[waylander1973]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

'The former Strictly professional dancer revealed how he was forced to act like a carer to Gary, 70 – including clearing up his excrement.

“I think the way it was edited, the public saw him as a fun Hollywood superstar that’s a little bit eccentric, feeling sorry for him because people bullied him – that was not the case,” he told the Daily Star Online in an exclusive chat.

“12 people can’t come out of the house and all say the same thing and be wrong. He’s a vile, vile human being. Fact.”

He continued: “When I took him for a shower I saw parts of his body that no young man should have to see, especially when they’re not your family.

“Wiping his s*** off the toilet seat after he’s been to the toilet, and then he’s sitting at the table with s*** on his hands and you have to tell him to go and wash them.

“I’m not a baby sitter and I’m not a nurse and I’m not qualified to deal with those sorts of situations,” he added."



http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-br...le-human-being

He doesn't let up, does he??

I bought the paper today and in gary's interview he said that every housemate was rude towards him but james and george was the worst.

And gary says I wasn't rude - they were rude to me. james and george especially. they were a tandem team of rudeness every day.

If this the case is only audley was not rude towards him according to gary.

Can't find it on line by the way.

[Tip]

Originally Posted by waylander1973

I bought the paper today and in gary's interview he said that every housemate was rude towards him but james and george was the worst.

And gary says I wasn't rude - they were rude to me. james and george especially. they were a tandem team of rudeness every day.

If this is only audley was not rude towards him according to gary.

Can't find it on line by the way.

Lol, even Frenchy.

I reckon each and everyone of them could call the other rude and find examples if they wanted to. Hope this all doesn't go on too long as it is not exactly doing anyone any favours now.

[ThriceShy]

When did this poo on the hands incident happen?

It seems odd that it was never shown or mentioned in the programme, but the shower thing was.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

When did this poo on the hands incident happen?

It seems odd that it was never shown or mentioned in the programme, but the shower thing was.

Tbh the more I think about it the more I find the scenario hard to believe. The way they kicked off about every little thing there would have been pandemonian if even a snif of **** was whiffed. Also they would have been in the diary room bitching about it every opportunity and it would have been brought up in noms. They were hardly a group of people to hold back until they came out. Stephanie made it up and James has jumped on it to try to vindicate himself.

[bots]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Tbh the more I think about it the more I find the scenario hard to believe. The way they kicked off about every little thing there would have been pandemonian if even a snif of **** was whiffed. Also they would have been in the diary room bitching about it every opportunity and it would have been brought up in noms. They were hardly a group of people to hold back until they came out. Stephanie made it up and James has jumped on it to try to vindicate himself.

I'm sure given the nature of the contracts that they all had, that any excessive issues related to hygiene would come under the health and safety at work act and various other safeguards that everyone is entitled too whether they are in the BB house or not. Clearly, nothing has been breached there as you can guarantee they would have jumped on it to remove Gary from the house

As so many have alluded to already, there is nothing new in any of these areas, the issues have recurred over and over in previous big brothers without it raising more than the odd snigger here and there. They all realised that Gary had the beating of them, and when they couldn't compete "fairly" they chose to gang up on him, and use every underhand tactic at their disposal. The fact that Dee stated on bots that they all treated Gary horribly, is all the evidence required. If they had been justified in their actions, it wouldn't by definition, have been horrible.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Hate to say it but I agree with him.

12 other people cant be wrong, are we all really that gullable and believing the edit over the actual people who have lived with him?

Don't get me wrong I loved Gary as a housemate but these people had to live with him and from what 99% of them are saying its clear we were only shown one side of Garys character.

[Marymayo]

12 people did not agree with James, James/Dee gang agreed.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Hate to say it but I agree with him.

12 other people cant be wrong, are we all really that gullable and believing the edit over the actual people who have lived with him?

Don't get me wrong I loved Gary as a housemate but these people had to live with him and from what 99% of them are saying its clear we were only shown one side of Garys character.

We were shown all of Gary's character watch all the videos he has made in chat shows, other reality shows. They are hilarious.

We saw him naked in the shower, BOTS thought that was also hilarious, we saw him take his trousers down in the kitchen and adjust his knee thing. We also saw George take his pants down and James flick him with a tea towel. We know that Lauren peed in the pool, we know that George drank the water. We heard Gary say "what" numerous times, his hearing was a bit of a bind for him.

Watch the cartoon video again with Meatloaf, that is hilarious but it is him. That lot made the mistake of treating him like a lesser being, possibly because they were in awe of him, afraid of him who knows, possibly they realised he could win and did all they could to turn the tables on him. They knew he was a legend. Sadly no matter what they came off worse in a lot of peoples eyes and this is what this series will be remembered for. It was a game and they all tried to win in their own way.

Dee had the nerve to say on BOTS that they began to be nice to him because they thought we would vote him out. Edelle said he was easy pickings, we could go on and on and on. Edelle also asked Audley why didnt he nominate Gary instead of her. Audley and Frenchy were the only true ones who didnt belong in the sheep pen they had minds of their own.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Jules2

We were shown all of Gary's character watch all the videos he has made in chat shows, other reality shows. They are hilarious.

We saw him naked in the shower, BOTS thought that was also hilarious, we saw him take his trousers down in the kitchen and adjust his knee thing. We also saw George take his pants down and James flick him with a tea towel. We know that Lauren peed in the pool, we know that George drank the water. We heard Gary say "what" numerous times, his hearing was a bit of a bind for him.

Watch the cartoon video again with Meatloaf, that is hilarious but it is him. That lot made the mistake of treating him like a lesser being, possibly because they were in awe of him, afraid of him who knows, possibly they realised he could win and did all they could to turn the tables on him. They knew he was a legend. Sadly no matter what they came off worse in a lot of peoples eyes and this is what this series will be remembered for. It was a game and they all tried to win in their own way.

Dee had the nerve to say on BOTS that they began to be nice to him because they thought we would vote him out. Edelle said he was easy pickings, we could go on and on and on. Edelle also asked Audley why didnt he nominate Gary instead of her. Audley and Frenchy were the only true ones who didnt belong in the sheep pen they had minds of their own.

[ThriceShy]

So many sore losers over this result. It has to be the best result ever.

[jegmeister]

The issue of whether or not Gary should have gone in is irrelevant. He was in there and the other HMs should have accepted it.

Does anyone honestly think Gary was constantly leaving excrement all over the place - massive exaggeration. If so, why didn't they all go en masse to BB and demand the place be cleared out. Perhaps it happened once or twice as might be the case with a brain damaged elderly man - in which case, you simply accept it and move on.

Initially James tried helping Gary but as soon as he heard boos for him and cheers for Gary, he changed. He was damn sure he was going to try to mentally break him down and get him to shout or be aggressive back so he would look bad. Most of them knew he was their main competition and they couldn't stand it - so they did everything they could to bully, humiliate and ridicule him.

If had been unpopular and booed all the time, you can bet your life nothing would have been said. James and Dee are colossal bad losers and ultimately stupid too - if you hear someone getting cheers all the time and you get boos, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise what might be going on.

But what is the most unforgiveable of all is that they will not let it go. After the show would have been the perfect opportunity to bury the hatchet, wish him well, say no hard feelings it was just a game, congratulations on your win. And at least leave him with a modicum of dignity. The fact they are trying to character assassinate him in the most degrading way shows 2 people who are unspeakably cruel and heartless. They simply don't care. And for that, they deserve every bit of bile they get from every quarter.

[Marymayo]

It is now time James and Dee got over the fact that Gary won, no matter what they say, the majority of voters are happy and the result is final. They are just making themselves look silly, bitter and petty now and doing themselves even less favours than previously. The pair of them should be sent to an old folks home for a month to work for free.

[Marymayo]

Also, 12 people did not come out of there saying the same thing. Claire King, Frenchy and Kellie did not and we know what Audley said. James/Dee gand came out saying that, Leslie was apologetic and showed some understanding and Lauren was saying Gary tried hard when things were brought up, so James is a liar.

[Raphael]

"Gary, we love you"............."He's a vile human being"

[Ruffle]

James was asked the questions he answered them
the truth is I feel that his fans don't want the truth It's ok to accept the truth and still like Gary
there is not an issue with health issues when the other hm,s cleaned it up it would only become a problem it it had been left
I totally believe what the other hm,s are saying and I believe that it was James and dee that were seeing to all his needs not that thy will be apreasiated for it thy did not sigh up to be careers but tried all the same

[calyman]

Originally Posted by Ruffle

James was asked the questions he answered them
the truth is I feel that his fans don't want the truth It's ok to accept the truth and still like Gary
there is not an issue with health issues when the other hm,s cleaned it up it would only become a problem it it had been left
I totally believe what the other hm,s are saying and I believe that it was James and dee that were seeing to all his needs not that thy will be apreasiated for it thy did not sigh up to be careers but tried all the same

I don't believe James' or Dee's or any of the gang of 6's lies.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ruffle

James was asked the questions he answered them
the truth is I feel that his fans don't want the truth It's ok to accept the truth and still like Gary
there is not an issue with health issues when the other hm,s cleaned it up it would only become a problem it it had been left
I totally believe what the other hm,s are saying and I believe that it was James and dee that were seeing to all his needs not that thy will be apreasiated for it thy did not sigh up to be careers but tried all the same

Anything those vile bastards did by way of kind or charitable acts - to any other house-mates, not just Gary - was as fake as a 90p banknote. The irrefutable proof of their vileness is threefold; their actual behaviour whilst in the house, their actual conduct during the post finale interviews, and their continued spewing of bile against Gary now, in newspapers and on line.

Please consider this; even if Gary did have some hygiene issues, even if there was an incident when he had traces of poo on his hand (and I strongly doubt it because the only testimony that he did have comes solely from his accusers with no independent corroboration) then any genuine person who recognised his problems would merely take him to one side and - away from the cameras - gently advise him. Similarly, any decent person genuinely electing to help Gary, would do so without broadcasting his problems and without heralding to the world the fact that they were helping him. Even if Gary was ungrateful or rude by return (and again, I strongly doubt it because the only testimony that he was comes solely from his accusers with no independent corroboration) then any decent genuine person would make allowances for his eccentricity, his age, and his disabilities, and preserve an old man's dignity by being discreet about his hygiene problems.

Would we have had any idea that Gary pissed on the floor? Had poo on his hands, and had other hygiene issues if it had not been broadcast to the world by these insensitive hypocrites? No, we wouldn't, because we did not ever see it. I for one, do not believe it, and I prefer to rely on my eyes, ears, and logical deduction to interpret what I have witnessed rather than the lies of vile bastards who are willing to unjustly discredit an innocent man and rob him of his dignity merely because they are trying to justify their vile bullying behaviour.

The anti-Gary lobby, and pro-James/Dee lobby can maintain what they want.

[Angelika]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Anything those vile bastards did by way of kind or charitable acts - to any other house-mates, not just Gary - was as fake as a 90p banknote. The irrefutable proof of their vileness is threefold; their actual behaviour whilst in the house, their actual conduct during the post finale interviews, and their continued spewing of bile against Gary now, in newspapers and on line.

Please consider this; even if Gary did have some hygiene issues, even if there was an incident when he had traces of poo on his hand (and I strongly doubt it because the only testimony that he did have comes solely from his accusers with no independent corroboration) then any genuine person who recognised his problems would merely take him to one side and - away from the cameras - gently advise him. Similarly, any decent person genuinely electing to help Gary, would do so without broadcasting his problems and without heralding to the world the fact that they were helping him. Even if Gary was ungrateful or rude by return (and again, I strongly doubt it because the only testimony that he was comes solely from his accusers with no independent corroboration) then any decent genuine person would make allowances for his eccentricity, his age, and his disabilities, and preserve an old man's dignity by being discreet about his hygiene problems.

Would we have had any idea that Gary pissed on the floor? Had poo on his hands, and had other hygiene issues if it had not been broadcast to the world by these insensitive hypocrites? No, we wouldn't, because we did not ever see it. I for one, do not believe it, and I prefer to rely on my eyes, ears, and logical deduction to interpret what I have witnessed rather than the lies of vile bastards who are willing to unjustly discredit an innocent man and rob him of his dignity merely because they are trying to justify their vile bullying behaviour.

The anti-Gary lobby, and pro-James/Dee lobby can maintain what they want.

Totally support every word you say, I feel the same about Gary's detractors!
Poo to them - poor losers! Ashamed that they can call themselves British!

[jasperinporto]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Anything those vile bastards did by way of kind or charitable acts - to any other house-mates, not just Gary - was as fake as a 90p banknote. The irrefutable proof of their vileness is threefold; their actual behaviour whilst in the house, their actual conduct during the post finale interviews, and their continued spewing of bile against Gary now, in newspapers and on line.

Please consider this; even if Gary did have some hygiene issues, even if there was an incident when he had traces of poo on his hand (and I strongly doubt it because the only testimony that he did have comes solely from his accusers with no independent corroboration) then any genuine person who recognised his problems would merely take him to one side and - away from the cameras - gently advise him. Similarly, any decent person genuinely electing to help Gary, would do so without broadcasting his problems and without heralding to the world the fact that they were helping him. Even if Gary was ungrateful or rude by return (and again, I strongly doubt it because the only testimony that he was comes solely from his accusers with no independent corroboration) then any decent genuine person would make allowances for his eccentricity, his age, and his disabilities, and preserve an old man's dignity by being discreet about his hygiene problems.

Would we have had any idea that Gary pissed on the floor? Had poo on his hands, and had other hygiene issues if it had not been broadcast to the world by these insensitive hypocrites? No, we wouldn't, because we did not ever see it. I for one, do not believe it, and I prefer to rely on my eyes, ears, and logical deduction to interpret what I have witnessed rather than the lies of vile bastards who are willing to unjustly discredit an innocent man and rob him of his dignity merely because they are trying to justify their vile bullying behaviour.

The anti-Gary lobby, and pro-James/Dee lobby can maintain what they want.

I absolutely agree with what your saying. And it makes me angry the way they purposely wanted to humiliate Gary by telling the public. But it didn't put his fans off he was still way above everyone else. I think it will take more than wiping **** off the seat to bring this great man down.

They all deserve to be flushed away down the toilet like the piece of **** they all are. Except the lovely Audley of course.

[delta]

Originally Posted by jasperinporto

I absolutely agree with what your saying. And it makes me angry the way they purposely wanted to humiliate Gary by telling the public. But it didn't put his fans off he was still way above everyone else. I think it will take more than wiping **** off the seat to bring this great man down.

They all deserve to be flushed away down the toilet like the piece of **** they all are. Except the lovely Audley of course.

What happened in that house should have stayed in that house.

No moaning they should have bent over backwards to help him.

I still think he would have won but it would have show them all in a better light.

What it did demonstrate was two things. How far we have drifted in the care and reverence of an older generation and what a sad bunch of self absorbed individuals they were.

Make no wonder half of them didn't attend the Wrap party- they have realised how badly they have damaged their 'stock' in the eyes of the British public. Damage limitation way too late.

[Mick]

Originally Posted by delta

What it did demonstrate was two things. How far we have drifted in the care and reverence of an older generation and what a sad bunch of self absorbed individuals they were.

Make no wonder half of them didn't attend the Wrap party- they have realised how badly they have damaged their 'stock' in the eyes of the British public. Damage limitation way too late.

The above is well said very few of them can feel proud of their interactions with Gary and I hope we the public do not let them forget it.

I have been re playing some episodes and the behaviours of James particularly leave me feeling angry and sad.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Ruffle

James was asked the questions he answered them
the truth is I feel that his fans don't want the truth It's ok to accept the truth and still like Gary
there is not an issue with health issues when the other hm,s cleaned it up it would only become a problem it it had been left
I totally believe what the other hm,s are saying and I believe that it was James and dee that were seeing to all his needs not that thy will be apreasiated for it thy did not sigh up to be careers but tried all the same

We accept that things can happen because we are human ourselves but Dee never helped Gary one bit, James only bothered after he was asked by BB but he tried to bring Gary down to a level of dog poo. He then proceeded to go out and stir the pot. They are both undesirable bad losers, I doubt whether anyone is denying that accidents happened but as Audey said Gary was asked and Gary repaired and became better. I believe Audley 100%, I also believe that Dee took the younger element under her wings and stirred for Gary as said by Audley.

There was an incident whereby Gary was criticised because he picked at the chicken, did we all see Edelle and Audley picking away for all their worth, they were enjoying it. Audley spooned the insides out spoon after spoon and then he was going to make chicken soup. I love Audley but my point is, why was Gary criticised.

Still the terrible lot continue.......the game is over you lot and you all lost!

The only one who helped Gary was Audley and as Gary said he is the only one he will keep in touch with. I am so glad that he has now seen through the rest of them.

[Mick]

RE The above post completely agree.Just look at James face when Gary lowered his trousers in the kitchen that says it all.No compassion just glorying in another's misfortune.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Mick

RE The above post completely agree.Just look at James face when Gary lowered his trousers in the kitchen that says it all.No compassion just glorying in another's misfortune.

Our glory was watching the final three left in the house with James on one chair and Gary and Audley on the other.... The sick look on James's face was classic...he knew he was going to lose to the pair of them and the humiliation was inevitable.
What's more he had no one to turn to...only them.

[Mick]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Our glory was watching the final three left in the house with James on one chair and Gary and Audley on the other.... The sick look on James's face was classic...he knew he was going to lose to the pair of them and the humiliation was inevitable.
What's more he had no one to turn to...only them.

Indeed I was surprised that he did not complain to Emma that he was bullied.(again)