[Jake.]

Originally Posted by the truth

I didn't say that ...I said 12% of primary teachers are male. that's a FACT

Nope, check your OP again. Says nothing about primary education

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Honestly, I think part of the reason males chose not to work with young kids is because of the amount of stories about perverted male teachers. Its kind of..tainted the profession for them, which is sad as obviously not all are dodgy. But how high profile the odd few cases are make some people a bit more uneasy about males teaching their kids :/

sadly true to a degree..not sure if perversion is any higher now than before or abuse? or is it just highlighted more?...so the hysteria is damaging our kids education and innocent mens lives. incidentally the amount of domestic abuse from male/female isn't as big a disparity as youd think. the men tend to commit far more fo the headline grabbing abuse though. Males are not allowed to work as carers or assitants to females in many jobs. even after all criminal record and all background checks males escorting disabled female children to college. not sure if that's essential but its a sad reflection on society really...as for teachers though clearly men don't feel comfortable to enter the profession. Id suggest positive discrimination with some male only shortlists and no Im not trolling, the gap here is ridiculous and is damaging kids education

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snowjakes

Nope, check your OP again. Says nothing about primary education

check the many many other posts on the same thread its really quite simple

[Vicky.]

I honestly do not see how it is damaging kids education. All teachers stick to the curriculum, male or female. They would be teaching the same stuff.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by the truth

check the many many other posts on the same thread its really quite simple

It's also simple to state the facts in the OP. Saying 'FACT, only 12% of teachers of male' is hardly valid. And you've said the same in many other posts tbh

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I honestly do not see how it is damaging kids education. All teachers stick to the curriculum, male or female. They would be teaching the same stuff.

Exactly. This is applying to Primary Education, not Secondary. As long as children learn and develop the skills needed to enter further education, there is no problem who it is taught by. I was mainly taught by women during Primary school, didn't affect my results in the slightest.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I honestly do not see how it is damaging kids education.

you don't think male and female brains are different? you don't think some male teachers may prove beneficial to some boys? are you concerned how far behind boys are falling? why is that? is it linked to have a total collapse in primary school male teachers? do you think it would be acceptable to have 88% men in parliament and 12% women? if not why not? whats the difference? isn't our kids primary education important too?

[Vicky.]

Also I dont think a male only shortlist type idea would work at all. If the problem is that not many males want to get into that line of work in the first place because of whatever reason..

Most schools are crying out for teachers at the moment. If there were surplus trained staff, male or female, they would be snapped up

[Shaun]

someone needs to get laid

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by the truth

you don't think male and female brains are different? you don't think some male teachers may prove beneficial to some boys? are you concerned how far behind boys are falling? why is that? is it linked to have a total collapse in primary school male teachers? do you think it would be acceptable to have 88% men in parliament and 12% women? if not why not? whats the difference? isn't our kids primary education important too?

What about male teachers being 'beneficial' to female pupils and vice versa? Or does that not happen?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

you don't think male and female brains are different? you don't think some male teachers may prove beneficial to some boys? are you concerned how far behind boys are falling? why is that? is it linked to have a total collapse in primary school male teachers? do you think it would be acceptable to have 88% men in parliament and 12% women? if not why not? whats the difference? isn't our kids primary education important too?

I dont give a **** about parliament at all and dont really see what relevance that has to anything in this thread? I dont think the sex of the person doing the job affects the job at all. No.

The ONLY time I think gender matters (and I will be crucified for saying this probably) is in jobs where strength is important. As I do believe in general, men are stronger than women.

Edit. Also, strangely enough, I don't feel as safe with a female pilot. I dont know why, just never have done

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snowjakes

Exactly. This is applying to Primary Education, not Secondary. As long as children learn and develop the skills needed to enter further education, there is no problem who it is taught by. I was mainly taught by women during Primary school, didn't affect my results in the slightest.

firstly that's difficult to prove...secondly theres tens of millions of kids, your own experience cannot be applied to them all. clearly the boys are falling ever further behind and the education overall is also falling further behind.
clearly we need more male teachers, especially primary. 12% is a disgrace and if it was women at 12% the government and the media would be al over it. dangerous double standards.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

It's too hot right now to take part in this (central heating)

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by the truth

firstly that's difficult to prove...secondly theres tens of millions of kids, your own experience cannot be applied to them all. clearly the boys are falling ever further behind and the education overall is also falling further behind.
clearly we need more male teachers, especially primary. 12% is a disgrace and if it was women at 12% the government and the media would be al over it. dangerous double standards.

And so is the point of boys 'failing' because a lower percentage of males are teaching in Primary education. Just like your own experience cannot be applied, male and female pupils are going to fail and thrive no matter what the sex of the teacher is. If the curriculum is taught and carried out properly, the sex of the teacher doesn't play a part. They say the same general words. They write the same general stuff on the board. They teach in the same general way. Because they have to.

[MTVN]

I think in some ways it would be good for there to be more male teachers, gender doesn't affect how good you are at teaching but it is a very personal job especially at primary school, the staff there play quite a big part in shaping how kids grow up and the boys might prefer and benefit from having a male role model

That said the primary school I went to never had a male teacher the whole time I was there and it didn't do any harm, though I did resent how female dominated it was

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Also I dont think a male only shortlist type idea would work at all. If the problem is that not many males want to get into that line of work in the first place because of whatever reason..

Most schools are crying out for teachers at the moment. If there were surplus trained staff, male or female, they would be snapped up

but women only shortlists for parliament are fine? banning men from running for their own seat in a democracy? total contradiction and double standards. if its good enough for women to get positive discrimination then its good enough for men when theyre such a tiny minority in such a vital sector which is failing hopelessly partly because its so female dominated and the environment is far more conducive to women than men. no wonder the boys fall ever further behind, its a disgrace

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snowjakes

And so is the point of boys 'failing' because a lower percentage of males are teaching in Primary education. Just like your own experience cannot be applied, male and female pupils are going to fail and thrive no matter what the sex of the teacher is. If the curriculum is taught and carried out properly, the sex of the teacher doesn't play a part. They say the same general words. They write the same general stuff on the board. They teach in the same general way. Because they have to.

total double standards, we demand more women into parliament undemocratically with women only shortlists and men banned from running from their own seat? because women supposedly bring different qualities to men...yet when we apply the same rules in reverse you turn it down. that is total complete and utter hypocrisy. you cant have your cake and eat it. clearly according to the feminist women bring different skills and experiences to men....that by default means men bring different skills and experiences too.
so that's clearly therefore one massive reason we neeed more male teachers and male role models for kids. the imbalance shouldn't be tolerated in this feminism controlled environment. where are the people looking for equal opportunities and fighting for the minority now?

[Jake.]

stop talking about parliament, I really couldn't give a ****

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snowjakes

What about male teachers being 'beneficial' to female pupils and vice versa? Or does that not happen?

yes that does happen , but with 12% its not as beneficial as it should be

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

but women only shortlists for parliament are fine? banning men from running for their own seat in a democracy? total contradiction and double standards. if its good enough for women to get positive discrimination then its good enough for men when theyre such a tiny minority in such a vital sector which is failing hopelessly partly because its so female dominated and the environment is far more conducive to women than men. no wonder the boys fall ever further behind, its a disgrace

I didnt even know there were women only shortlists for parliament. No I dont agree with that either.

I don't agree with any kind of discrimination, positive or negative. And this includes a new scheme that I only found out about recently, where disabled applicants are guaranteed an interview if they apply for a job.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snowjakes

stop talking about parliament, I really couldn't give a ****

Iltalk about what I like. you want to avoid it because you cant argue against it and it totally exposes the shallowness and double standards of yours and the equal opportunity feminist argument for positive discrimination

[Jake.]

Have you looked into how many male teachers actually apply for jobs in Primary education compared to Secondary? It's all well and good spouting '12%' this and '12%' that but surely primary schools who felt the need for more male students would hire them? Anyways, thanks for insulting me once more, think I'm done with your trolling for the evening.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snowjakes

Have you looked into how many male teachers actually apply for jobs in Primary education compared to Secondary? It's all well and good spouting '12%' this and '12%' that but surely primary schools who felt the need for more male students would hire them? Anyways, thanks for insulting me once more, think I'm done with your trolling for the evening.

yeah go and quit troll

[Jake.]

And no I didn't wish to avoid it because I'm 'shallow' or 'spineless', but because we are talking about the percentage of males who are present in primary education. But of course, I'm the troll, nice one.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snowjakes

And no I didn't wish to avoid it because I'm 'shallow' or 'spineless', but because we are talking about the percentage of males who are present in primary education. But of course, I'm the troll, nice one.

Yes you are. I am being sincere. I have put in a lot of energy and facts into this thread and you have provided nothing. You have also insulted me too, but I don't care. Im bigger than that I care more about the bigger issue at stake here, than my own ego...Ill hapilly sacrifice myself at the alter, ban me burn me, whatever...Ill fight for the truth as I see it...in this case the case in point is the education collapse and the disastrous drive fo radical feminism that's damaging every sector of our society