[Novo]

Originally Posted by happyland

Rangers fans are all

The GSTQ thing isn't a pro English thing.. It's an anti Irish/catolic/celtic thing!

Don't be silly, Rangers fan's are proud of their British routes, their are more suitable songs for the things you mentioned.

[Lee.]

OMFG!! 1966? Are you serious? Nah you can't be!

We have drinking games up here based on how long it takes for footie commentators to mention 1966 during every world cup!

It was 45 years ago! 45 years!

[Novo]

Originally Posted by happyland

OMFG!! 1966? Are you serious? Nah you can't be!

We have drinking games up here based on how long it takes for footie commentators to mention 1966 during every world cup!

It was 45 years ago! 45 years!

I added the 2003 rugby World cup in there and the 2010 Ashes victory in case you started.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Novo

I added the 2003 rugby World cup in there and the 2010 Ashes victory in case you started.

Ahem.. me? starting?

You clearly have me confused with someone else!

[Stu]

My arse. Good lord.

[Locke.]

I have travelled to the other side of the world and back and I'm yet to hear anyone say they don't like England. I have heard plenty say they don't like Ireland, Scotland and Wales though

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Locke.

I have travelled to the other side of the world and back and I'm yet to hear anyone say they don't like England. I have heard plenty say they don't like Ireland, Scotland and Wales though

Really? where about?

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by happyland

Really? where about?

There are too many to mention I can't list them all

[Stu]

Can't have made many stops then.

[Locke.]

Stopped at one in every 2 countries all the way to Australia and back

[Stu]

Originally Posted by happyland

Really? where about?

His just on a wind up.

Seriously though ... not that I agree with the sentiment ... but in plenty of places in Europe before we were actually offered better service/brought meals faster/brought to tables faster when we told them we were Irish, not English.

It's not an uncommon thing to happen. The Irish and Scots in particular are very well liked in most countries as being the alcoholic bastard cousins of the English pricks.

And this is coming from someone who is fully aware of what a cesspool his country is.

Wales on the other hand ... most foreigners I've spoken with seem as of yet unaware of it's existence. Or if they do all they know about the Welsh is that they like talking about how they are ... Welsh. Lets all just get along and mock Wales instead.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Stu

His just on a wind up.

Seriously though ... not that I agree with the sentiment ... but in plenty of places in Europe before we were actually offered better service/brought meals faster/brought to tables faster when we told them we were Irish, not English.
It's not an uncommon thing to happen. The Irish and Scots in particular are very well liked in most countries as being the alcoholic bastard cousins of the English pricks.

And this is coming from someone who is fully aware of what a cesspool his country is.

Wales on the other hand ... most foreigners I've spoken with seem as of yet unaware of it's existence. Or if they do all they know about the Welsh is that they like talking about how they are ... Welsh. Lets all just get along and mock Wales instead.

I'm not saying it's right either,but it definitely happens.. I'm glad somebody else has experienced this!

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by happyland

I'm not saying it's right either,but it definitely happens.. I'm glad somebody else has experienced this!

I have as well, I remember years ago we were in France and our car broke down and we needed to get towed, the guys towing us were being awful until we said we were Irish then their attitude changed instantly.

[Novo]

According to this accurate list the Beatles have out sold everyone by a massive margain

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._music_artists

Niamhxo have you got anything you would like to say?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Novo

According to this accurate list the Beatles have out sold everyone by a massive margain

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._music_artists

Niamhxo have you got anything you would like to say?

yes but but I'm a moderator so I better not

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by happyland

Which part? I'd say it's true that we have never invaded and colonized a third of the world..but I don't really see how that's something to be proud of to be honest and I think zippys apparent pride in this part of Englands history is what pisses people e off.

Oh come on that's ridiculous, you did colonise a quarter of the world because Scotland is part of the UK. Dont know why you think that you're free from responsibility for British Imperialism because your constituent country isnt the biggest. It was not England that had the largest Empire in the world, it was Britain; England, Scotland, Wales and, at that time, Ireland. Plenty of Scots would have fought for the Empire and for colonial forces, it's stupid to pin the whole thing on England

[Stu]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Oh come on that's ridiculous, you did colonise a quarter of the world because Scotland is part of the UK. Dont know why you think that you're free from responsibility for British Imperialism because your constituent country isnt the biggest. It was not England that had the largest Empire in the world, it was Britain; England, Scotland, Wales and, at that time, Ireland. Plenty of Scots would have fought for the Empire and for colonial forces, it's stupid to pin the whole thing on England

That's faulty logic I would say. I can't speak for Wales because I don't know their history, but the majority of Scottish and Irish people resented England and being a part of the British empire back in the day. Why would they be considered part of Englands ills just because that's what it said on paper? England created the British empire. It was Englands empire. Are you telling me Ireland - being that it was a part of Britain - had the biggest empire in the world? Not a chance. Are you telling me they should be part of the blame for the atrocities of the British empire even though they fell to those atrocities themselves? That if England beats you you then get considered part of the problem and should shoulder some of the blame?

It's like saying the Polish were part of the grave threat the axis posed in World War II because Germany overran the place.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Stu

That's faulty logic I would say. I can't speak for Wales because I don't know their history, but the majority of Scottish and Irish people resented England and being a part of the British empire back in the day. Why would they be considered part of Englands ills just because that's what it said on paper? England created the British empire. It was Englands empire. Are you telling me Ireland - being that it was a part of Britain - had the biggest empire in the world? Not a chance. Are you telling me they should be part of the blame for the atrocities of the British empire even though they fell to those atrocities themselves? That if England beats you you then get considered part of the problem and should shoulder some of the blame?

It's like saying the Polish were part of the grave threat the axis posed in World War II because Germany overran the place.

There might have been a greater enthusiasm for Imperialism in England but that doesnt just rid the other constituent countries of any responisiblity, and engaging in finger pointing and pinning the blame fully on England seems a bit petty to me. There were still the same Scottish regiments in the Army fighting for the Empire and furthering Imperialism. I'm not saying it was Ireland's Empire, not at all, but it was Britain's and Shasown made an interesting post recently detailing the importance of Irish forces in the British Army during the Colonial days. To say that "we didnt do it" and "it was England" doesnt really stand up in my eyes, and you cant really fully rid yourself (that's a general you btw, not directed at you personally) of any responsibility, even if it was mainly driven by England. There were several Scottish Prime Ministers during this time after all, couple of Welshman as well

[Harry!]

Originally Posted by Novo

According to this accurate list the Beatles have out sold everyone by a massive margain

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._music_artists

Niamhxo have you got anything you would like to say?

at M at top female

[Novo]

Originally Posted by Harry!

at M at top female

Get to bed you little fart

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Harry!

at M at top female

[Josy]

*Leaves thread quietly to go watch braveheart*

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Josy

*Leaves thread quietly to go watch braveheart*

Spoiler:

[The Human Santapede]

If you go to Australia they hate both the English and the Irish. Many landlords refuse to let houses to both nationalities because we are the heaviest and loudest drinkers who cause the most distruction.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

If you go to Australia they hate both the English and the Irish. Many landlords refuse to let houses to both nationlaities because we are the heaviest and loudest drinkers who cause the most distruction.

Really??And the Scots aren't included in this??

Well I'll be damned