[Harry!]

Originally Posted by Callum

Not saying much considering Poker Face was the biggest selling song of the year in the UK in 2009. BTW peaked at 3 and didn't even make #1 over here, SLY was huge over here then but still Gaga's Bad Romance would have been able to get at least a week at #1 if it had been released in 2011 at the same time. The UK public didn't warm to it like all of her previous hits. Looks like it will be the same with Judas too. Obviously I can't say for sure because the video's not out, she's not done promo etc. but if anything I can see the video turning people against her.

That is so true, When people see that this music video will be another rip off of Madonna's videos (From the basic plot line it is way to similar to Like A Prayer) then more people will be fed up and see what a con artist she is. Plus as it will use Religious Imagery (How origonal ) then it would of corse offend the religious groups. The only people who wont will be mindless teens who think she is original and have not seen how much Gaga has ripped people off.

Adele's album will sell more copies.

[Smithy]

Scott owes me a tenner

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

-gives bj instead-

[ILoveTRW]

Gaga is struggling to even get top 5's with her singles, hopefully Adele will **** all over her.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Scott

-gives bj instead-

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Harry!

That is so true, When people see that this music video will be another rip off of Madonna's videos (From the basic plot line it is way to similar to Like A Prayer)

What is the plotline, because I don't know it

[Stu]

Yeah ... I mean the public only ever turns on artists who sleep with kids.

???

[Harry!]

Originally Posted by Smithy

What is the plotline, because I don't know it

Well at some point Mary Magdalene tries to help a black 'figure' who was recently framed for a crime that he didn't commit. Which is one of the core plotlines in Like A Prayer. Madonna (at first hesitates) tries to help the black Jesus who was framed for assulting a woman.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Harry!

Well at some point Mary Magdalene tries to help a black 'figure' who was recently framed for a crime that he didn't commit. Which is one of the core plotlines in Like A Prayer. Madonna (at first hesitates) tries to help the black Jesus who was framed for assulting a woman.

What the fuck are you talking about, the video has nothing to do with a black figure (unless Judas was black, which I don't think he was, and even if he is he's being played by Norman Reedus) It's about her being inlove with Judas O__O

You talk so much shit it's unreal, it's like you want her to copy her, just so that you can complain

[BB_Eye]

Misunderstood the poll at first, but wouldn't change my choice anyway. Adele is too tacky and X-Factor for the international market.

[Doogle]

It's probably going to be Adele in the UK. I don't even like 21. She can sing but her songs bore me.

GaGa may have gone downhill already but she deserves it more in my opinion.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Harry!

Well at some point Mary Magdalene tries to help a black 'figure' who was recently framed for a crime that he didn't commit. Which is one of the core plotlines in Like A Prayer. Madonna (at first hesitates) tries to help the black Jesus who was framed for assulting a woman.

His not the 'black Jesus' you div. Neither is the statue that comes to life. It's meant to be Martin de Porres, the saint.

I don't know why everyone who sees that video is convinced it's Christ.

[Harry!]

Originally Posted by Smithy

What the fuck are you talking about, the video has nothing to do with a black figure (unless Judas was black, which I don't think he was, and even if he is he's being played by Norman Reedus) It's about her being inlove with Judas O__O

You talk so much shit it's unreal, it's like you want her to copy her, just so that you can complain

Oh no it's a white figure, she wouldn't want to offend too many with a black figure would she? And also there is love in the LAP music video as well.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Harry!

Oh no it's a white figure, she wouldn't want to offend too many with a black figure would she? And also there is love in the LAP music video as well.

WTF are you talking about! How would having a black figure in her video offend people?!

I actually cannot, everything you post in the music section is retarded, you should be banned from it

[Chuck]

Adele.

[Harry!]

Originally Posted by Smithy

WTF are you talking about! How would having a black figure in her video offend people?!

I actually cannot, everything you post in the music section is retarded, you should be banned from it

Because it is a religiously aimed video and it could provoke religious groups who assotiate the man with being white.

And why should I be banned from the music section just because a few points I make are a little off tangent? I have a right to post where I want and so do you.

[Stu]

This is so entertaining in some morbid, hope destroying sort of way.

[Smithy]

Im not even gonna bother

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Stu

This is so entertaining in some morbid, hope destroying sort of way.

My toy is better than your toy!!!!!!!!!!!

[Callum]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Poker Face was released AFTER it had a video out, stuff like that always makes a difference, plus she was all over UK TV and radio promoting. I don't see how the public didn't warm to it when you look at it's sales and the amount of airplay it's still getting on the radio. The public won't turn against her, she's not Gary Glitter as long as she makes good music, people don't care.

Not always it doesn't. Just look at LoveGame, that had a video out before it's release and it only scraped the top 20. Born This Way has had plenty of airplay, it's on the radio a lot and I always see the video on TV. She may not have promoted it over here apart from radio interviews, but the song has been easily accessible through radio and TV. It's been hard to miss it. Some may have warmed to it but a large majority haven't, the general feeling was that it wasn't as good as her previous singles. Die hard fans love it of course but the general buying public didn't warm to it like they did Poker Face, Bad Romance, Paparazzi and Bad Romance. She's already lost a load of fans with this era alone, she'll still have a big fanbase yes, but from the sound of this Judas video, it's likely she'll lose a lot more. She's pushing the boundaries with her religious fans. Singing about loving Judas, the man who betrayed Jesus Christ, is already appalling enough but portraying the Bible in the music video and giving religion more bad publicity is a bit much even for Gaga.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Callum

Not always it doesn't. Just look at LoveGame, that had a video out before it's release and it only scraped the top 20. Born This Way has had plenty of airplay, it's on the radio a lot and I always see the video on TV. She may not have promoted it over here apart from radio interviews, but the song has been easily accessible through radio and TV. It's been hard to miss it. Some may have warmed to it but a large majority haven't, the general feeling was that it wasn't as good as her previous singles. Die hard fans love it of course but the general buying public didn't warm to it like they did Poker Face, Bad Romance, Paparazzi and Bad Romance. She's already lost a load of fans with this era alone, she'll still have a big fanbase yes, but from the sound of this Judas video, it's likely she'll lose a lot more. She's pushing the boundaries with her religious fans. Singing about loving Judas, the man who betrayed Jesus Christ, is already appalling enough but portraying the Bible in the music video and giving religion more bad publicity is a bit much even for Gaga.

I concur. I can't see how the video will help win her many new fans, but will turn some against her. Silly woman, she had the world at her hands but is pushing controvesy too far and in way that isn't groundbreaking, clever or unique.

[Locke.]

Neither. It is all about Bobby V - Fly on the Wall this year

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Callum

Not always it doesn't. Just look at LoveGame, that had a video out before it's release and it only scraped the top 20. Born This Way has had plenty of airplay, it's on the radio a lot and I always see the video on TV. She may not have promoted it over here apart from radio interviews, but the song has been easily accessible through radio and TV. It's been hard to miss it. Some may have warmed to it but a large majority haven't, the general feeling was that it wasn't as good as her previous singles. Die hard fans love it of course but the general buying public didn't warm to it like they did Poker Face, Bad Romance, Paparazzi and Bad Romance. She's already lost a load of fans with this era alone, she'll still have a big fanbase yes, but from the sound of this Judas video, it's likely she'll lose a lot more. She's pushing the boundaries with her religious fans. Singing about loving Judas, the man who betrayed Jesus Christ, is already appalling enough but portraying the Bible in the music video and giving religion more bad publicity is a bit much even for Gaga.

LoveGame....the 4th single (in the UK) from an album which had sold over a million copies, yeah Im soooo shocked it didn't get any higher.

I still don't see your point, if people haven't warmed to it why has is sold so well, it's had steady sales since it's release and it's likely the song will sell another 50/100k by the end of the year. I don't see how she's lost fans, either, just because she's released a song some people aren't too keen on doesn't mean they dislike her as an artist, it just means that they dislike a song she's released And tbh, "religious" fans should be more bothered about whats actually happening within the church, GaGa's released a new single and a belgian bishops just admitted to molesting his nephews, which do you think people are more pissed about?

And I don't see how people can complain about the video when they haven't seen it, 90% of the time rumors floating around about vidoes are wrong

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Yeah, that was just me speculating

Damn.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Smithy

LoveGame....the 4th single (in the UK) from an album which had sold over a million copies, yeah Im soooo shocked it didn't get any higher.

I still don't see your point, if people haven't warmed to it why has is sold so well, it's had steady sales since it's release and it's likely the song will sell another 50/100k by the end of the year. I don't see how she's lost fans, either, just because she's released a song some people aren't too keen on doesn't mean they dislike her as an artist, it just means that they dislike a song she's released And tbh, "religious" fans should be more bothered about whats actually happening within the church, GaGa's released a new single and a belgian bishops just admitted to molesting his nephews, which do you think people are more pissed about?

And I don't see how people can complain about the video when they haven't seen it, 90% of the time rumors floating around about vidoes are wrong

That's like when you go on about an album and overhype it without hearing it, works both ways.