[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I think livia is just saying that everyone should be aware of dangerous circumstances. I think both men and women need to be more conscious of their actions, not just women. The same way we all lock our doors at night, but that doesn't mean that anyone deserves to get robbed if they forget one night.

A thief is still a thief even if you don't lock the doors, and a rapist is still a rapist even if you had a few drinks.

I agree with this

[Bluerang1]

Same.

[Creggle]

Just want to throw it out there that Tyson didn't rape that hoe, as pointed out earlier in the thread. The fact he served jail time, had to pay her money and the fact it ruined him mentally in his boxing career makes her just as disgusting as a rapist. He's still banned from entering the UK... Lol...

This is also why rape is such an eggshell subject tbh. Whilst it's terrible when it actually happens, there are so many sick, disgusting people out there (both men and women) who enjoy lying about it, whether it's dreaming up a fake past situation and convincing people it happened for the attention, or falsely accusing someone of raping them for Ł, or the lols. They are as bad as rapists.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Creggle

Just want to throw it out there that Tyson didn't rape that hoe, as pointed out earlier in the thread. The fact he served jail time, had to pay her money and the fact it ruined him mentally in his boxing career makes her just as disgusting as a rapist. He's still banned from entering the UK... Lol...

This is also why rape is such an eggshell subject tbh. Whilst it's terrible when it actually happens, there are so many sick, disgusting people out there (both men and women) who enjoy lying about it, whether it's dreaming up a fake past situation and convincing people it happened for the attention, or falsely accusing someone of raping them for Ł, or the lols. They are as bad as rapists.

How can you say that with absolute certainty about Mike Tyson? He was convicted of it, they must have had good reason for finding him guilty. Is it because you like Mike Tyson?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How can you say that with absolute certainty about Mike Tyson? He was convicted of it, they must have had good reason for finding him guilty. Is it because you like Mike Tyson?

He's being sarcastic. No one could be that dumb. (i hope)

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How can you say that with absolute certainty about Mike Tyson? He was convicted of it, they must have had good reason for finding him guilty. Is it because you like Mike Tyson?

She has a history of false rape accusations and just so happened to get a ton of money off of it. She ruined his life and his reputation for a payout. Me liking him doesn't effect my opinion on it, people are wrongly convicted all the time, i'd say it's more likely she wanted an easy payout than Tyson risking raping someone. Why on earth would you go to somebodies hotel room at 3am in the morning? Look at his stamp collection? LOL.

I bet half way through she was thinking to herself, 'Gotcha.'

If you put all the facts together there's alot more point at her guilt than his, but because rape is such an awful crime it's almost as if the accusation of something so serious just overrides any sort of logic. Just incase he 'did'.

Originally Posted by lostalex

He's being sarcastic. No one could be that dumb. (i hope)

I'm sure you have some lovely strong points as to why my opinions are dumb. Of course, it's not that you're naive or anything...

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Creggle

I'm sure you have some lovely strong points as to why my opinions are dumb. Of course, it's not that you're naive or anything...

Besides that fact that it's well documented with plenty of forensic evidence and it has been confirmed by many of his other exes that he is a violent abusive rapist, oh yea, and the fact that he BIT A MAN'S EAR OFF ON LIVE TELEVISION.

but like i said, i know you are being sarcastic.

now tell me what you think about O.J.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Creggle

She has a history of false rape accusations and just so happened to get a ton of money off of it. She ruined his life and his reputation for a payout. Me liking him doesn't effect my opinion on it, people are wrongly convicted all the time, i'd say it's more likely she wanted an easy payout than Tyson risking raping someone. Why on earth would you go to somebodies hotel room at 3am in the morning? Look at his stamp collection? LOL.

I bet half way through she was thinking to herself, 'Gotcha.'

If you put all the facts together there's alot more point at her guilt than his, but because rape is such an awful crime it's almost as if the accusation of something so serious just overrides any sort of logic. Just incase he 'did'.

His defense claimed that she had accused one person of rape before and her lawyer denied that was true. There wasn't a history of false accusations at all

Also agreeing to go to someones room doesn't mean you can't change your mind and it isn't evidence that you agreed to have sex. To add to that Mike Tyson does have a history of violence towards women which he's actually admitted to himself

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

His defense claimed that she had accused one person of rape before and her lawyer denied that was true. There wasn't a history of false accusations at all

Also agreeing to go to someones room doesn't mean you can't change your mind and it isn't evidence that you agreed to have sex. To add to that Mike Tyson does have a history of violence towards women which he's actually admitted to himself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlRawW--T24

Well, you can happily have sex with somebody and then say they raped you after and that's all the evidence you'd need. Just because he has a history of violence doesn't mean he is a rapist. Women like her are the predators. She sat through the entire trial and everything that came before and after (lots of TV show deals surprise surprise) with a creepy sadistic grin on her face, she never once gave any signs she's been through something as traumatic as rape. Even on the phone to 911 she was like 'errr, yeah i've kinda been like raped' 'do you know the person?' 'well he's like, kinda famous ' Also, Tyson's jaw dropping honesty about pretty much everything he talks about gives the impression he'd happilly admit to doing it if he did at this point, yet to this day he says that he's outraged at the fact he'll go down in history as a rapist because of her, and rightly so.

It would seem like people don't wish to ever look at a man's innocence when it comes to rape, as they fear it could come across as condoning it. (general statement btw)

[lostalex]

this car is cute (i had this toy as a kid)

Youtube video

[Z]

Do you think she was... forced... to apologise... against her will...?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Z

Do you think she was... forced... to apologise... against her will...?

Loose Women is more important
that dear old Judy

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Z

Do you think she was... forced... to apologise... against her will...?

[smudgie]

Quite silly having to aplogise, it was her personal opinion, on a show that is all about opinions and chat.

The question she answered to was if he should be allowed back into the football limelight. Very difficult, once someone has served their time, should they then be punished again by losing their livelihood and lifestyle.
The price of fame perhaps.

As to the rape issue, I do think it is such a muddy subject at times, I really think we should have degrees of rape..and the punishment to fit the degree.

[arista]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Quite silly having to aplogise, it was her personal opinion, on a show that is all about opinions and chat.

The question she answered to was if he should be allowed back into the football limelight. Very difficult, once someone has served their time, should they then be punished again by losing their livelihood and lifestyle.
The price of fame perhaps.

As to the rape issue, I do think it is such a muddy subject at times, I really think we should have degrees of rape..and the punishment to fit the degree.

ITV were not going to
and due to all the Front Pages with her
the Loose Women legal team would advise her to

[Livia]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Quite silly having to aplogise, it was her personal opinion, on a show that is all about opinions and chat.

The question she answered to was if he should be allowed back into the football limelight. Very difficult, once someone has served their time, should they then be punished again by losing their livelihood and lifestyle.
The price of fame perhaps.

As to the rape issue, I do think it is such a muddy subject at times, I really think we should have degrees of rape..and the punishment to fit the degree.

I'm with you all the way on this one Smudgie.

[arista]

Richard Madeley calls police over trolls' threats to rape daughter Chloe after wife Judy's comments about rapist footballer

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3GDGmri5c


Feck Me - Calling the Police

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by arista

Richard Madeley calls police over trolls' threats to rape daughter Chloe after wife Judy's comments about rapist footballer

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3GDGmri5c


Feck Me - Calling the Police

ffs all this internet troll stuff is way out of control, who'd have thought there were was so many "brave" people sitting behind their computer screens

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

ffs all this internet troll stuff is way out of control, who'd have thought there were was so many "brave" people sitting behind their computer screens

LOL... I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY! But I won't.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Livia

LOL... I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY! But I won't.

oh dear

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

oh dear

Yeah, I know what you mods are like. I don't want to be locked in that cupboard again.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

ffs all this internet troll stuff is way out of control, who'd have thought there were was so many "brave" people sitting behind their computer screens

yes but no one is going to Rape their Daughter



It appears this is just to get their failed daughter in the Press

[arista]

Now BBC1 News just showed a clip of Judy
on ITV1HD Loose Women.

And spoke of the tweet rape threat
to her daughter


And they are on many front pages

[Livia]

So... people upset by Judy's comments about a rapist, as it's such a terrible and sensistive subject, feel perfectly justified in threatening rape against her daughter who said nothing at all about the case. And I didn't think I could hold Twitter in any more contempt than I already do.

People moan about attempts to police the Internet. It's people who abuse their right to comment who will end up being the reason for all of us being policed online.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Livia

So... people upset by Judy's comments about a rapist, as it's such a terrible and sensistive subject, feel perfectly justified in threatening rape against her daughter who said nothing at all about the case. And I didn't think I could hold Twitter in any more contempt than I already do.

People moan about attempts to police the Internet. It's people who abuse their right to comment who will end up being the reason for all of us being policed online.

I know right. People are idiots