[Suze]

I did wonder as we have had one of the better summers in a while, whether that would herald a hard Winter. I like Winter, but this one sounds like it could be quite harsh, blizzard type weather can be quite nasty.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Would you bloody pipe down for one second kizzy

Ok, but know that for a large section of the community winter is going to be very long and very hard. There's a distinct possibility many won't survive it, young and old alike.....
Enjoy!

[Nedusa]

So a white Christmas is on the cards... Fantastic !!!

[Jake.]

[AnnieK]

A proper white Christmas with thick snow on the ground and light snow fall would be magical...

[Samm]

Bring it on

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by anniek76

A proper white Christmas with thick snow on the ground and light snow fall would be magical...

Absolutely ....!!! Not just a few flakes in the air

[user104658]

Bye byeee economic upswing, then . If it's that bad we'll be in recession again next year.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I want this to happen

Same, I do love a proper winter. However I have have to use my car for my work and I have deadlines so maybe just a week of it...

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Ok, but know that for a large section of the community winter is going to be very long and very hard. There's a distinct possibility many won't survive it, young and old alike.....
Enjoy!

We hear this every year too.......

[Me. I Am Salman]

not here for this

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

We hear this every year too.......

Yes and since 2010 it's become a reality.
In 2004 the average annual duel fuel bill was Ł540 in 2013 it's Ł1340 and they are due to rise again by 2014 by 8-10%.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes and since 2010 it's become a reality.
In 2004 the average annual duel fuel bill was Ł540 in 2013 it's Ł1340 and they are due to rise again by 2014 by 8-10%.

Well Kizzy you can't stop the winter weather during the winter....

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Well Kizzy you can't stop the winter weather during the winter....

Do you not feel raising energy prices by 10% just prior to winter pernicious?
Raise earlier to offset the winter demand if needs be.
Nowhere in my post did I suggest winter weather could be avoided josy

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Do you not feel raising energy prices by 10% just prior to winter pernicious?
Raise earlier to offset the winter demand if needs be.
Nowhere in my post did I suggest winter weather could be avoided josy

The point of my post Kizzy was that we can't do anything about it, we cant change the weather and we can't change the fuel cost hikes, of course the rising prices has a terrible effect on people but we are powerless to do anything about it.

Every year we hear about these terrible winters that we are going to be hit with and every year we hear that people are going to lose their lives because they can't afford the fuel bills but in reality all we can do is prepare for winter the best we can.

The fuel companies are running a business and the best time for them to raise prices is obviously the winter.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Josy

The point of my post Kizzy was that we can't do anything about it, we cant change the weather and we can't change the fuel cost hikes, of course the rising prices has a terrible effect on people but we are powerless to do anything about it.

Every year we hear about these terrible winters that we are going to be hit with and every year we hear that people are going to lose their lives because they can't afford the fuel bills but in reality all we can do is prepare for winter the best we can.

The fuel companies are running a business and the best time for them to raise prices is obviously the winter.

This, and also I think we can all probably do with using a bit less fuel and be more economical, when you consider very few houses had central heating before the 70s, we are a bit soft now I think. I remember waking up when I was young to frost patterns inside the windows, they were magical but it was bliddy freezing when getting dressed.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

The point of my post Kizzy was that we can't do anything about it, we cant change the weather and we can't change the fuel cost hikes, of course the rising prices has a terrible effect on people but we are powerless to do anything about it.

Every year we hear about these terrible winters that we are going to be hit with and every year we hear that people are going to lose their lives because they can't afford the fuel bills but in reality all we can do is prepare for winter the best we can.

The fuel companies are running a business and the best time for them to raise prices is obviously the winter.

It did sound a bit glib, put up and shut up is an option yes I suppose.
They are yes, and from a business point of view that makes sense but ethically it's wrong imo.
The British Red Cross have recently added Britain to their list of countries where some require food aid.. is this right?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It did sound a bit glib, put up and shut up is an option yes I suppose.
They are yes, and from a business point of view that makes sense but ethically it's wrong imo.
The British Red Cross have recently added Britain to their list of countries where some require food aid.. is this right?

Of course it isn't right, that's a pretty pointless question here tbh and isn't anything to do with this thread.

[Ninastar]

only on tibb can a thread about snow cause arguments...

bring it on, i'm so excited!! i love snow

although people were saying it's going to snow in october, and that's not true...

but plz be true weather gods....

[Gstar]

Originally Posted by michael21

have a good time

thank you

[Kizzy]

It's not an argument... It's a discussion.
Anticipating bad weather has a direct link to a discussion on fuel costs, if you don't want to be part of the discussion josy that's fine.
Cherie I remember that too, the days before central heating. You put the gas fire on in the morning or lit the coal fire/ wood burning stove with back boiler to heat the water....
My point is you could.... as opposed to can't afford to.

[smudgie]

We are definitely softer now, comes with people having central heating.

Continental quilts help as well.

I can remember people piling their coats on top of the blankes to keep themselves warm in the seventies.
No winter fuel payments then either if I remember correctly.

Really bad side of loads of snow is that our daughter wont get home for Xmas.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's not an argument... It's a discussion.
Anticipating bad weather has a direct link to a discussion on fuel costs, if you don't want to be part of the discussion josy that's fine.
Cherie I remember that too, the days before central heating. You put the gas fire on in the morning or lit the coal fire/ wood burning stove with back boiler to heat the water....
My point is you could.... as opposed to can't afford to.

I'm not sure they could afford to heat their houses back in the day that is why heating was a luxury!, I'm not saying its right, I'm just saying whilst we have no control over the weather and price hikes, we do have control over how much energy we use ourselves and maybe we as a consumer need to rethink how we live our lives and act accordingly, switching energy providers is a nonsense as whilst there may be savings in the short term, in the long term you end up paying more (at least that has been my experience), the only way to guarantee lower bills is to just use less unfortunately!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by smudgie

We are definitely softer now, comes with people having central heating.

Continental quilts help as well.

I can remember people piling their coats on top of the blankes to keep themselves warm in the seventies.
No winter fuel payments then either if I remember correctly.

Really bad side of loads of snow is that our daughter wont get home for Xmas.

I remember that as a kid as well. where does your daughter live Smudgie?

[Vicky.]

I dont believe it. Every year we get these announcements right before the prices shoot up.