[Marsh.]

She's three sheets to the wind by the sounds of it too.

Thinking giving her daughters designer clothes and jewellery and having every gadget going is them automatically being "well raised".

No doubt they'll grow up spoilt and as work-shy as their mother.

[InOne]

Unemployed Benefits

I wonder how many DM headlines there is with these buzz words in LOL

[GypsyGoth]

Is she is doing so well, why don't any of them have shoes

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Is she is doing so well, why don't any of them have shoes

They have underfloor heating. She should get that dido rail fixed though. It's not straight at all.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Is she is doing so well, why don't any of them have shoes

[Marsh.]

Get rid of the rail altogether. So old fashioned.

[King Gizzard]

Can't believe she wasn't embarrassed enough to do the story

[Kizzy]

Agreed ben, and not forgetting that shortly those who work part time earning less than £9'440 won't contribute anything anyway...
There was some talk of free nursery placements for all children 2 and over for 15hs pw.
Based on that my guess is income support will cease to be for those whose youngest is over 2 and they will be moved to JSA.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

cute

[Niamh.]

Great post Jesus. I agree 100%.

[Livia]

This isn't about bankers' bonuses, it's about ordinary people who are working and contributing and having to make a choice about how many kids they can afford to have, and how much they can spend on Christmas. Lots of those people will not pass on any kind of property to their children. When this woman dies her children, who no doubt are being taught well, will probably carry on and live the same kind of lifestyle that their mother has shown them is so lucrative and the state will probably pay for the funeral. If you are able to save £2000 from benefits, while people who are working long hours in thankless jobs are scrimping and scraping, I fail to see how anyone can justify it.

There are people on this forum who, through no fault of their own are on benefits. I wonder how many of them have managed to save £2000 this year. I'm guessing... none.

It's obviously an exception.

Have you seen that program with that camp, black guy that tells you how to pay off your house in a year or something similar?

People can do all kinds of things to cut costs, and make extra money.

I just can't justify demonising this woman, or the benefits system for such an anomaly. People on benefits are not enjoying the high life. I'd wager 99.9% of them struggle just to pay bills.

Unless there has been a break down of her benefit payments and how she spends her money, then it's all speculation.

Sometimes people just get paid too much by the system because of human/computational errors. She's ****ed herself by appearing in the story, as the system will be all over her like a rash now. So ultimately, they will make it harder for her to maintain it. There are probably a few people scattered around, that aren't stupid enough to publicise it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

It's obviously an exception.

Have you seen that program with that camp, black guy that tells you how to pay off your house in a year or something similar?

People can do all kinds of things to cut costs, and make extra money.

I just can't justify demonising this woman, or the benefits system for such an anomaly. People on benefits are not enjoying the high life. I'd wager 99.9% of them struggle just to pay bills.

Unless there has been a break down of her benefit payments and how she spends her money, then it's all speculation.

Sometimes people just get paid too much by the system because of human/computational errors. She's ****ed herself by appearing in the story, as the system will be all over her like a rash now. So ultimately, they will make it harder for her to maintain it. There are probably a few people scattered around, that aren't stupid enough to publicise it.

She has said she saves money throughout the year, however come april when universal credit comes in things will be very different.
Like you the demonisation of those in this socioeconomic group make my blood boil.
There but for the grace of god go I...
The worst are usually those who are one generation away from poor white trash, the daily mail reading Mrs Bucket pronounced bouquet types.

[Livia]

I hope they are all over her like a rash. Flaunting it in this way reinforces the idea some people have that being on benefits is an easy option.

[Liberty4eva]

Stories like this make my blood boil. And I'm not even from the UK. No wonder so many in the 3rd world want to go to the UK.

[Vanessa]

This makes a mockery of honest, hard working people. It sounds like she's getting too much benefit. But from next year they will be cut. Let's see if she still thinks she's better off not working.

[Irene Pearson]

When we are taxed quite literally from the cradle to the grave it is natural to be a little tetchy about people who choose not to contribute , just take instead! That includes wealthy tax evaders who legitimately do the same.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Irene Pearson

When we are taxed quite literally from the cradle to the grave it is natural to be a little tetchy about people who choose not to contribute , just take instead! That includes wealthy tax evaders who legitimately do the same.

It really winds me up. Most people are struggling to make ends meet because of the crisis. These people do nothing and get paid for it.

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It really winds me up. Most people are struggling to make ends meet because of the crisis. These people do nothing and get paid for it.

So lets play that out. Cut benefits away from everyone. Just stop it tomorrow. What happens then?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

So lets play that out. Cut benefits away from everyone. Just stop it tomorrow. What happens then?

I'm not saying cut them out completely. But some people get way too much. No wonder they don't want to work.

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I'm not saying cut them out completely. But some people get way too much. No wonder they don't want to work.

What's too much, then?

If they have £10 in their pockets after bills, food and daily expenses, is that OK? £50? What's the cut off?

Nobody knows anything about this womans life, other than she saves £2000 over a year. She may serve beans on toast every night of the week, just to give her kids a really special Christmas.

Who knows?

Originally Posted by Irene Pearson

When we are taxed quite literally from the cradle to the grave it is natural to be a little tetchy about people who choose not to contribute , just take instead! That includes wealthy tax evaders who legitimately do the same.

Tax is something everyone pays, in order to contribute towards society. How many articles do you see written about non-famous tax evaders, stealing millions of pounds from us, as opposed to articles you see written in the right wing rags that impersonate journalists on a daily basis?

How many two thousand pounds do you want to take from people in order to pay for Lord Fauntelroys swiss bank account?

It's easy to demonise the poor, their friends aren't Lords, and newspaper editors. You can measure society by how well we care for those that have least amongst us. The wealth disparity between rich and poor continues to grow, yet we want to make that wider by taking more from the bottom?

It's a ****ing insane world. I'm not saying there aren't errors, but countries do better, when the gap between bottom and top is narrower.

[Irene Pearson]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Tax is something everyone pays, in order to contribute towards society. How many articles do you see written about non-famous tax evaders, stealing millions of pounds from us, as opposed to articles you see written in the right wing rags that impersonate journalists on a daily basis?

How many two thousand pounds do you want to take from people in order to pay for Lord Fauntelroys swiss bank account?

It's easy to demonise the poor, their friends aren't Lords, and newspaper editors. You can measure society by how well we care for those that have least amongst us. The wealth disparity between rich and poor continues to grow, yet we want to make that wider by taking more from the bottom?

It's a ****ing insane world. I'm not saying there aren't errors, but countries do better, when the gap between bottom and top is narrower.

I am not demonising the poor at all. Please do not misinterpret my words. How have you got to Lets take away all benefits. Is anyone suggesting that? Let us just agree to disagree.

Originally Posted by Irene Pearson

I am not demonising the poor at all. Please do not misinterpret my words. How have you got to Lets take away all benefits. Is anyone suggesting that? Let us just agree to disagree.

Sorry, Irene. I was venting more generally than in your direction. Don't take that personally, it wasn't meant.

[Kizzy]

bazinga!
Hit the nail on the head there nessa... Whats the soloution? make work pay more than staying on benefits then.
Thats all most people want, not 2nd homes or duck houses..
A living wage so they can raise their children, not be a drain on resources and not be looked down on by those who are blinkered to the real issues of large scale corporate tax avoidance, and expenses fiddling (which equates to the same thing as it is creamed from taxpayers) that face the UK.