[Marsh.]

I can't find a video on it but I do know at least 2 of her warnings have been shown in the highlights. One after the whole "slug" incident when she was told off for making people feel ostracised and then one after the spin the bottle argument for getting into Matthew's face.

I suppose if you can track down the date of the highlights show with the "Were you listening?" stuff, you might find the warning in that episode.

[Verbal]

So I think we can quite safely assume that no video exists of this phantom warning, so it didn't happen.

Unless of course Ch 5 are up to their old tricks again and are fixing it

[Marsh.]

That's because you're looking for isolated clips. They don't make stand alone clips of every single moment in the house.

Like I said, if you are so interested in finding this other warning then your best bet is the highlights shows. Channel 5 have uploaded all of them from launch night to Demand 5.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's because you're looking for isolated clips. They don't make stand alone clips of every single moment in the house.

Like I said, if you are so interested in finding this other warning then your best bet is the highlights shows. Channel 5 have uploaded all of them from launch night to Demand 5.

I've searched 'Helen warning' and 'Helen formal warning' what other search terms would you recommend?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Verbal

I've searched 'Helen warning' and 'Helen formal warning' what other search terms would you recommend?

You aren't going to find it like that if there wasn't an isolated clip of it though

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You aren't going to find it like that if there wasn't an isolated clip of it though

That is why I asked what do I search for.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Verbal

I've searched 'Helen warning' and 'Helen formal warning' what other search terms would you recommend?

Did you just ignore my post?

They are in the HIGHLIGHTS SHOWS, the full episodes. They don't make an individual video for each moment or incident.

And if rumours are to be believed they'd need to open a separate blog if they were to record every warning she's had.

Find the highlights show from around the time of the "slug" incident.

[Jack_]

I'm a Helen fan and she was definitely reprimanded (not an official formal warning) about 'behaviour which could be deemed to be bullying' after the Jale incident early on in the series

However, that reprimand came after days and days of screaming and wailing online that they weren't doing anything about her behaviour and so they were backed into a corner and felt like they had to do something to shut people up. Helen hasn't bullied anyone, she has been a **** to people and been unnecessarily cutting and nasty in isolated incidents, but nobody has been bullied this series.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I'm a Helen fan and she was definitely reprimanded (not an official formal warning) about 'behaviour which could be deemed to be bullying' after the Jale incident early on in the series

However, that reprimand came after days and days of screaming and wailing online that they weren't doing anything about her behaviour and so they were backed into a corner and felt like they had to do something to shut people up. Helen hasn't bullied anyone, she has been a **** to people and been unnecessarily cutting and nasty in isolated incidents, but nobody has been bullied this series.

Objection! That's speculation your Honour


(thanks for saying you remembered what I was talking about though)

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I'm a Helen fan and she was definitely reprimanded (not an official formal warning) about 'behaviour which could be deemed to be bullying' after the Jale incident early on in the series

However, that reprimand came after days and days of screaming and wailing online that they weren't doing anything about her behaviour and so they were backed into a corner and felt like they had to do something to shut people up. Helen hasn't bullied anyone, she has been a **** to people and been unnecessarily cutting and nasty in isolated incidents, but nobody has been bullied this series.

Like I said, if footage exists and I see it where the word bullying is mentioned during a warning. Then I can do nothing more than concede. But until that time...

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Like I said, if footage exists and I see it where the word bullying is mentioned during a warning. Then I can do nothing more than concede. But until that time...

The word is mentioned, but it is 'behaviour which could be deemed to be bullying' because as I said the only reason they pulled her up on it was because most people online were moaning they weren't doing anything and some were even complaining to Ofcom (as if that would do anything, it'd make it worse)

You'll need to go and search the episodes back on Demand 5. I can't remember if it happened in an episode I caught up on from when I was away over the weekend of 12th June - 15th June or whether it was on the Monday 16th/Tuesday 17th. I'm pretty sure it was one of those episodes that week though, I returned to see people on here complaining about bullying, I was worried to watch the episodes back to see it unfold and once I had I thought everything had been blown way out of proportion, I have a feeling they reprimanded her early in the week beginning Monday 16th

The only way you are going to find it is if you skim through the episodes on Demand 5. It definitely happened though

[Niamh.]

]

“Name calling, persistent ridiculing and behaviour that results in an individual becoming ostracized from the group are all types of behaviour that can be perceived as bullying,” asserted Big Brother.

Read more: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/bb15/news/061...#ixzz36z8GBlvz

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

]

“Name calling, persistent ridiculing and behaviour that results in an individual becoming ostracized from the group are all types of behaviour that can be perceived as bullying,” asserted Big Brother.

Read more: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/bb15/news/061...#ixzz36z8GBlvz

See! You can do it. Well done!

"types of behaviour that can be perceived as bullying"


Is not bullying.

You can't go to Court and be convicted because someone perceives you to be a mass murderer.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Verbal

See! You can do it. Well done!

"types of behaviour that can be perceived as bullying"


Is not bullying.

You can't go to Court and be convicted because someone perceives you to be a mass murderer.

Well, physically murdering someone is a more black and white issue I would have thought then deciding what does and does not constitute as bullying, not really comparable Verbal and why on Earth would Big Brother warn someone and use the word bullying if she was doing nothing of the sort?

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, physically murdering someone is a more black and white issue I would have thought then deciding what does and does not constitute as bullying, not really comparable Verbal and why on Earth would Big Brother warn someone and use the word bullying if she was doing nothing of the sort?

Because people get butthurt and ring Ofcom, which gets them in trouble. Then they have to be seen as taking action.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Because people get butthurt and ring Ofcom, which gets them in trouble. Then they have to be seen as taking action.

I disagree, if they were doing what the people wanted they would have kicked her out or atleast revoked her pass by now. Anyway, we're going round in circles here, you don't think she's a vile bully, I do. The End.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, physically murdering someone is a more black and white issue I would have thought then deciding what does and does not constitute as bullying, not really comparable Verbal and why on Earth would Big Brother warn someone and use the word bullying if she was doing nothing of the sort?

Because people were complaining and having a meltdown online that whole weekend that they weren't doing anything and it was starting to get media attention so to quieten people down they gave people what they wanted

If she actually was bullying people they'd say 'Big Brother deems this behaviour to be bullying and is issuing you with a formal warning' (there's no interpretation mentioned whenever they are serious about a warning), the fact they said it could be interpreted as bullying speaks volumes about whether they consider it to be IMO and I think it's basically saying 'a lot of the viewers think it's bullying so we're telling you'

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Because people were complaining and having a meltdown online that whole weekend that they weren't doing anything and it was starting to get media attention so to quieten people down they gave people what they wanted

If she actually was bullying people they'd say 'Big Brother deems this behaviour to be bullying and is issuing you with a formal warning' (there's no interpretation mentioned whenever they are serious about a warning), the fact they said it could be interpreted as bullying speaks volumes about whether they consider it to be IMO and I think it's basically saying 'a lot of the viewers think it's bullying so we're telling you'

Exactly what Jack said.

The end.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Because people were complaining and having a meltdown online that whole weekend that they weren't doing anything and it was starting to get media attention so to quieten people down they gave people what they wanted

If she actually was bullying people they'd say 'Big Brother deems this behaviour to be bullying and is issuing you with a formal warning' (there's no interpretation mentioned whenever they are serious about a warning), the fact they said it could be interpreted as bullying speaks volumes about whether they consider it to be IMO and I think it's basically saying 'a lot of the viewers think it's bullying so we're telling you'

defending the females in the house again jack, even ones as abusive and bullying as jack. if any man behaved like her to a woman, hed have been turfed out by now.

[Marsh.]

You asked for a clip of her receiving a warning where "the word bullying was mentioned".

Nobody said you had to agree it was bullying. It's always going to be a matter of opinion.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You asked for a clip of her receiving a warning where "the word bullying was mentioned".

Nobody said you had to agree it was bullying. It's always going to be a matter of opinion.

I said that she has not been warned for being a bully. She hasn't.

Just that some people might perceive her as one.

Doesn't make her a bully.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Verbal

I said that she has not been warned for being a bully. She hasn't.

Just that some people might perceive her as one.

Doesn't make her a bully.

You asked for a warning where the "word bullying was mentioned" you got it.

Nobody said it would prove conclusively and make you change your mind.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You asked for a warning where the "word bullying was mentioned" you got it.

Nobody said it would prove conclusively and make you change your mind.

What I meant was where she was warned for being a bully. I guess it didn't translate from my head in that way.

[Shaun]

Her problem is that she hides whatever point she may have in a haystack of shouting, insults and "****ing _____ ****ing _____ YOU ****ING ________"s.

[Marsh.]

"You cheeky ****ing bastard" does make me howl though.