[Emmyasdfghjkl]

Originally Posted by Speedster

BUT....If he doesn't flirt back-like Daley did-there won't be a problem.

yes, I agree there, but any girl should know, if a guy is with someone. don't take the bait, he gave her the green light, when he told her he liked her, but as a female she should of taken into account how his girlfriend would feel, and not started flirting back, because she made herself seem easy, and like a homewreaker, not saying he wasn't in the wrong but still.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Emmyasdfghjkl

but as a female she should of taken into account how his girlfriend would feel, and not started flirting back, because she made herself seem easy, and like a homewreaker, not saying he wasn't in the wrong but still.

Like I said above - by your logic, I would have "backed off" from my partner 6 years ago because she was "with someone else" and I wouldn't have a wonderful family and two children, and she would still (maybe) be in a relationship with someone she wasn't happy with. And HE would still be in a relationship with someone who wasn't completely committed to him.

It's the wrong way to look at things. No person "belongs" to anyone, and every persons actions are their own responsibility. Given that it was on TV could she have been more considerate of his girlfriends' feelings? Maybe so, yes... but her feelings were never her responsibility AND he claimed they had broken up before he went in. It's all on him. To suggest otherwise and try to shift blame really underplays what HE did to his girlfriend.

[Emmyasdfghjkl]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Like I said above - by your logic, I would have "backed off" from my partner 6 years ago because she was "with someone else" and I wouldn't have a wonderful family and two children, and she would still (maybe) be in a relationship with someone she wasn't happy with. And HE would still be in a relationship with someone who wasn't completely committed to him.

It's the wrong way to look at things. No person "belongs" to anyone, and every persons actions are their own responsibility. Given that it was on TV could she have been more considerate of his girlfriends' feelings? Maybe so, yes... but her feelings were never her responsibility AND he claimed they had broken up before he went in. It's all on him. To suggest otherwise and try to shift blame really underplays what HE did to his girlfriend.

well, she left him, so completely different thing. but yes her feelings weren't her responsibility, and maybe so, but they were both vile and acted disgustingly.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Emmyasdfghjkl

yes, I agree there, but any girl should know, if a guy is with someone. don't take the bait, he gave her the green light, when he told her he liked her, but as a female she should of taken into account how his girlfriend would feel, and not started flirting back, because she made herself seem easy, and like a homewreaker, not saying he wasn't in the wrong but still.

Isnt that the point though?

If a BB HM was a total lier, in the same was nasty nick was, we would blame them.

If a HM got drunk and punched someone, we would blame them.

If a HM acted like a total twat, we would blame them.

But if a guy cheats on his GF, with another woman on BB, then the girl on the show gets thorn apart by the public. Is it a case of double standards? Because to me it lacks logic.

[Emmyasdfghjkl]

Originally Posted by kefln

Isnt that the point though?

If a BB HM was a total lier, in the same was nasty nick was, we would blame them.

If a HM got drunk and punched someone, we would blame them.

If a HM acted like a total twat, we would blame them.

But if a guy cheats on his GF, with another woman on BB, then the girl on the show gets thorn apart by the public. Is it a case of double standards? Because to me it lacks logic.

I think they are both vile people? so not really.. because i'm not blaming just her, I know he was in the wrong, a bit more than hazel, but shes hardly little miss innocent.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Emmyasdfghjkl

I think they are both vile people? so not really.. because i'm not blaming just her, I know he was in the wrong, a bit more than hazel, but shes hardly little miss innocent.

Oh she's so not innocent! Im not even much of a fan. I doubt id miss her if she left tomorrow.

But some of the comments thrown at her annoy me. Hence my involvement.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Emmyasdfghjkl

yes, I agree there, but any girl should know, if a guy is with someone. don't take the bait, he gave her the green light, when he told her he liked her, but as a female she should of taken into account how his girlfriend would feel, and not started flirting back, because she made herself seem easy, and like a homewreaker, not saying he wasn't in the wrong but still.

Oh fgs....so,at what point should a guy take responsibility for his actions?. Why should she worry about how his g/f felt? what does she owe her? more than her own boyfriend perhaps??.

"As a woman,she should have taken into account how his girlfriend would feel". Omg, I'm depressed . Are women psychic? there's no bond among women, reading threads about people on Big Brother should tell you that, I don't think you like each other very much, in fact, going off how you all constantly tear each other apart, I don't think you like yourselves much either .

As for this "Home wrecker" label, well, all I can say is, had Daley used some self control none of this would have happened.

[Emmyasdfghjkl]

Originally Posted by Speedster

Oh fgs....so,at what point should a guy take responsibility for his actions?. Why should she worry about how his g/f felt? what does she owe her? more than her own boyfriend perhaps??.

"As a woman,she should have taken into account how his girlfriend would feel". Omg, I'm depressed . Are women psychic? there's no bond among women, reading threads about people on Big Brother should tell you that, I don't think you like each other very much, in fact, going off how you all constantly tear each other apart, I don't think you like yourselves much either .

As for this "Home wrecker" label, well, all I can say is, had Daley used some self control none of this would have happened.

I didn't say he shouldn't, if you actually look back I just said he was worse than her! and "I don't think you like each other very much, in fact, going off how you all constantly tear each other apart, I don't think you like yourselves much either" what did that even mean?

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Emmyasdfghjkl

I didn't say he shouldn't, if you actually look back I just said he was worse than her! and "I don't think you like each other very much, in fact, going off how you all constantly tear each other apart, I don't think you like yourselves much either" what did that even mean?

What I meant was I get the impression that women, deep down are more than happy with the double standards in society; there seems to be a rule for how men can behave (do more or less what they want) and another for how women can behave (be nice, don't rock the boat etc).

Anyway, wasn't trying to attack you personally, sorry if you think I was, I'm just frustrated about all the flack being thrown at Hazel, and by extension, women in her position.