[lostalex]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I don't really know what to think about this. I mean 5 years old is too young to "diagnose" him with anything. Yes, let him fantasise about things and dress in clothes that he wants. Then he'll either grow out of the phase or make his decision when he's older but he's not of an age where he knows anything about life in general or life as a man or a woman so I find it ridiculous.

and what do you know about being a man or a woman? cause last time i checked there are infinite variations, arn't all men and women individuals??

[Jords]

There are differences between a typical male and typical female brain I didnt word that very good. But I think majoritively thats to do with nuture rather than nature. Also gay and lesbian people behave stereotypically as the opposite sex - does it mean a stereotypical gay man has a female brain and a stereotypical lesbian woman has a male brain? Why arnt they transgender?

I honestly believe transgenders are just extreme transvestites/tomboys that latch on to the idea and convince themselves they must be the opposite sex. Or are gay/lesbian but unconsciously rejecting their sexuality and seek an alternate option... being transgender.

Maybe an ignorant view. Maybe a wrong view. But its my opinion on what I know of it.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Jords

There are differences between a typical male and typical female brain I didnt word that very good. But I think majoritively thats to do with nuture rather than nature. Also gay and lesbian people behave stereotypically as the opposite sex - does it mean a stereotypical gay man has a female brain and a stereotypical lesbian woman has a male brain? Why arnt they transgender?

I honestly believe transgenders are just extreme transvestites/tomboys that latch on to the idea and convince themselves they must be the opposite sex. Or are gay/lesbian but unconsciously rejecting their sexuality and seek an alternate option... being transgender.

Maybe an ignorant view. Maybe a wrong view. But its my opinion on what I know of it.

really? gay/lesbian's act stereotypically? so i guess you have lived up to all of the stereotypes for your gender as a heterosexual??? You have been the ideal child for your parents have you? i guess you perfectly matched all stereotypes of a heterosexual in your life, just to make your parents proud. well how wonderful, and you want to impose that same standard on your kids???? REALLY?


so you would only be happy with a "typical" male or female child?

how boring/base


(at least you admit your wrongness and ignorance in your post, i'll give you credit for that)

[Jords]

Originally Posted by lostalex

really? gay/lesbian's act stereotypically? so i guess you have lived up to all of the stereotypes for your gender as a heterosexual??? You have been the ideal child for your parents have you? i guess you perfectly matched all stereotypes of a heterosexual in your life, just to make your parents proud. well how wonderful, and you want to impose that same standard on your kids???? REALLY?


so you would only be happy with a "typical" male or female child?

how boring/base


(at least you admit your wrongness and ignorance in your post, i'll give you credit for that)

Youre a boob.

My example was OF A stereotypical gay man/woman. I did not say all gay men/women act stereotypically.

Dont get offended over something not offensive.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Jords

Youre a boob.

My example was OF A stereotypical gay man/woman. I did not say all gay men/women act stereotypically.

Dont get offended over something not offensive.

i'm not offended. it's just a response. I apologize if I assumed anything, i don't think i did though.

this is a child that loks happy and healthy, so i think everyone should BUTT OUT.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i'm not offended. it's just a response. I apologize if I assumed anything, i don't think i did though.

this is a child that loks happy and healthy, so i think everyone should BUTT OUT.

We were talking about male/female brains. I used a stereotypical gay man as an example to suggest do they have a female brain? And a stereotypical lesbian woman as an example to suggest do they have a male brain? I personally dont think they do as I think its more to do with nuture than nature why brains differ.

Therefore I dont believe a man can be trapped in a woman's body and vice-versa. Thus I dont believe in transgender. I believe they think they are but thats it.

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Jords

There are differences between a typical male and typical female brain I didnt word that very good. But I think majoritively thats to do with nuture rather than nature. Also gay and lesbian people behave stereotypically as the opposite sex - does it mean a stereotypical gay man has a female brain and a stereotypical lesbian woman has a male brain? Why arnt they transgender?

I honestly believe transgenders are just extreme transvestites/tomboys that latch on to the idea and convince themselves they must be the opposite sex. Or are gay/lesbian but unconsciously rejecting their sexuality and seek an alternate option... being transgender.

Maybe an ignorant view. Maybe a wrong view. But its my opinion on what I know of it.

I agree Jords.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jords

There are differences between a typical male and typical female brain I didnt word that very good. But I think majoritively thats to do with nuture rather than nature. Also gay and lesbian people behave stereotypically as the opposite sex - does it mean a stereotypical gay man has a female brain and a stereotypical lesbian woman has a male brain? Why arnt they transgender?

I honestly believe transgenders are just extreme transvestites/tomboys that latch on to the idea and convince themselves they must be the opposite sex. Or are gay/lesbian but unconsciously rejecting their sexuality and seek an alternate option... being transgender.

Maybe an ignorant view. Maybe a wrong view. But its my opinion on what I know of it.

I've wondered that. Whether a lot of them are people who don't like the "gay" tag and so think they should be the opposite sex.

But I think the gender disorder can sometimes have nothing to do with their sexuality. I mean there was a woman in the paper's who was a straight woman but wanted to be a man, thus making her a gay man. It is confusing.

I still can't quite believe this 5 year old though. I mean one of my cousins went through a small phase of playing with dolls when he was 4 or 5. His mates always poke fun after they saw photos. But he's grown up, got married and had kids. What if they'd slapped a tag on him at 4 years of age? Just a disgrace, the parents should be ashamed.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I've wondered that. Whether a lot of them are people who don't like the "gay" tag and so think they should be the opposite sex.

But I think the gender disorder can sometimes have nothing to do with their sexuality. I mean there was a woman in the paper's who was a straight woman but wanted to be a man, thus making her a gay man. It is confusing.

I still can't quite believe this 5 year old though. I mean one of my cousins went through a small phase of playing with dolls when he was 4 or 5. His mates always poke fun after they saw photos. But he's grown up, got married and had kids. What if they'd slapped a tag on him at 4 years of age? Just a disgrace, the parents should be ashamed.

I dont think its as simply as 'I dont wanna be gay, I must be a woman' thought. I think its deep down in the unconscious that they have decided they cant possibly be or dont want to be known as gay/lesbian and they need another option for their behaviour and thoughts, and thats being transgender.

And Ive heard many cases about that. It is really confusing and perhaps its something much more complex I dunno. But my suggestion is that perhaps a straight tomboy is so masculine they latch onto the idea of being transgender and convince theirself they must be but as they are straight it means theyd become a gay man. When maybe they just cant accept that they are just a masculine woman. In their head its not right. Or something.

Completely agree with your last comment
Its not that unusual at all really. They have took it too far. Maybe they wanted a daughter :S

[Marsh.]

Where's lostalex's post gone?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Where's lostalex's post gone?

it's on the last page. why are you asking? Who are you? Why are you so worried about my posts?????

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

it's on the last page. why are you asking? Who are you? Why are you so worried about my posts?????

Who am I? You have a short memory.

I'm not worried, just wondered where it had gone because when I refreshed the page the second page was added and I hadn't read your reply.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Who am I? You have a short memory.

obviously. you sound friendly though, so i think i should be embarrassed to not know. yur not on my friends list though...

add me so i can remember.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

obviously. you sound friendly though, so i think i should be embarrassed to not know. yur not on my friends list though...

I've changed my signature. Maybe that's why. We've had a few... ahem... "run-ins".

[Harry!]

If I was gender confused I would not want a sex change op because you were, escuse the cleshé, born that way, and I am sure there are other alternative options you could use. There is also the possibility that you might have future regrets and it will be too late to change your mind.