway, so you never know what could happen...............(not that I'll give a crap once they're not on my telly anymore!!)

[Showstopper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

yes he did, but the conversation I listened to between them insinuated that he was going back to australie because he was asking if she would come over..and then the whole thing with corin saying it costs three grand to post a letter just confirmed it for me..who really knows though!.

His intention as of right now is probably to go back to Australia. But relationships and oppertunities can change intentions very quickly.

He's hardly going to come out and say that he wants to move to England to be with a girl he's not even going out with.

[Showstopper]

Just a quick point on what I was saying in terms of John James's worry over whats being said in the diary room.

When Laura came into the house and said to Josie that John James had said he was worried about leading her on etc in the diary room I thought once Josie confronted him his response was very interesting:

In terms of him saying in the diary romm that he did not view her romantically he said something along the lines of.... he saw her like a sister then he added (almost as a defence)......... "That was weeks ago" - The only reason that the comment "That was weeks ago" would have any relevence to what was being discussed would be if his opinion has since changed. Otherwise the "That was weeks ago" comment makes absolutely no sense

In terms of things being said in the diary room, he stressed numerous times that he would never say anything to slag her off or embatass her in the diary room. Again in my opinion he said this a few times not only to convince Josie but also for reassurance. While he said he was looking straight at her, and making eye contact. He was obviously looking for the "Neither would I" response

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Hope-x

I specifically asked for people who arent opinionated, so please go and abuse someone else.

If people have an opposing viewpoint to your own, it doesn't mean they are not opinionated. And I didn't detect any abuse in angus's post.

My own opinion is that JJ doesn't know what he wants. He doesn't love Josie, even though he keeps saying it, and he certainly isn't interested in her physically. However, he is ultra-aware of the cameras and wants to make sure they stay on him. The bi-polar comment is way off track.

[Hope-x]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

In other words - people who agree with you - not one for debate then!

That is definately not what I meant. I just mean, if your already convinced you LOVE john james, or HATE him, then what you have to say is completely useless! I wanted to hear from people who usually get beaten down when they suggest a new idea.