[Marsh.]

And it's a fact Helen is there. The aim of the game is to stay there as long as possible, she got a finale pass, fair is fair.
Ashleigh would've been evicted a few previous times but avoided it via a twist, fair is fair.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Which is irrelevant to the point of the thread which is that they are both the last remaining original females.

You can't exclude Helen because she's been kept in via a twist, Ashleigh has too.

Okay, Tell us about the twist which kept Ashleigh in, and we'll compare it with Helen's free pass.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Okay, Tell us about the twist which kept Ashleigh in, and we'll compare it with Helen's free pass.

Compare it? They were both twists which take the game away from the very basic housemates nominate/public vote eviction process.

Helen was given a pass by Pauline in a twist from that format.

Week 2, Chris was the only housemate to nominate, everyone else was not eligible. A twist on the format.

Week 4, Big Brother granted all females immunity from Friday's eviction. A twist on the format.

Week 6, Big Brother decides on no public vote. A twist on the format.

Week 6, the new housemates are given the power to evict one housemate, they settle on Ashleigh. A twist on the format.

The new housemates face a public vote to save without knowing, Bianca is evicted leaving Pav and Zoe to rethink their decision and evict Danielle.

Twists, twists, twists. NOT A SINGLE housemate this series has been nominated, faced a public vote, survived or been evicted without some kind of twist involved.

The show may have turned out very differently had we had a regular nominations/eviction process. So to single Helen out as the only housemate whose time has been dictated by a twist is laughable.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Compare it? They were both twists which take the game away from the very basic housemates nominate/public vote eviction process.

Helen was given a pass by Pauline in a twist from that format.

Week 2, Chris was the only housemate to nominate, everyone else was not eligible. A twist on the format.

Week 4, Big Brother granted all females immunity from Friday's eviction. A twist on the format.

Week 6, Big Brother decides on no public vote. A twist on the format.

Week 6, the new housemates are given the power to evict one housemate, they settle on Ashleigh. A twist on the format.

The new housemates face a public vote to save without knowing, Bianca is evicted leaving Pav and Zoe to rethink their decision and evict Danielle.

Twists, twists, twists. NOT A SINGLE housemate this series has been nominated, faced a public vote, survived or been evicted without some kind of twist involved.

The show may have turned out very differently had we had a regular nominations/eviction process. So to single Helen out as the only housemate whose time has been dictated by a twist is laughable.

Would you answer the question I asked and stop wriggling? This thread is about Ashleigh being the top girl of the series. What twists has kept Asheligh in that didn't affect all the HM's or all the other female HM's. What direct advantage has she had that is in any way comparable to Helen's free pass?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Here is another fact.
Ashleigh has only been put in danger as a result of multiple twists.
Helen has NEVER been in danger EVER.

Exactly!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Would you answer the question I asked and stop wriggling? This thread is about Ashleigh being the top girl of the series. What twists has kept Asheligh in that didn't affect all the HM's or all the other female HM's. What direct advantage has she had that is in any way comparable to Helen's free pass?

I just listed the specific twists that had an effect on Ashleigh in the house.

I'm not wriggling from anything.

EVERY SINGLE housemate has had their safety or eviction come from a twist. That is my point.

But remain trapped in Ashleigh's anal cavity, she's been through so much after all. *sob*

[Yoshi888]

Ashleigh wins despite some bitchy girls hating on her heavies they are like sooooo jel of her natural hair and beauty

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Compare it? They were both twists which take the game away from the very basic housemates nominate/public vote eviction process.

Helen was given a pass by Pauline in a twist from that format.

Week 2, Chris was the only housemate to nominate, everyone else was not eligible. A twist on the format.

Week 4, Big Brother granted all females immunity from Friday's eviction. A twist on the format.

Week 6, Big Brother decides on no public vote. A twist on the format.

Week 6, the new housemates are given the power to evict one housemate, they settle on Ashleigh. A twist on the format.

The new housemates face a public vote to save without knowing, Bianca is evicted leaving Pav and Zoe to rethink their decision and evict Danielle.

Twists, twists, twists. NOT A SINGLE housemate this series has been nominated, faced a public vote, survived or been evicted without some kind of twist involved.

The show may have turned out very differently had we had a regular nominations/eviction process. So to single Helen out as the only housemate whose time has been dictated by a twist is laughable.

We don't often agree Marsh but this is a good post and well researched. And you are right. The whole ****ing series is dominated by twists. A twist every now and again is ok but it gets boring when its every single bloody week

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by rionablue

We don't often agree Marsh but this is a good post and well researched. And you are right. The whole ****ing series is dominated by twists. A twist every now and again is ok but it gets boring when its every single bloody week

Yep. I only included the twists which had an effect on Ashleigh but I could've listed one for every single week/every single eviction. The whole series has been dominated by them and no housemate has been untouched by it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yoshi888

Ashleigh wins despite some bitchy girls hating on her heavies they are like sooooo jel of her natural hair and beauty

You need to go and have a wank to let off some sexual tension or something.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I just listed the specific twists that had an effect on Ashleigh in the house.

I'm not wriggling from anything.

EVERY SINGLE housemate has had their safety or eviction come from a twist. That is my point.

But remain trapped in Ashleigh's anal cavity, she's been through so much after all. *sob*

Ahh, so you are backing out and throwing an insult on the way.
Ashleigh remains the undisputed original top female of the series.
And all Helen has is a free pass to nothing

[sampvt]

Helen has had a load of twists thrown at her and Ashleigh hasn't. Helen has been the most talked about and controversial contestant and Ashleigh spent 3 weeks on her bed. Helen has.........you know what, this whole argument is so bloody silly its turned into a na na na na na crappy school kids fight. The simple fact is that Ashleigh has been sheltered and helped along where as Helen has had crap thrown at her from day one so when all angles are considered, Helen is the most deserving HM and therefore the most deserving of our support. What entertainment has the silly dog hugging princess *******igh offered...... Yawn yawn.

[Marsh.]

I've not backed out, if you refuse to acknowledge what's being said that's your problem.

Continue acting as though the finale pass is the only twist this series.

[chuff me dizzy]

Im not a fan,but yes she's best female this series ,mind you not much competition with the rabble we've had this year

[jet]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Helen has had a load of twists thrown at her and Ashleigh hasn't. Helen has been the most talked about and controversial contestant and Ashleigh spent 3 weeks on her bed. Helen has.........you know what, this whole argument is so bloody silly its turned into a na na na na na crappy school kids fight. The simple fact is that Ashleigh has been sheltered and helped along where as Helen has had crap thrown at her from day one so when all angles are considered, Helen is the most deserving HM and therefore the most deserving of our support. What entertainment has the silly dog hugging princess *******igh offered...... Yawn yawn.

I'm out of here. I'll leave the loonies to it.

[Marsh.]

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Helen has had a load of twists thrown at her and Ashleigh hasn't. Helen has been the most talked about and controversial contestant and Ashleigh spent 3 weeks on her bed. Helen has.........you know what, this whole argument is so bloody silly its turned into a na na na na na crappy school kids fight. The simple fact is that Ashleigh has been sheltered and helped along where as Helen has had crap thrown at her from day one so when all angles are considered, Helen is the most deserving HM and therefore the most deserving of our support. What entertainment has the silly dog hugging princess *******igh offered...... Yawn yawn.

Are you pissed up ?

[poppsywoppsy]

What twists has Helen had, she hasn't had any, she still has her free pass.

Ash has had twists

Ashleigh has had twists, in fact they all have had twists while Helen is immune.

Give me entertainment which is not street corner cat fights from Helen which for some merits the entertainment label.

[Marsh.]

A free pass to the final is benefitting from a twist.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Are you pissed up ?

getting there, lol.

[Achilles]

Helen and Steven belong on shows like League of Gentlemen and Little Britain not Big Brother. Big Brother is supposed to be for normal people like it was in the good old days.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

getting there, lol.

Thought as much if you're praising the house *****

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Thought as much if you're praising the house *****

Im not praising her, I just think she is the most entertaining HM, but she is still a bitch. Arguing with these 2 is just passing time between sips and olives and waiting for the final instalment of the grease my palm story written by Kimberly and stars he hubby to be and deperado mother in the wings.

[Yoshi888]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You need to go and have a wank to let off some sexual tension or something.

Don't be crude don't be jel and don't be a bully or princess ash will kick you in the ...

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Im not praising her, I just think she is the most entertaining HM, but she is still a bitch. Arguing with these 2 is just passing time between sips and olives and waiting for the final instalment of the grease my palm story written by Kimberly and stars he hubby to be and deperado mother in the wings.

Without the pass she would have been gone week after Pauline if not instead of Pauline, hardly a well loved hm8