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I personally think the people who abused the dog in the first place should be charged with murder. I don't think the dog would have killer her if it hadn't been abused in the past.

I feel so sorry for the mother. Imagine watching it happen. I was talking to the girls today about what we would do and all of us (bar one) said we would have done the same... stabbed the dog. You'd do anything to get the dog off of your child. Absolutely anything. It's such a shame that this was the result.

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pretty sure it states the dog was abused.

also there's a pic in the thread somewhere of a red ring around it's neck from what I'm assuming is abuse.
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This story almost defies belief...!!! Her parents live in a flat with a small 4 year old girl and one day they decide to get a dog possibly a companion for their daughter, nothing wrong I. That....

So they go out to a rescue centre and bring back a 14 stone French Mastif a dog the size of a small horse and they put it in their flat with their small daughter.

Fcuking idiots should be prosecuted for involuntary manslaughter .

Why the hell would you put your daughter at risk like that ??
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This story almost defies belief...!!! Her parents live in a flat with a small 4 year old girl and one day they decide to get a dog possibly a companion for their daughter, nothing wrong I. That....

So they go out to a rescue centre and bring back a 14 stone French Mastif a dog the size of a small horse and they put it in their flat with their small daughter.

Fcuking idiots should be prosecuted for involuntary manslaughter .

Why the hell would you put your daughter at risk like that ??
..it wasn't the French mastiff that killed her, Nedusa..it was another dog..and I don't know what the circumstances were exactly but a huge responsibility has to also lay with the homing centres as well,,people can only 'adopt' dogs if they allow them to...anyway, I would think that her mum's world is dark enough atm without laying blame at her/she has a lifetime to do that to herself, which I have no doubt she will...
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..it wasn't the French mastiff that killed her, Nedusa..it was another dog..and I don't know what the circumstances were exactly but a huge responsibility has to also lay with the homing centres as well,,people can only 'adopt' dogs if they allow them to...anyway, I would think that her mum's world is dark enough atm without laying blame at her/she has a lifetime to do that to herself, which I have no doubt she will...
OK... I thought the picture of the dog was shown in the newspaper front page. But really the bigger question we need to ask is why have a dog which has the capacity to inflict serious harm on the smallest member of one's family.

Too many parents are blind to the potential dangers of bringing dogs into an established family. Dogs are pack animals and will assume their position in the pecking order of that family so smaller family members may be assumed by the dog to be below the Dogs level so the dog may think it can try and control or punish the child.

Also if the dog is a rescue dog then there is no way to assess the dog's mental state given the possible abuse it suffered as a puppy.

So why take the chance ? Why put your children's lives at risk ? If you must get a dog then get a smaller dog one that could not pose a serious threat to the health of your SMALLEST family member.
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It wasn't a French mastiff.
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What type of dog is that? It still looks like a dog I wouldn't get from a rescue centre if I had young children. Is it a staffie or something?
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What type of dog is that? It still looks like a dog I wouldn't get from a rescue centre if I had young children. Is it a staffie or something?


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A bulldog is never suitable for children i think.
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Doesn't look like a bulldog to me, a Bull terrier maybe?
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Doesn't look like a bulldog to me, a Bull terrier maybe?

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Well, I think if you're going to get a rescue dog and you have children, you should get a dog that you could get under control if it gets out of control, if you know what I mean
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I agree. That dog looks quite scary to me.
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Well, I think if you're going to get a rescue dog and you have children, you should get a dog that you could get under control if it gets out of control, if you know what I mean
We have a rescue dog,he's a ball of ginger fluff,he is a Pommie cross and looks just like a fox,he is as nutty as a box of frogs adores the kids,he never leaves them alone,but I would never leave the dog unattended with them as they can be a bit rough sometimes,having said that my kids would probably give the dog a bigger bite than he could, he does get a bit over excited sometimes and jumps up and scratches them,but they rough and tumble together,We do know he is petrified of hoovers,so we think maybe in his background someone has tormented him with one,I have to let him out in the garden whenever it's on.I do hope people don't stop adopting dogs because of this,you just have to be careful and have some common sense.
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I think rescue dogs are bearing the brunt of this. The bottom line for me is that you should never, ever leave a young child alone with a dog. Any dog. Ever.
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That's true. Dogs can be unpredictable.
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No dog is EVER fine with kids. I have a niece who's four. She freaks my cat out because she's too loud and too fast, and I imagine it'd have the same effect on a dog. She's not naughty, she four. Being fast, loud and unpredicatble is her job.

Dogs are rescued for a variety of reasons, not always because it's aggressive, but a lot of the time because people are too stupid, cruel and/or feckless to cope with an animal.

I am genuinely sorry for the parents' loss... but they have to accept leaving a tiny child with a massive dog was a mistake that's going to live with them forever.
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No dog is EVER fine with kids. I have a niece who's four. She freaks my cat out because she's too loud and too fast, and I imagine it'd have the same effect on a dog. She's not naughty, she four. Being fast, loud and unpredicatble is her job.

Dogs are rescued for a variety of reasons, not always because it's aggressive, but a lot of the time because people are too stupid, cruel and/or feckless to cope with an animal.

I am genuinely sorry for the parents' loss... but they have to accept leaving a tiny child with a massive dog was a mistake that's going to live with them forever.
I agree. If i had small children i wouldn't keep any pets.
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I don't think you have to go that far, pets can equally be beneficial and wonderful for kids, it's just about being sensible and not leaving young children alone with them
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Yes,that's so true,they teach kids lots of things and mainly how to care and the animals love the kids as much as the kids love them.
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No dog is EVER fine with kids. I have a niece who's four. She freaks my cat out because she's too loud and too fast, and I imagine it'd have the same effect on a dog. She's not naughty, she four. Being fast, loud and unpredicatble is her job.

Dogs are rescued for a variety of reasons, not always because it's aggressive, but a lot of the time because people are too stupid, cruel and/or feckless to cope with an animal.

I am genuinely sorry for the parents' loss... but they have to accept leaving a tiny child with a massive dog was a mistake that's going to live with them forever.
I don't think she was left on her own though, from what I read (if true and the Mum must have been around to see the attack as she stabbed the dog to death), Lexy was in her Mums bed and her Mum was laying with her when the dog wandered in and jumped on her. Bottom line here the dog was at least 6 and a stray so nothing was known of its history.
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I don't think she was left on her own though, from what I read (if true and the Mum must have been around to see the attack as she stabbed the dog to death), Lexy was in her Mums bed and her Mum was laying with her when the dog wandered in and jumped on her. Bottom line here the dog was at least 6 and a stray so nothing was known of its history.
Yeah, which is why A - a rescue centre should have known better than to advise the mother that he was good with kids (how on earth could they know that) and B - The mother should not have gotten a dog of that size and of that age when she had a young child

Having said all that I sympathize with her and I'm sure there won't be a single day that goes by when she doesn't regret her decision to get that dog and blame herself
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It's the people in charge of the Dog Rescue that are to blame, allowing fully grown and potentially psychologically fragile dogs to be adopted by young families is reckless and stupid.

I also disagree that dogs and children shouldn't mix, I've never not had a dog in my life and I've never had problems, I've known plenty of people who are the same. A dog that is raised in a loving and responsible home will not harm anyone. There is no such thing as a bad dog, only bad owners and this dog's previous owners obviously left it in an unbalanced state.
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