[fitz2k2]

You know the sad part scott n ash don't have the balls to apologize to deana who hasn't done anything to them

[MatthewS]

Agree with a lot of the things said in this thread. BB has turned way too PC. Even anything that's borderline is being called out. It's ruining the show.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I think it is really sad that you dont understand what I mean. In future I will consult my world Atlas and all manner of books, PC correct anuals and I will phone a friend before posting. That way you wont need to cherry pick my futile little posts so you can poke fun at them.

A man with a white stick and a big fluffy dog could understand that post. Oh bloody hell shes going to call in the royal soc for the blind now. When will I learn.

Stop trying to act all highly and mighty
Because you're not

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Salman!

Stop trying to act all highly and mighty
Because you're not

Ill make a deal with you, Ill stop acting like a dick if you do the same. Deal.

[TOXICHUNK]

How is deana backstabbing? That's the most hilarious thing I have seen in days!

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Where the hell do you think China is ?
The very fact that you refer to 'Asians' and 'Chinese' as two different races comes across as very ignorant to me!

he didnt say they were different races? youre pretending to be offended imho, cheap shot

[jet]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I agree with Sampvt ,talk about double standards it's OK to mimic people's accents as long as they're the right sort of accents, wouldn't want to stray down the path of political incorrectness. OMG I think it's time to hit the OFF switch, BB is making it up as they go along. They're probably so paranoid about upsetting the wrong demographic groups, the PC groups , the Sponsors, the Advertisers, the rules have become totally dependent on the prevailing mood of the day. They need to allow the housemates room to breathe, be expressive, get angry , be funny whatever..... But the second it's interpreted as potentially offensive then their pulled up for it. Fine ! But how about a bit of consistency , let everyone know where the lines are and keep them there. Not change the rules on an almost daily basis.... Don't know how much more of this current series I can take...!!!!!!!!!

GREAT POST! It's the lack of consistency that bothers me. Conor got away VERY lightly with something he should have been kicked out for at the time. Caroline got away with her snide and bullying behaviour for WEEKS while Becky is as bad in her own way and has NEVER been reprimanded.
Now Scott (who as a rule doesn't bitch about HM's) has been given an official warning for making a fairly innocuous remark, and Ashleigh has been warned for 'excluding people, humiliating them and using sarcasm'!!!
OMG.
Meanwhile, BB humiliates Luke S, sets Adam up to be excluded by showing him giving opinions when he doesn't know the other HM's are watching etc etc....and BOTS gives a voice to people who frequently make fun of and ridicule the HM's every night non stop.
Make up your mind BB Channel 5.
I am personally dead against racism and bullying. But where BB is concerned this series they are all over the place and it's just a total mess. There seem to be no clear rules - it's a case of one HM can get away with murder but another can't.
What a ridiculous farce it is turning out to be.

[TIGHAMADAN]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I agree in part,but lets never forget the times a day Deana tells us she a victim ,how many times has she said Conor doesnt like her or speak to her, yet SHE nominates him every week and doesnt speak to him either, the fake cow is playing a blinder ,shes got this in the bag on PITY not merit ,makes me sick to think people are so gulible to fall for her weel planned rubbish

She has the same publicist as Shilpa Shetty you know.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by TIGHAMADAN

She has the same publicist as Shilpa Shetty you know.

really??? hmmmmmm play the victim all day long

[jet]

Originally Posted by MatthewS

Agree with a lot of the things said in this thread. BB has turned way too PC. Even anything that's borderline is being called out. It's ruining the show.

I agree...except for Conor's rant about Deena - he should have been removed from the house pronto. I feel that BB has been coming down harder on the other HM's ever since to compensate for not having acted properly against him.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by jet

GREAT POST! It's the lack of consistency that bothers me. Conor got away VERY lightly with something he should have been kicked out for at the time. Caroline got away with her snide and bullying behaviour for WEEKS while Becky is as bad in her own way and has NEVER been reprimanded.
Now Scott (who as a rule doesn't bitch about HM's) has been given an official warning for making a fairly innocuous remark, and Ashleigh has been warned for 'excluding people, humiliating them and using sarcasm'!!!
OMG.
Meanwhile, BB humiliates Luke S, sets Adam up to be excluded by showing him giving opinions when he doesn't know the other HM's are watching etc etc....and BOTS gives a voice to people who frequently make fun of and ridicule the HM's every night non stop.
Make up your mind BB Channel 5.
I am personally dead against racism and bullying. But where BB is concerned this series they are all over the place and it's just a total mess. There seem to be no clear rules - it's a case of one HM can get away with murder but another can't.
What a ridiculous farce it is turning out to be.

it didnt seem that nasty by scott , his dad did actually own a restaurant it was an anecdote of sorts. if he had stopped short saying she eats with her hands it may be ok, but to generalize about all doing it is wrong, although when deana said that about men, no one said a thing, I was very offended by that

[jet]

Originally Posted by the truth

it didnt seem that nasty by scott , his dad did actually own a restaurant it was an anecdote of sorts. if he had stopped short saying she eats with her hands it may be ok, but to generalize about all doing it is wrong, although when deana said that about men, no one said a thing, I was very offended by that

Yes, I think Scott was making an observation that he believed to be factual. I have Indian friends who eat with their hands all the time. Fact. I don't know if ALL Indians do this, but the ones I know do in my experience. I wouldn't take kindly to be branded as racist for saying so. If I was told not all Indians do this, then I would adjust my thinking. It's no big deal for God's sake.
I wonder if someone told Conor he must like potatoes because he's Irish would they be called racist.
And I happen to agree with you about what Deana said about men...but that's okay...being PC doesn't extent to men apparently.

[ElProximo]

Mods:
Report half these people for offensive and insulting racist posts. I have seen half-a-dozen now 'dehumanizing' and referring to entirely different races of people as 'Asians'. In fact, I am sick of hearing this all over the UK.
Its very degrading and 'racist' as if somehow 'everyone east of Europe' are somehow all the 'those Asians'.
So Pakistanis and Japanese are now somehow 'those Asians'.

In North America and in China we refer to 'Asians' as (what evolutionists once called 'Mongoloids') but as Japanese, Chinese, Korean,
and,
Therefore, using my definition as the standard I have now worked out all you Brits saying 'Asians' are therefore RACISTS!
And now you have been warned about that racism and bigotry you ARE GUILTY of if you ever called everyone else 'asians'.

See how this works? Get this yet? See what I did? Well that is what YOU PC police are doing.
Now its done to you. Racists.

*Duly note: I have also seen Mods here using the term (which I deemed racist) 'Asians' in this derogatory way (i made it derogatory see?),
so,
Warn yourselves.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by the truth

he didnt say they were different races? youre pretending to be offended imho, cheap shot

When did i say i was offended ?
I was just amazed that he was trying to prove the point that something wasn't offensive and/or racially stereotypical while bringing up a different racial stereotype himself.
He was clearly calling one race of people 'Asians' (which i'm assuming were actually Indians in this case) and another group as 'Chinese' when infact both races he was talking about were Asians.

It does really offend me though when people try to defend the unacceptably offensive/racially stereotypical behaviour of people like Ashleigh and Scott though!
If people didn't find that offensive or don't think what Ashleigh and Scott said was wrong then they clearly either didn't understand what they said or they must share their ignorant and racially stereotypical opinions.

I just added this bit as i noticed El Proximo's post just before mine.
He's made the very point i was referring to and he probably made it with greater clarity than i did. Nice work El Proximo!
I'm from the UK by the way and never refer to people as 'Asians' in this derogatory fashion so please don't think we're all that ignorant (a LOT are, but not all by any means).

[Raph]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Mods:

Its very degrading and 'racist' as if somehow 'everyone east of Europe' are somehow all the 'those Asians'.
So Pakistanis and Japanese are now somehow 'those Asians'.

Thank you, you always speak a lot of sense ElProximo!

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Mods:
Report half these people for offensive and insulting racist posts. I have seen half-a-dozen now 'dehumanizing' and referring to entirely different races of people as 'Asians'. In fact, I am sick of hearing this all over the UK.
Its very degrading and 'racist' as if somehow 'everyone east of Europe' are somehow all the 'those Asians'.
So Pakistanis and Japanese are now somehow 'those Asians'.

In North America and in China we refer to 'Asians' as (what evolutionists once called 'Mongoloids') but as Japanese, Chinese, Korean,
and,
Therefore, using my definition as the standard I have now worked out all you Brits saying 'Asians' are therefore RACISTS!
And now you have been warned about that racism and bigotry you ARE GUILTY of if you ever called everyone else 'asians'.

See how this works? Get this yet? See what I did? Well that is what YOU PC police are doing.
Now its done to you. Racists.

*Duly note: I have also seen Mods here using the term (which I deemed racist) 'Asians' in this derogatory way (i made it derogatory see?),
so,
Warn yourselves.

The problem you have here on this post/request, apart from it being f..king rediculous, is that there are no defined rules on racism. FOR EXAMPLE....

BY THE WAY THIS IS AN EXAMPLE NOT A STATEMENT.....If I call a pakistani a P.ki, thats deemed as a racist remark, (SORRY ITS PRINTED THAT WAY BUT ITS OUTLAWED AS RUDE) If I call a person from Japan a JAP, thats offensive and racist. How about when everyone calls us BRITS. NOTICE NONE OF THE LAST 2 ANALOGIES WERE BLANKD OUT AS RUDE.

Have I made my point ???????

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by TIGHAMADAN

She has the same publicist as Shilpa Shetty you know.

Source.

[Livia]

It's a sad indictment on society that most of the housemates, and some forum members, don't see anything wrong in what was said and done. Bigots never imagine they are bigots, they feel they are justified in their views and merely stating the truth. Sometimes when the error is pointed out to them the penny drops. And sometimes it doesn’t…

[JTM45]

As there are no defined rules on racism Sampvt most decent people use their common sense to decide what is and what isn't racist.
If you're not sure if it's racist or not just don't say it anyway!

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by jet

I agree...except for Conor's rant about Deena - he should have been removed from the house pronto. I feel that BB has been coming down harder on the other HM's ever since to compensate for not having acted properly against him.

Absolutely. It's like they are going.. "Hey BB fans, Carolwhine/Scott/Ash are way worse than Conor... LOOK!!" Especially when you consider his Funtime Frankie edit for the past two weeks.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Smeagol mate, shame about the x thing, give me a nod after the series and i will give you a few tips on how to keep a woman, Ive had mine for 40 yrs. By the way you must give me the name of the chop stick manufacturer that uses metal on their product or the soup bowls made of metal or the big table tennis bats they use as spoons or even the bamboo they clean their woks with. Obviously I dont get out now I am using the incontinent pants and the Zimmer frame, but I didnt realise times had change so badly.

The discussion was about culture on the whole not your young student mates of ethnic origins whooping it up in the present. Ask them what their mum makes them use at home. going off topic didnt help us there mate.

your sterotyping again on a masisve scale just to let you know dude its 2012 its a modern age come into the real world your be suprised

[cassieparis]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's a sad indictment on society that most of the housemates, and some forum members, don't see anything wrong in what was said and done. Bigots never imagine they are bigots, they feel they are justified in their views and merely stating the truth. Sometimes when the error is pointed out to them the penny drops. And sometimes it doesn’t…

......and sometimes the penny dropped way before the fingers hit the keyboard. But to no avail.
Offering offence is their main motivation. The only way they can feel alive.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by JTM45

As there are no defined rules on racism Sampvt most decent people use their common sense to decide what is and what isn't racist.
If you're not sure if it's racist or not just don't say it anyway!

If its common sence you are battling on about and it was applied, half of these PC posts wouldnt be up. Different people have different levels of tolerance. Its ok for a black man to call another a N but a mixed race person cant. I just dont get the borderline stuff that people make massive issues of.

Ask yourself this, lets say if Adam was Indian not afro whatever and he and Deana were called Baboons.....who would laugh and who would go running down to the nearest race relations board and employ a lawyer to see how much money they could get a the victim of a racial abuse.

Abuse is abuse when it causes hurt. Some of these PC guys act as judge and jury and poke their noses in making things worse and creating a problem where non existed. I am not racist and I have some really good Asian, sorry Indian friends, and one Japanese mate who incidently eats with chopsticks and dosent mind being called Asian. Some of these PC guys need to switch off here and watch in the night garden and poke holes in Iggle piggle and pepper pig, the sh.t thise guys get away with is of the scale.

[JTM45]

Oh dear!

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's a sad indictment on society that most of the housemates, and some forum members, don't see anything wrong in what was said and done. Bigots never imagine they are bigots, they feel they are justified in their views and merely stating the truth. Sometimes when the error is pointed out to them the penny drops. And sometimes it doesn’t…

Bravo!