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Cherie | This Witch doesn't burn
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There is no doubt it is inconceivable that anyone could kill their own child let alone 3 of them, but until we have some idea of what went on we can't really judge her. Maybe the 4th pregnancy was an accident and he persuaded her to keep it, and then when it was too late to terminate left. She had an 11 month old baby who was most likely still waking up at night for a feed, she would have been tired, wiped out and hormonal and weepy from the pregnancy, and 3 young children, coupled with the stress of her partner leaving so maybe she just snapped and couldn't take any more. Or maybe she was a callous cow who was so jealous of her ex partners new love that she killed her family as the ultimate revenge, I'm leaning towards the former myself but who knows.
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Yeah, I agree the father should shoulder the blame also...but is abandonment as bad as murder of children? Not in my book. He will have to live with his guilt (rightly so) for the rest of his life. I wonder if it will come out that she threatened to do this if he didn't return? In that case he could have prevented it and asked authorities to intervene if nothing else.
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Yeah the guy was selfish. But people have affairs everyday. Kids dont usually end up being killed over it. |
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Cherie | This Witch doesn't burn
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Describing him as selfish in this case is rather mild. He was the catalyst and he must have had some inkling of her state of mind, unless of course he moved out and had no contact at all.
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Why are people taking this woman's side without knowing anything about her? What if she made every day a living hell and she was only getting pregnant to keep her boyfriend in a relationship with her? What if she didn't love her children, they were just tools to keep him there? What if he finally had enough, met somebody who actually loved him back and he left her for the new woman? What if he wanted to get his kids as soon as he possibly could, for example taking legal action against this woman who (very clearly) was mentally unstable? I don't know any more than the next person, but I think it's completely ridiculous to paint a picture of this woman as being a poor victim and the man was to blame for her actions. Her children are dead and so is she, and unless he went and murdered them all or the children all inexplicably died at the same time by complete chance, then it's looking like she killed them and then committed suicide. I don't care how bad her life was, murdering your own children is completely wicked and irredeemably bad. |
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This story is horrible
Why do people keep killing their children
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Shouldn't really speculate on anything till the facts are released..
just been on the news that she denied police entry to her house after they visited last night to ask if she knew anything about a stabbing |
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Her Partner only left her at the Weekend
Ref: Radio 5 Live |
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![]() The kids found dead in the home is the worse thing about this. |
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Coincidentally this is the same road Sky News used to ask shops/residents about the latest budget the other month
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..according to ITV news the post mortem results on the children are inconclusive...
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![]() "CCTV shows Fiona Anderson at the Fyffe Centre early on the morning that she died" ![]() "She appeared to try the door at the building which is home to St John's Housing Trust" ![]() "Thirty seconds later she left the building - less than two hours later her body was found" |
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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A heavily pregnant woman who is believed to have killed her three children before she fell to her death left messages on the walls of her home asking for them to be buried together.
Fiona Anderson, who suffered fatal head injuries on April 15, had written notes saying that she loved her children and would 'keep them safe' shortly before she died last month. Officers found her children - Levina, three, Addy, two, and 11-month-old Kyden - dead at their home in Lowestoft, Suffolk. The parents of the 23-year-old appealed to the father of the children to grant Ms Anderson's last wish. Ms Anderson's father Michael Anderson said in a pre-recorded interview shown on ITV's Daybreak this morning: 'She'd written that the children were asleep in their bed all together, all tucked up with their bears. 'They were all looking very peaceful and happy together. 'And she also wrote "please bury us together, we want to be together to keep them safe".' The father of the children, Craig McLelland, reportedly does not want his children to be buried with their mother Mr Anderson said: 'We must understand that that was not Fiona, Fiona would never have done anything to hurt her children. 'So that evening, Fiona, whatever happened, she had in her mind that what she was doing was correct. 'She was looking after the children and she wants to be with the children to look after them still. Everybody must understand that.' CCTV images showed eight-months pregnant Ms Anderson walking around Lowestoft holding a teddy bear and wearing a white coat shortly before she was found. Her mother Kerry said Fiona seemed happy when she last saw her. Mrs Anderson said: 'She adored the children. Everything was the children, they were just everything to her.' The heartbroken mother said she reacted with disbelief when she heard the news, saying: 'Things like that just don't happen.' Both parents were emotional during their interview, and Mr Anderson said they would be unable to move on from their grief until their daughter is buried. He said: 'Until we can actually bury our daughter we can't even comprehend going forward. Speaking on ITV's Daybreak this morning, Mirror columnist Fiona Phillips, who interviewed Michael and Kerry Anderson, said: 'Obviously Craig, the children's father, must be hurting too and Michael and Kerry realise that and the reason they wanted to do this interview is they're appealing to Craig.' At the time of her tragic death, Fiona's parents and her sisters Claire and Laura Anderson said that 'life was sometimes overwhelming' for her. In a statement, they said: 'Fiona was a beautiful, intelligent girl and a loving and caring person, but she had suffered from mental illness since she was young and we believe she was driven to her actions yesterday This was not our Fiona - she was not herself. She cared passionately about others but often brought stress on herself by caring too much. She was gentle but ended up under too much pressure. 'As a family we were close but she would often push us away, keen to do her own thing and not to listen when we offered support. Life was sometimes overwhelming for her.' They added: 'She was really popular but just didn't believe she was and had forgotten there were people there that could help her. 'We wish more had been done to recognise her mental health problems.' The inquest into the deaths of Ms Anderson and her children was adjourned last month Spoiler:
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I saw this interview this morning and I am in two minds about it,I feel so sorry for those children and their mum,but also have to consider how their father feels,surely he must have some say in whether they are buried together or not,Mmmm I don't know this is a hard one.
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The funeral has taken place in Suffolk of three children who were found dead shortly after their mother fell to her death from a car park.
Fiona Anderson, 23, who was pregnant, fell from the Gordon Road car park in Lowestoft on 15 April. The bodies of Levina, three, Addy, two, and 11-month-old Kyden, were later discovered in a bedroom of her home in London Road South. The children were laid to rest after a funeral in Lowestoft. Inquests were opened and adjourned in April, with the cause of the children's deaths described as unascertained. A funeral for Ms Anderson and her unborn child will take place at a later date. Last month, Suffolk County Council leader Mark Bee said more local authority support was needed for "troubled families". http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-22905338
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Fiona's was today btw
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..I thought they said hers was at a later date..I hope that they'll be buried together...I think this is still one of the saddest things to have happened, she must have felt so completely lost...
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I hope she isn't buried with them unless the father of the children is okay with it... mental illness is a very personal struggle and ultimately it's not one that this woman could cope with; but a man lost three children and a fourth unborn one as well as the woman who gave birth to all of those children... I'd imagine his feelings towards her are very complicated, but he just lost all of his children because of her actions, surely it would be disrespecting him in the most offensive way to allow her to be buried with the children if he wasn't okay with it... this story still makes me sad.
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