[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I bet these same people justifying criminal action for this guy posting in his dark bedroom, are the same people that defend Gary Mckinnon, and other UK internet users that are being extradited to the US...

hmmm, interesting hipocrisy.

Don't turn this thread into another America V's Europe/UK ordeal Alex

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Don't turn this thread into another America V's Europe/UK ordeal Alex

I'm American, obviously i'm gong to be offering an AMERICAN perspective, that can't be helped.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I'm American, obviously i'm gong to be offering an AMERICAN perspective, that can't be helped.

There are people from the UK disagreeing with the guys arrest as well, it's not just an American idea it seems and I would guess that alot of Americans would agree with his arrest also, I'm pretty sure all of you don't think the same way.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

There are people from the UK disagreeing with the guys arrest as well, it's not just an American idea it seems and I would guess that alot of Americans would agree with his arrest also, I'm pretty sure all of you don't think the same way.

That is certainly true, but i have an American perspective in the sense that i'm more familiar with the American legal system and live under American laws. I'm obviously less familiar with European laws and it's justice system. That;'s all i meant by having an American perspective, and i can't help but compare the 2 systems from MY perspective here.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

There are people from the UK disagreeing with the guys arrest as well, it's not just an American idea it seems and I would guess that alot of Americans would agree with his arrest also, I'm pretty sure all of you don't think the same way.

99% of Americans would not agree with someone being arrested for Speech. That's just a given in America. The only thing that's deemed a federal crime, is making a comment about assassinating the President.

I don't like anyone dictating to me what I can and can't say, especially government. We've seen where this leads throughout history, but I digress. If Brits want to live this lifestyle, so be it.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I bet these same people justifying criminal action for this guy posting in his dark bedroom, are the same people that defend Gary Mckinnon, and other UK internet users that are being extradited to the US...

hmmm, interesting hipocrisy.

Supposition.

[Marc]

There's no rationalising with you

[thesheriff443]

freedom of speach!
you only have to look at what hitler did with it,
to know left unchecked what it can do!

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

freedom of speach!
you only have to look at what hitler did with it,
to know left unchecked what it can do!

Like this guy was gonna be as destructive as Hitler.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

Like this guy was gonna be as destructive as Hitler.

let one spread hatred and others will follow,
how long before these low lifes take it further than just talking!

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

let one spread hatred and others will follow,
how long before these low lifes take it further than just talking!

When they take it further then that's when they should be arrested in my view,unless they threatened to kill him of course.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

let one spread hatred and others will follow,
how long before these low lifes take it further than just talking!

Open a history book, and research the Soviet Union.

Also research "Goodwin's Law". And while we at it, get a spell checker. That is all.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

freedom of speach!
you only have to look at what hitler did with it,
to know left unchecked what it can do!

but Mien Kampf is still on sale in british book shops is it not?

[fruit_cake]

Sometimes I think by trying to muzzle these people up you just make them angrier, and justify their hated. They end up doing something far worse than just posting a message on twitter.

What this man said is appalling but maybe he needs to be left to say it, because ultimately somebody as ignorant as that invariably ends up looking like a fool if they are left to speak for too long.

As things stand he's going to be made into a martyr for Racists everywhere if he's arrested in my view.

[Mystic Mock]

I agree with you Fruit Cake.

[Kizzy]

To be fair words can do an awful lot of harm, it may sound funny laughing about hitler but propaganda if a powerful tool.
Look at the EDL and BNP they whip ignorant people into a frenzy of hate.

[Boothy]

I saw Chels (from this forum) tweet that he went to the same school as her or something. Seemed like a proper knobhead.

His account's been deleted now but I've found a screenshot of some of his tweets.

[InOne]

I think it's good he's been arrested, relentless trolls like this are the ones that make kids kill themselves and stuff and get away with it. It's good to make an example of him.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by InOne

I think it's good he's been arrested, relentless trolls like this are the ones that make kids kill themselves and stuff and get away with it. It's good to make an example of him.

Yes exactly Joe. Bullying and abusing someone like that in person would not be tolerated so I don't understand why people think that it's acceptable to do it while hiding behind their computer.

[GypsyGoth]

He seems like a scumbag.

[lostalex]

he's clearly in the middle of an angry argument. i don't see him inciting violence against anyone. He's not encouraging white people to go attack black people, he's talking to a specific person, clearly very emotional and angry and just trying to attack this one person he's talking to.

It's ridiculous that he'd be arrested for this kind of thing, You can hear worse than this on almost any youtube flamefest.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

he's clearly in the middle of an angry argument. i don't see him inciting violence against anyone. He's not encouraging white people to go attack black people, he's talking to a specific person, clearly very emotional and angry and just trying to attack this one person he's talking to.

It's ridiculous that he'd be arrested for this kind of thing, You can hear worse than this on almost any youtube flamefest.

That's a good point, I think because people are still pretty emotional about Muamba, so it makes it seems that what he's doing is something much worse than it is.

[Niall]

I agree that the remarks he made were disgusting, but to arrest him for exercising his right to free speech is the start of a slippery slope. Maybe ban him from Twitter, but arresting him is waaay too far.

[lostalex]

We see a new racist tram lady every week on youtube, how many of them are in jail??

[thesheriff443]

just beacuse others are not in jail it dont make it right.