[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Emmyasdfghjkl

yes, I agree there, but any girl should know, if a guy is with someone. don't take the bait, he gave her the green light, when he told her he liked her, but as a female she should of taken into account how his girlfriend would feel, and not started flirting back, because she made herself seem easy, and like a homewreaker, not saying he wasn't in the wrong but still.

Oh fgs....so,at what point should a guy take responsibility for his actions?. Why should she worry about how his g/f felt? what does she owe her? more than her own boyfriend perhaps??.

"As a woman,she should have taken into account how his girlfriend would feel". Omg, I'm depressed . Are women psychic? there's no bond among women, reading threads about people on Big Brother should tell you that, I don't think you like each other very much, in fact, going off how you all constantly tear each other apart, I don't think you like yourselves much either .

As for this "Home wrecker" label, well, all I can say is, had Daley used some self control none of this would have happened.

[Emmyasdfghjkl]

Originally Posted by Speedster

Oh fgs....so,at what point should a guy take responsibility for his actions?. Why should she worry about how his g/f felt? what does she owe her? more than her own boyfriend perhaps??.

"As a woman,she should have taken into account how his girlfriend would feel". Omg, I'm depressed . Are women psychic? there's no bond among women, reading threads about people on Big Brother should tell you that, I don't think you like each other very much, in fact, going off how you all constantly tear each other apart, I don't think you like yourselves much either .

As for this "Home wrecker" label, well, all I can say is, had Daley used some self control none of this would have happened.

I didn't say he shouldn't, if you actually look back I just said he was worse than her! and "I don't think you like each other very much, in fact, going off how you all constantly tear each other apart, I don't think you like yourselves much either" what did that even mean?

[Emmyasdfghjkl]

you don't seem to realise this thread was about hazel, therefore i'm not gonna bring up daley, even though he was worse than her, simply because I am talking about her, not him.

[kate2013]

But if Daley had of used some self control, Hazel still hit on him knowing he had a partner on national tv, and although you cannot get your head around that, the majority of women in that audience are not going to like her for it.

She was a very lucky lady she may of ended up with Icke Turner, I hope she learns from it.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by kate2013

What do you mean that using Hate drives home the point? What point are you trying to make then if not Hate? your reasoning is nonsensical using the word hate because it rhymes is pretty strong. Like something the Daily Star would use to create unnecessary drama.

And im not agreeing to Daleys behaviour either, I know he was responsible and is an asshole but he has left the house. Despite Daley, I believe Hazels behaviour was inappropriate in the circumstances.

Well first of all look at the OP, the words "nasty" and "jealous" were both used as descriptions of hazel. Why? Most of the house were sitting around in the same area, they were all laughing, joking and egging on those about to jump in. It was all in good fun. A fairly light hearted moment, where the entire house seemed to be having fun.

And from that happy scene someone focused directly on hazel and tried to make something bad about it. That is the reasoning for driving points home. Taking the good moments and trying to turn them into something else, for no obvious reason.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kate2013

But if Daley had of used some self control, Hazel still hit on him knowing he had a partner on national tv, and although you cannot get your head around that, the majority of women in that audience are not going to like her for it.

She was a very lucky lady she may of ended up with Icke Turner, I hope she learns from it.

Is Icke Turner in BB?....
Many women me included will see the assault for what it was... an assault, regardless of what happened before or my perception of hazel before it too.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by kate2013

Well Ive made my point, had my say just as you have. I have nothing more to add. People will have their opinions and perceptions based on what they believe is right or wrong their gut instinct would have told them that. They have already made up their minds. Im going to bed now nothing on TV but Super Casino night.

Yeah, ive just copped to the fact that im watching C5+1, so I dont even have casino night on, ive got an "unavailable" sign up. How many channels are available via a satellite? And im watching the one that doesnt work!

[kate2013]

Ok, well i saw nothing wrong in Hazels behaviour there, I agree she was taking responsibility for Charlie going in. Lol, I have no idea whats on now, dance hits or something, not exactly chill out go to bed music.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Emmyasdfghjkl

I think they are both vile people? so not really.. because i'm not blaming just her, I know he was in the wrong, a bit more than hazel, but shes hardly little miss innocent.

Oh she's so not innocent! Im not even much of a fan. I doubt id miss her if she left tomorrow.

But some of the comments thrown at her annoy me. Hence my involvement.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Emmyasdfghjkl

I didn't say he shouldn't, if you actually look back I just said he was worse than her! and "I don't think you like each other very much, in fact, going off how you all constantly tear each other apart, I don't think you like yourselves much either" what did that even mean?

What I meant was I get the impression that women, deep down are more than happy with the double standards in society; there seems to be a rule for how men can behave (do more or less what they want) and another for how women can behave (be nice, don't rock the boat etc).

Anyway, wasn't trying to attack you personally, sorry if you think I was, I'm just frustrated about all the flack being thrown at Hazel, and by extension, women in her position.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by kate2013

Ok, well i saw nothing wrong in Hazels behaviour there, I agree she was taking responsibility for Charlie going in. Lol, I have no idea whats on now, dance hits or something, not exactly chill out go to bed music.

LOL - im trying to turn off internet - its just unfortunate that im such a last word freak! Nite

[optimisticcynic]

She's scum. Hope she and Daley get together after the show. They deserve each other.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

Josy.... I need you. Lol.

I agree with you. She disliked Charlie from the beginning and said so to Dan, this current friendship is tactical.

[Razor]

I have never liked the girl, she seems rotten