[Forgetmenot]

Well if she is this hard faced and sarcastic at 18 whst will she be like in ten years time! Sulky, spoilt,dour faced, bitchy, snide and never entertaining.crying to go home but now thinks its smart to follow Toya 's advice, honestly, I despair!

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No. Surprisingly, unlike Ashleigh, Helen wanted to be fair and make sure everyone was involved in the decisions. Ashleigh tried to get everyone behind Helen's back.

PMSL. Had Helen got her way it would have been Steven, Marlon and Ash saved. And she would have got her way had Ashleigh not been there and it had only been Danielle.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jords

Ashleigh manipulated the situation so that the HMs believed they had to pick between Marlon and Ash - knowing that Marlon would be the majority choice. Jale quite annoyingly suggested playing 'devil's advocate' by suggesting picking between Chris and Steven but she managed to shot it down within a minute. She made it look like her and Danielle were really on board with saving Steven and Marlon, as not to look selfish and to get what they really want, a nominated and hopefully evicted Ash.

Great work and deserves a lot of credit. Good viewing watching it all plan out too. Yeah shes miserable but watching the likes of Helen, Ash, Steven etc. makes me just as miserable

That is exactly what happened. She manipulated the whole thing from beginning to end. There is a lot of re - writing of history going on here. Funny to watch the squirming and twisting.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

PMSL. Had Helen got her way it would have been Steven, Marlon and Ash saved. And she would have got her way had Ashleigh not been there and it had only been Danielle.

Yes, of course there'd have been different scenarios if each girl had got their own way. That's perfectly natural and normal.

The difference is Helen didn't rally Jale and Kimberley to purposely vote against Ashleigh and Danielle's preferences.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes, of course there'd have been different scenarios if each girl had got their own way. That's perfectly natural and normal.

The difference is Helen didn't rally Jale and Kimberley to purposely vote against Ashleigh and Danielle's preferences.

Helen thought she had it all going her own way already and wouldn't need to.

[rionablue]

She is going to get a shock when she is up for eviction next week and it will be all her own fault. She has become a spiteful little bitch and a discredit to the Irish. I have no IDEA how she even got into the house. No pool party cos of her boyfriend and no looking at the strippers cos of her boyfriend. Ash was going to be up this week no matter what she said cos Kim and Jale weren't going to save him. I hope she just walks out of there and get the first plane home. Sorry

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes, of course there'd have been different scenarios if each girl had got their own way. That's perfectly natural and normal.

The difference is Helen didn't rally Jale and Kimberley to purposely vote against Ashleigh and Danielle's preferences.

Did you not hear Helen boast on several occasions that she would get her way in a threatening manner?
You are also overlooking the fact that the girls like Ash the least of the boys anyway!

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by rionablue

She is going to get a shock when she is up for eviction next week and it will be all her own fault. She has become a spiteful little bitch and a discredit to the Irish. I have no IDEA how she even got into the house. No pool party cos of her boyfriend and no looking at the strippers cos of her boyfriend. Ash was going to be up this week no matter what she said cos Kim and Jale weren't going to save him. I hope she just walks out of there and get the first plane home. Sorry

I think she's waiting to be evicted anyway.

And she got into the house because of what she pulled off tonight, which was great fun to watch.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

You are also overlooking the fact that the girls like Ash the least of the boys anyway!

No. I think you'll find that was actually my point.

Ashleigh or no Ashleigh, plan or no plan. Ash was NEVER being saved.

So this master plan to put Ash up by the super Ashleigh was bull.

[Mystic Mock]

Nice hair, nice legs, nice ass, a pretty face, and a bitch at it.

What's not to be impressed by?

[newsbb]

she managed to put his nemesis up even over the pshycho witch that is helen and ger ugly sidecicks! SHES AMAZIN

[Marsh.]

The accent.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

I'm loving her from the clips I've seen.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No. I think you'll find that was actually my point.

Ashleigh or no Ashleigh, plan or no plan. Ash was NEVER being saved.

So this master plan to put Ash up by the super Ashleigh was bull.

Come off it. Kimberly would have got Steven safe, Jale would have got Marlon safe and Helen would have got Ash safe, and Danielle would not have got a look in.

[US Nacho]

Her one and only personality trait that she's shown since the show started is hating Helen in private behind her back. What is there to like? Even though Helen is the worst kind of person, there's nothing admirable about crawling into a corner with Danielle and whispering about how much you hate her. Enough is enough, we get it.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by US Nacho

Her one and only personality trait that she's shown since the show started is hating Helen in private behind her back.

It is amazing how you can come to that view when anyone watching can see that Helen knows full well Ashleigh can't stand her. She does and says things right in front of her that lets Helen know what she thinks.

What is there to like?

Confident, clever and, for me, funny... Some of you are clinging on to this idea that because she has a bitch with Danielle about the others (Mostly about Helen/Ash) that somehow she's a coward. But they all know full well how she feels about them. And her opinions on them are right. They are vulgar and disgusting.

Even though Helen is the worst kind of person, there's nothing admirable about crawling into a corner with Danielle and whispering about how much you hate her. Enough is enough, we get it.

Seems like a good idea to me if you feel the need to vent your frustration of living with someone you don't like. What's the alternative if you can't bite your tongue? Go to the diary room like Chris and assassinate their character to the viewing audience? Is that any better? Scream in their face like Helen?

[DrunkerThanMoses]

She is pathetic, cant wait for her to be gone next week

[jegmeister]

I find the hypocritical inconsistency breath taking OP. I agree with you.

There are some people - particularly on a Forum that shall not be named * coughs digital spy coughs* that is currently swamped with threads calling her "an evil witch", saying she will be up as soon as she's out etc.

I think I must be living in a parallel universe. I don't expect people to be Mother Theresa and if they do anything that offends some unrealistic morality code, start jumping up and down, change my mind 180 degrees and want them evicted. It's amazing how easy it is to manipulate the audience on this show.

Helen's fake tears and phoney "change" in her behaviour is all down to the warnings she has had. As far as I am concerned, she shouldn't still be there. She has had more than enough warnings to have been booted out but the producers are more concerned about ratings than what is right.

I like Ashleigh. She is doing exactly what I would do - fighting back against the nasty bully and beating her at her own game. If that is being spiteful and malicious, well you can add my name to the list of people who are spiteful and malicious. Unless you're a committed Christian and don't believe in it, I can't for the life of me see how anyone in a similar situation to people in that house would not want revenge - it wouldn't be normal otherwise.

It serves Helen right. She has got exactly what she deserves and it is Ashleigh who has engineered it. Without her direct involvement, Helen would have got her wish and that slimeball Ash would have crawled back up Helen's backside for another week.

I am loving every minute of it.

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

An 18 year old girl holding court in the manner she did was just superb. And she got exactly what she wanted

back you all the way - just wrote a poem on how perceptive she is. she is good stuff and it is amazing she is only 18.

[camertone]

ashleigh is just as vile as helen, maybe even more so..

[aimat2]

Ashleighs brill shes got Helen ...Helen knows Ashleigh will not back down so cant rule her

[karezza]

I hate everything about Ashleigh.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes, of course there'd have been different scenarios if each girl had got their own way. That's perfectly natural and normal.

The difference is Helen didn't rally Jale and Kimberley to purposely vote against Ashleigh and Danielle's preferences.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by waterhog

back you all the way - just wrote a poem on how perceptive she is. she is good stuff and it is amazing she is only 18.

How did she get what she wanted? Ash was put up by BB and although it's probable he will go,IF he doesn't how will THAT sit with her?

[CorfuOrBust]

Originally Posted by rionablue

She is going to get a shock when she is up for eviction next week and it will be all her own fault. She has become a spiteful little bitch and a discredit to the Irish. I have no IDEA how she even got into the house. No pool party cos of her boyfriend and no looking at the strippers cos of her boyfriend. Ash was going to be up this week no matter what she said cos Kim and Jale weren't going to save him. I hope she just walks out of there and get the first plane home. Sorry

You need not worry about her becoming a discredit to the Irish because she is actually BRITISH!!

Just because you have an Irish accent doesn't make you Irish.