[Ramsay]

MTVN is right
who cares how sick or twisted it is
its still just a movie
if an adult wants to watch it they should have every right

[Stu]

I wonder how many people who support this film being banned watch The X-Factor, Britain's Got Talent or any other choice production from the mind numbing, endless slew of garbage that passes for television these days.

This film certainly sounds sick but is it going to cause greater harm to our culture than any of that dribbling shit? No. It's largely the focus of curiosity for barely sentient, overweight nerds who simply want to see this extreme stuff - and will anyway - to brag about it as a badge of honor.

[CharlieO]

In these days of piracy they know banning the film will not stop people from watching it all together but by banning it they just encourage it less which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[Jords]

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[Stu]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

In these days of piracy they know banning the film will not stop people from watching it all together but by banning it they just encourage it less which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Knowing a film like this is banned will encourage people even more to see it.

All we are encouraging is censorship. Yay censorship!

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Stu

Knowing a film like this is banned will encourage people even more to see it.

All we are encouraging is censorship. Yay censorship!

Singapore is like censorship city. You have to be over 21 to watch a film that has any gay/lesbian references in at all.

Also all films get edited to take the 'bad stuff' out.
American pie is banned from the cinemas and on the movie channels at like 1am didn't make sense they cut so much out. Just an example and american pie isn't even that bad.

Also all porn is blocked island-wide by all internet providers as the government makes them.

I dont support censorship at all.

[Marsh.]

I don't think the BBFC is stopping people from watching it. They couldn't care less about piracy or people's other means of purchasing it. They just don't want it available or find it suitable for mainstream cinema distribution. Which I agree with.

They're not controlling what people are watching but they have an obligation to give you warnings and a rundown of what to expect from a film. So, basically saying they won't even give it an 18 or any kind of a certificate should warn people how bad it is.

From the sounds of it, there's no real story or "art" to be had here just a feature length run of torture porn.

And there is nothing in the world that would ever make me want to watch this crap.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I don't think the BBFC is stopping people from watching it. They couldn't care less about piracy or people's other means of purchasing it. They just don't want it available or find it suitable for mainstream cinema distribution. Which I agree with.

They're not controlling what people are watching but they have an obligation to give you warnings and a rundown of what to expect from a film. So, basically saying they won't even give it an 18 or any kind of a certificate should warn people how bad it is.

From the sounds of it, there's no real story or "art" to be had here just a feature length run of torture porn.

And there is nothing in the world that would ever make me want to watch this crap.

I agree. There needs to be a line drawn somewhere. By the sounds of it, this movie is more of a bizarre porn fetish type movie rather than a horror anyway, I can't even imagine the type of person that would want to watch it and I for one, am glad that it's being banned and will be much more difficult for kids to accidentally stumble across.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

If the film is legal then there is more of a chance of young people getting their hands on it, it's sounds absolutely revolting and the risk of a child watching it is not worth it imo

Man, you would have loved the Soviet Union.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I don't think the BBFC is stopping people from watching it. They couldn't care less about piracy or people's other means of purchasing it. They just don't want it available or find it suitable for mainstream cinema distribution. Which I agree with.

You're essentially siding with Fascism then.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I agree. There needs to be a line drawn somewhere. By the sounds of it, this movie is more of a bizarre porn fetish type movie rather than a horror anyway, I can't even imagine the type of person that would want to watch it and I for one, am glad that it's being banned and will be much more difficult for kids to accidentally stumble across.

If children get access to anything like this then it's the parent's fault. The government isn't a parental figure and by using that excuse you're only endorsing censorship. This film will have the same appeal as stuff like 2 girls 1 Cup, something disgusting yes but nobody will watch it and take it seriously, people would watch it for a dare and stuff like that. It's too repulsive to actually do harm.

Let people who are old enough decide what they want to watch, it's up to the parents to keep an eye and what their kids are watching, No parent would pick up a film like Human Centipede and mistake it for a Disney film. We've got ratings for a reason.

[Zippy]

Reminds me to watch the first one. Downloaded it months ago still not watched.

I don't think the BBFC kid themselves they can actually ban films these days. Its more a case of them refusing to legitamise it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by letmein

Man, you would have loved the Soviet Union.

Woman*

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If children get access to anything like this then it's the parent's fault. The government isn't a parental figure and by using that excuse you're only endorsing censorship. This film will have the same appeal as stuff like 2 girls 1 Cup, something disgusting yes but nobody will watch it and take it seriously, people would watch it for a dare and stuff like that. It's too repulsive to actually do harm.

Let people who are old enough decide what they want to watch, it's up to the parents to keep an eye and what their kids are watching, No parent would pick up a film like Human Centipede and mistake it for a Disney film. We've got ratings for a reason.

I haven't watched 2 girls 1 cup but from what I've heard about both that and the HC2, the only similarities, are that they're both gross. The reasons the BBFC gave for banning the HC2 wasn't because it was disgusting, it was because the only view the film gives is that of the protagonist and his pleasure in abusing and torturing his victims and doesn't gave the victims any sort of character or humanity, only that they are things to be abused. I stand by my opinion that lines need to be drawn somewhere and I think they made a good call on this one.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I haven't watched 2 girls 1 cup but from what I've heard about both that and the HC2, the only similarities, are that they're both gross. The reasons the BBFC gave for banning the HC2 wasn't because it was disgusting, it was because the only view the film gives is that of the protagonist and his pleasure in abusing and torturing his victims and doesn't gave the victims any sort of character or humanity, only that they are things to be abused. I stand by my opinion that lines need to be drawn somewhere and I think they made a good call on this one.

I think at the end of the day it's a work of fiction and we shouldn't get our knickers in a twist over something as trivial as a film. The protagonist and his victims are actors, it isn't real. Why treat it like it is? It's a silly shock flick that, by banning it, is only making it notorious which will only tempt people into watching it to see if it's really as bad as it's made out to be. Banning it is pretty much an advertisement for this type of film.

By accepting the ban we're giving in to censorship, which is never acceptable. Adults should be allowed to be able to chose whether they want to watch. There's no reason for a nanny state.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I think at the end of the day it's a work of fiction and we shouldn't get our knickers in a twist over something as trivial as a film. The protagonist and his victims are actors, it isn't real. Why treat it like it is? It's a silly shock flick that, by banning it, is only making it notorious which will only tempt people into watching it to see if it's really as bad as it's made out to be. Banning it is pretty much an advertisement for this type of film.

By accepting the ban we're giving in to censorship, which is never acceptable. Adults should be allowed to be able to chose whether they want to watch. There's no reason for a nanny state.

Well, I believe (in this case for example) sometimes censorship is necessary.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, I believe (in this case for example) sometimes censorship is necessary.

Why? It's a fictional film with some gruesome content, nobody would have been forced to watch it and if it was released it would have undoubtedly been an 18 so kids couldn't get their hands on it unless an adult got it for them and anyone with common sense would know that it isn't suitable for that age group. I literally cannot see a reason why censorship would be necessary, let people make up their own minds.

[Scarlett.]

The cut version opened in 10 cinemas to £900, here's the cuts the BBFC made
"Company was required to make 32 individual cuts to scenes of sexual and sexualised violence, sadistic violence and humiliation, and a child presented in an abusive and violent context. In this case, cuts included: a man masturbating with sandpaper around his penis; graphic sight of a man's teeth being removed with a hammer; graphic sight of lips being stapled to naked buttocks; graphic sight of forced defecation into and around other people's mouths; a man with barbed wire wrapped around his penis raping a woman; a newborn baby being killed; graphic sight of injury as staples are torn away from individuals' mouth and buttocks. Cuts required in accordance with BBFC Guidelines, policy and the Video Recordings Act 1984."

Aside from that apparently after the midpoint there is zero story and the film is basically about eating ****....yeah, Tom Six is one ****ed up guy

[King Gizzard]

Originally Posted by Chewy

The cut version opened in 10 cinemas to £900, here's the cuts the BBFC made
"Company was required to make 32 individual cuts to scenes of sexual and sexualised violence, sadistic violence and humiliation, and a child presented in an abusive and violent context. In this case, cuts included: a man masturbating with sandpaper around his penis; graphic sight of a man's teeth being removed with a hammer; graphic sight of lips being stapled to naked buttocks; graphic sight of forced defecation into and around other people's mouths; a man with barbed wire wrapped around his penis raping a woman; a newborn baby being killed; graphic sight of injury as staples are torn away from individuals' mouth and buttocks. Cuts required in accordance with BBFC Guidelines, policy and the Video Recordings Act 1984."

Aside from that apparently after the midpoint there is zero story and the film is basically about eating ****....yeah, Tom Six is one ****ed up guy

Think he's watched serbian film one too many times

[Scarlett.]

It's pathetic how he tries to pass off this film as art, the first one could be classed as art, since it was a film about what we don't actually see. This one is just disgusting

[King Gizzard]

I was scared at Signs, I can't imagine how i'd be in a film like ths

[Bollo]

Don't give a toss if its banned or not, if the first one is anything to go by i'd rather watch paint dry.... snoozefest... 0/10

[Niamh.]

I hate when this thread gets bumped, I haven't seen either film but after reading what they're about, I feel sick for days after :/