[Jezzy]

Catweazle, I was left a single parent when my two were 30 months and 19 months respectively. Never once did I leave them alone, not even to pop across the road for a paper.

[Kazanne]

There are so many unanswered questions in this case,I have found things out I never even knew about like the fridge that he dumped from the apartment that wasn't even his to dump,wtf? I'm not accusing them ,but WHY wouldn't they take a lie detector?Why do so many things not add up?God knows what happened but I do think in someway her parents were involved and why weren't they charged with child neglect at least.

[chuff me dizzy]

British police cannot arrest anyone in this case, it is, and always will be a Portuguese case ,dont let the tabloids fool you, this is just another smoke screen set up by McCanns and Clarence mitchell to try to ocver up the fact they are losing the libel case ongoing in Portugal with Amaral who wrote a book based on police files (Portuguese, and Uk) where it resulted BOTH police forces know McCann guilty

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

British police cannot arrest anyone in this case, it is, and always will be a Portuguese case ,dont let the tabloids fool you, this is just another smoke screen set up by McCanns and Clarence mitchell to try to ocver up the fact they are losing the libel case ongoing in Portugal with Amaral who wrote a book based on police files (Portuguese, and Uk) where it resulted BOTH police forces know McCann guilty

I read the boot chuff.. It convinced me of their innocence moreso.

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I read the boot chuff.. It convinced me of their innocence moreso.

Are you another that believes that the sniffer dog evidence should be dismissed? If so, why? Genuine question, not provoking you.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Jezzy

Are you another that believes that the sniffer dog evidence should be dismissed? If so, why? Genuine question, not provoking you.

Like it was in the Shannon Matthews case? Yes, definitely.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I read the boot chuff.. It convinced me of their innocence moreso.

Read this ,its where all case facts are ,including witness statements,videos,take time to read GASPAR STATEMENTS you will see what behind this case ........ http://www.mccannfiles.com/

[Jezzy]

Let's not forget either that there was a night creche operating onsite for those parents who did want a night out on their own...

[chuff me dizzy]

It has also come out since Crimewatch ,that the "new "efits that Redwood called "CRITICAL evidence, were suppressed by McCanns for 5 years !!!! They even went to the lengths of threatening to sue the "Private investigaters " (never worked on a missing child case before, specialised in money laundering ??) if they let the efit leak out, Why would McCanns do that I here you ask ? ....because the efit, was of the man the ONLY true witness that night Martin Smith and his family ,named to be GERRY MCCANN ,I know from forums ,twitter that THOUSANDS have rung crimewatch naming the efit as being Gerry McCann

[Jezzy]

In the Shannon Matthews case, the dogs alerted to there having been a corpse. Obviously it wasn't Shannon's, yet there had been deaths there. The Ocean Club categorically stated that there had been NO deaths in that apartment prior to Madeleine's case.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Jezzy

In the Shannon Matthews case, the dogs alerted to there having been a corpse. Obviously it wasn't Shannon's, yet there had been deaths there. The Ocean Club categorically stated that there had been NO deaths in that apartment prior to Madeleine's case.

No there hadn't been deaths in the Matthews case.. There was second hand furniture in the house which had previously been in a house where somebody had died.

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

No there hadn't been deaths in the Matthews case.. There was second hand furniture in the house which had previously been in a house where somebody had died.

So, you agree that they were smelling death?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Jezzy

So, you agree that they were smelling death?

The cadaver dog alerted to a scent, but without forensic evidence (of which there was none) to back up the dogs reaction, they prove nothing.

And of course, there's the very important fact that Kate regularly came into contact with dead bodies as part if her job.

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

And of course, there's the very important fact that Kate regularly came into contact with dead bodies as part if her job.

In her holiday clothes?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

The cadaver dog alerted to a scent, but without forensic evidence (of which there was none) to back up the dogs reaction, they prove nothing.

And of course, there's the very important fact that Kate regularly came into contact with dead bodies as part if her job.

Kate was on part time when they went on holiday ,but according to her mother, she had declared 6 (SIX)people dead in the last few days before going on holiday ,thats a better record than Harold Shipman !!

[Livia]

Wow... this thread. Sometimes the Internet sucks the big one.

[Vicky.]

Sorry but if anyone agrees that it is perfectly fine to leave young kids alone so you can go for a meal/out on the drink..especially in a foreign country and AFTER your child already told you they were crying alone for hours the night before...then they arent fit to be a parent themselves.

[Kazanne]

Jezzy I have found this one but its not the one I read I will look for that one aswell
http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.n...443-the-fridge

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Jezzy I have found this one but its not the one I read I will look for that one aswell
http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.n...443-the-fridge

Thanks lovely, I will have a read.

[Kazanne]

And here's another interesting read
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/p...E_29_09_07.htm

[MTVN]

Anyone getting a strange feeling of deja vu

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Anyone getting a strange feeling of deja vu

Hehe..it's *always* going to be a bone of contention / popular topic to debate...it's one of the great modern mysteries...

[Shaun]

I find the whole subject far too sensitive and really don't know why people bother getting so worked up about it, either side of the fence. I'm generally of the "innocent until proven guilty" camp but I'm not going to pretend my 'instincts' or 'my hunch' or 'how they seem' matters for even one darn second.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I find the whole subject far too sensitive and really don't know why people bother getting so worked up about it, either side of the fence. I'm generally of the "innocent until proven guilty" camp but I'm not going to pretend my 'instincts' or 'my hunch' or 'how they seem' matters for even one darn second.

Thankfully evidence beats hunches/instincts unless its a tv series

[Crimson Dynamo]

The fact that most of the bog standard conspiracy theorists fail to grasp is that if it had not been that night it most likely would have been in the days after. A committed paedophile will steal a child.