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Old 06-11-2013, 05:07 PM #51
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Do you think the stabbing of the dog infuriated it more?

The problem is when they lock jaws
Nothing can get it off.
thats the problem with bull dogs and pit bulls


An American had one locked on his leg
he had a Hand gun shot it
but the leg was destroyed
so he has one leg now.





For some reason while the girl was unwell
the dog changed




Orchard Kennels can not say anything
as is a Police matter now

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I personally think the people who abused the dog in the first place should be charged with murder. I don't think the dog would have killer her if it hadn't been abused in the past.

I feel so sorry for the mother. Imagine watching it happen. I was talking to the girls today about what we would do and all of us (bar one) said we would have done the same... stabbed the dog. You'd do anything to get the dog off of your child. Absolutely anything. It's such a shame that this was the result.
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I personally think the people who abused the dog in the first place should be charged with murder. I don't think the dog would have killer her if it hadn't been abused in the past.

I feel so sorry for the mother. Imagine watching it happen. I was talking to the girls today about what we would do and all of us (bar one) said we would have done the same... stabbed the dog. You'd do anything to get the dog off of your child. Absolutely anything. It's such a shame that this was the result.

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The problem is when they lock jaws
Nothing can get it off.
thats the problem with bull dogs and pit bulls


An American had one locked on his leg
he had a Hand gun shot it
but the leg was destroyed
so he has one leg now.





For some reason while the girl was unwell
the dog changed




Orchard Kennels can not say anything
as is a Police matter now
They don't have lock jaws - it's just a myth, but they do have a powerful bite that is nigh on impossible to break with human strength.

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They don't have lock jaws - it's just a myth, but they do have a powerful bite that is nigh on impossible to break with human strength.


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You should say
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pretty sure it states the dog was abused.

also there's a pic in the thread somewhere of a red ring around it's neck from what I'm assuming is abuse.
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This story almost defies belief...!!! Her parents live in a flat with a small 4 year old girl and one day they decide to get a dog possibly a companion for their daughter, nothing wrong I. That....

So they go out to a rescue centre and bring back a 14 stone French Mastif a dog the size of a small horse and they put it in their flat with their small daughter.

Fcuking idiots should be prosecuted for involuntary manslaughter .

Why the hell would you put your daughter at risk like that ??
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It wasn't a French mastiff.
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This story almost defies belief...!!! Her parents live in a flat with a small 4 year old girl and one day they decide to get a dog possibly a companion for their daughter, nothing wrong I. That....

So they go out to a rescue centre and bring back a 14 stone French Mastif a dog the size of a small horse and they put it in their flat with their small daughter.

Fcuking idiots should be prosecuted for involuntary manslaughter .

Why the hell would you put your daughter at risk like that ??
..it wasn't the French mastiff that killed her, Nedusa..it was another dog..and I don't know what the circumstances were exactly but a huge responsibility has to also lay with the homing centres as well,,people can only 'adopt' dogs if they allow them to...anyway, I would think that her mum's world is dark enough atm without laying blame at her/she has a lifetime to do that to herself, which I have no doubt she will...
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..it wasn't the French mastiff that killed her, Nedusa..it was another dog..and I don't know what the circumstances were exactly but a huge responsibility has to also lay with the homing centres as well,,people can only 'adopt' dogs if they allow them to...anyway, I would think that her mum's world is dark enough atm without laying blame at her/she has a lifetime to do that to herself, which I have no doubt she will...
OK... I thought the picture of the dog was shown in the newspaper front page. But really the bigger question we need to ask is why have a dog which has the capacity to inflict serious harm on the smallest member of one's family.

Too many parents are blind to the potential dangers of bringing dogs into an established family. Dogs are pack animals and will assume their position in the pecking order of that family so smaller family members may be assumed by the dog to be below the Dogs level so the dog may think it can try and control or punish the child.

Also if the dog is a rescue dog then there is no way to assess the dog's mental state given the possible abuse it suffered as a puppy.

So why take the chance ? Why put your children's lives at risk ? If you must get a dog then get a smaller dog one that could not pose a serious threat to the health of your SMALLEST family member.
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What type of dog is that? It still looks like a dog I wouldn't get from a rescue centre if I had young children. Is it a staffie or something?
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What type of dog is that? It still looks like a dog I wouldn't get from a rescue centre if I had young children. Is it a staffie or something?


['Just don't let it jump up': What tragic Lexi’s mother was told
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I wonder if that dog place will close?

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A bulldog is never suitable for children i think.
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Doesn't look like a bulldog to me, a Bull terrier maybe?
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Doesn't look like a bulldog to me, a Bull terrier maybe?

Maybe a cross breed
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there are plenty of other breeds that are more suitable for children.
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Well, I think if you're going to get a rescue dog and you have children, you should get a dog that you could get under control if it gets out of control, if you know what I mean
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I agree. That dog looks quite scary to me.
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Well, I think if you're going to get a rescue dog and you have children, you should get a dog that you could get under control if it gets out of control, if you know what I mean
We have a rescue dog,he's a ball of ginger fluff,he is a Pommie cross and looks just like a fox,he is as nutty as a box of frogs adores the kids,he never leaves them alone,but I would never leave the dog unattended with them as they can be a bit rough sometimes,having said that my kids would probably give the dog a bigger bite than he could, he does get a bit over excited sometimes and jumps up and scratches them,but they rough and tumble together,We do know he is petrified of hoovers,so we think maybe in his background someone has tormented him with one,I have to let him out in the garden whenever it's on.I do hope people don't stop adopting dogs because of this,you just have to be careful and have some common sense.
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We have a rescue dog,he's a ball of ginger fluff,he is a Pommie cross and looks just like a fox,he is as nutty as a box of frogs adores the kids,he never leaves them alone,but I would never leave the dog unattended with them as they can be a bit rough sometimes,having said that my kids would probably give the dog a bigger bite than he could, he does get a bit over excited sometimes and jumps up and scratches them,but they rough and tumble together,We do know he is petrified of hoovers,so we think maybe in his background someone has tormented him with one,I have to let him out in the garden whenever it's on.I do hope people don't stop adopting dogs because of this,you just have to be careful and have some common sense.
Ah yes of course, one of our dogs is a rescue dog as well, we've had him 13 years now, he's was only around 1 and a half when we got him (he's a border collie cross) and he's the loveliest friendliest dog ever, he just adores people. But it's like you say, you have to be sensible when it comes to kids and dogs, for both the dog and the childs sakes and i think those bigger dogs, like bull terriers, mastiffs, rottweilers etc shouldn't be taken from a rescue centre by someone who has children or doesn't have the proper time and dedication to looking after the dog properly. Basically if you have a child, you shouldn't rescue an animal that could actually kill your child in front of you and you wouldn't be able to do anything about it
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According to the papers today the dog is a cross breed, he was a stray by all accounts and was 6 to 8 years old, the French Mastiff was a friends dog that this family were looking after while she was on holiday. It looks to me like the woman was naive dog lover looking to do some good for an abandoned dog, it is clear from the photos that Lexi loved dogs too, but I feel the re homing centre are the ones at fault here, they didn't know enough about the dog to rehome it with a family with a small child. I feel desperately sorry for her as the advice she was given was completely wrong and now she has lost her child.
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According to the papers today the dog is a cross breed, he was a stray by all accounts and was 6 to 8 years old, the French Mastiff was a friends dog that this family were looking after while she was on holiday. It looks to me like the woman was naive dog lover looking to do some good for an abandoned dog, it is clear from the photos that Lexi loved dogs too, but I feel the re homing centre are the ones at fault here, they didn't know enough about the dog to rehome it with a family with a small child. I feel desperately sorry for her as the advice she was given was completely wrong and now she has lost her child.
She was told the dog was fine with kids and that was a lie.
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Ah yes of course, one of our dogs is a rescue dog as well, we've had him 13 years now, he's was only around 1 and a half when we got him (he's a border collie cross) and he's the loveliest friendliest dog ever, he just adores people. But it's like you say, you have to be sensible when it comes to kids and dogs, for both the dog and the childs sakes and i think those bigger dogs, like bull terriers, mastiffs, rottweilers etc shouldn't be taken from a rescue centre by someone who has children or doesn't have the proper time and dedication to looking after the dog properly. Basically if you have a child, you shouldn't rescue an animal that could actually kill your child in front of you and you wouldn't be able to do anything about it
100% agree ,these dogs would be better homed with people who have experience at handling those kinds of dogs,they probably make nice pets for people without kids .
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I think rescue dogs are bearing the brunt of this. The bottom line for me is that you should never, ever leave a young child alone with a dog. Any dog. Ever.
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