[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

They will never stop , they will use all methods to Islamify the West and then eventually the World. They will use soft power like exploiting our own shameful abdication of our own Christian faith, our preponderance to bend over backwards to accommodate other faiths/cultures at the expense of our own.

They will use hard power, terrorism.... They will shoot,bomb and behead their way through all of us men,women and children that refuse to revert back to the one true Islamic faith.

They will pick us off one by one and the saddest thing of all is that the more monstrous their terrorist act the more the west will try and plead with them to stop and give them more civil powers and profess brotherhood and kinship.

Utter madness.... I just hope people now will wake up and start to take this threat seriously.

Appeasement never works it just lets the terrorist become more powerful.

I think that we have both written at length so many times stressing the above sentiments Nedusa, but I still feel it is largely a message falling upon deaf ears.

[arista]

the wounded Policeman is shot more to his death

[arista]

Today the Terrorists are winning

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

Today the Terrorists are winning

Because we are empowering them to do so by our impotency, our weakness, and our totally insane P.C. driven archaic sense of 'fair play' and decency.

We need leaders with testicles, who will sanction our troops, our security services, our police, to do whatever is necessary to eradicate these mental, murdering demons. We need leaders who will put our interests first, our freedoms first, and our safety first, and if the actions necessary to achieve this is seen by some to be racist, xenophobic or against 'civil liberties' then feck them, let them think what they want.

[Cherie]

Terror levels mean nothing, these people would be happy to walk into a care home and shoot people, no point bringing down an airliner that has been done already, they will do anything to shock, terrorise and try and ultimately overpower

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Because we are empowering them to do so by our impotency, our weakness, and our totally insane P.C. driven archaic sense of 'fair play' and decency.

We need leaders with testicles, who will sanction our troops, our security services, our police, to do whatever is necessary to eradicate these mental, murdering demons. We need leaders who will put our interests first, our freedoms first, and our safety first, and if the actions necessary to achieve this is seen by some to be racist, xenophobic or against 'civil liberties' then feck them, let them think what they want.

[bots]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Because we are empowering them to do so by our impotency, our weakness, and our totally insane P.C. driven archaic sense of 'fair play' and decency.

We need leaders with testicles, who will sanction our troops, our security services, our police, to do whatever is necessary to eradicate these mental, murdering demons. We need leaders who will put our interests first, our freedoms first, and our safety first, and if the actions necessary to achieve this is seen by some to be racist, xenophobic or against 'civil liberties' then feck them, let them think what they want.

There is no short fix to this. To fight them on an equal footing, we would need to waive away our rights to freedom and free speech and become as bad as them. It is for these reasons that I agree with the west's response to their atrocities. This is going to take several generations to resolve so we need to get used to it I'm sorry to say.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

There is no short fix to this. To fight them on an equal footing, we would need to waive away our rights to freedom and free speech and become as bad as them. It is for these reasons that I agree with the west's response to their atrocities. This is going to take several generations to resolve so we need to get used to it I'm sorry to say.

I don't see how we would need to waive any of our rights to freedom and free speech Bitonthe side? We are already waiving away those rights daily by allowing these bastards to intimidate us and stop Nativity plays in our Christian schools, stop the wearing of crucifixes around the necks of our nurses, and a host of other 'forced' changes to our Western democratic way of life, and we are already allowing them to intimidate us and curb our rights to free speech because we dare not speak any truths if it is a truth about Muslims, immigrants or foreigners in general.

It is time to stop ALL immigration but especially of Muslims - be they Black, Brown, Asian or Eastern Europeans, and feck the EU - what are they going to do, slap us?

Time is NOT on our side and we have NOT got several generations. By that time we will all definitely be under Sharia law or dead.

Lebanon was a Westernised Christian democracy, and it became Islamified in less than half a generation.

When germs enter our bodies through our skin, the body's defence mechanicism kicks into action; the wound is sealed off to stop further infestation, and the little white soldiers which are our antibodies swoop on the invaders and kick the feck out of them to protect our bodies.

We should learn from nature - seal off our borders and stop letting the bastards in, thereby making it easier for our Security Services to deal with the millions already here.

We should also learn from current affairs because the atrocities in Holland, Australia and Paris weren't committed by an invading army, but by fecking IMMIGRANTS which those countries had welcomed and embraced and and allowed to live there. FFS even Jihadi John hails from the UK.

It's time now for the UK people to take to the streets, shout from the rooftops and go on strike if need be to FORCE our weak leaders to CLOSE our borders and stand up to the bastards who are already here. It's time to Stop appeasing them and start INVESTIGATING them. Sniff out the 5th columnists and sympathisers and BOOT the ***** out. Feck Brussels.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I don't see how we would need to waive any of our rights to freedom and free speech Bitonthe side? We are already waiving away those rights daily by allowing these bastards to intimidate us and stop Nativity plays in our Christian schools, stop the wearing of crucifixes around the necks of our nurses, and a host of other 'forced' changes to our Western democratic way of life, and we are already allowing them to intimidate us and curb our rights to free speech because we dare not speak any truths if it is a truth about Muslims, immigrants or foreigners in general.

It is time to stop ALL immigration but especially of Muslims - be they Black, Brown, Asian or Eastern Europeans, and feck the EU - what are they going to do, slap us?

Time is NOT on our side and we have NOT got several generations. By that time we will all definitely be under Sharia law or dead.

Lebanon was a Westernised Christian democracy, and it became Islamified in less than half a generation.

When germs enter our bodies through our skin, the body's defence mechanicism kicks into action; the wound is sealed off to stop further infestation, and the little white soldiers which are our antibodies swoop on the invaders and kick the feck out of them to protect our bodies.

We should learn from nature - seal off our borders and stop letting the bastards in, thereby making it easier for our Security Services to deal with the millions already here.

We should also learn from current affairs because the atrocities in Holland, Australia and Paris weren't committed by an invading army, but by fecking IMMIGRANTS which those countries had welcomed and embraced and and allowed to live there. FFS even Jihadi John hails from the UK.

It's time now for the UK people to take to the streets, shout from the rooftops and go on strike if need be to FORCE our weak leaders to CLOSE our borders and stand up to the bastards who are already here. It's time to Stop appeasing them and start INVESTIGATING them. Sniff out the 5th columnists and sympathisers and BOOT the ***** out. Feck Brussels.

Sorry but this post makes me very uncomfortable. I am a white Briton of Christian descent but I see neither Islam nor immigrants as my enemy. And I'll pass on your street marches thanks.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I don't see how we would need to waive any of our rights to freedom and free speech Bitonthe side? We are already waiving away those rights daily by allowing these bastards to intimidate us and stop Nativity plays in our Christian schools, stop the wearing of crucifixes around the necks of our nurses, and a host of other 'forced' changes to our Western democratic way of life, and we are already allowing them to intimidate us and curb our rights to free speech because we dare not speak any truths if it is a truth about Muslims, immigrants or foreigners in general.

It is time to stop ALL immigration but especially of Muslims - be they Black, Brown, Asian or Eastern Europeans, and feck the EU - what are they going to do, slap us?

Time is NOT on our side and we have NOT got several generations. By that time we will all definitely be under Sharia law or dead.

Lebanon was a Westernised Christian democracy, and it became Islamified in less than half a generation.

When germs enter our bodies through our skin, the body's defence mechanicism kicks into action; the wound is sealed off to stop further infestation, and the little white soldiers which are our antibodies swoop on the invaders and kick the feck out of them to protect our bodies.

We should learn from nature - seal off our borders and stop letting the bastards in, thereby making it easier for our Security Services to deal with the millions already here.

We should also learn from current affairs because the atrocities in Holland, Australia and Paris weren't committed by an invading army, but by fecking IMMIGRANTS which those countries had welcomed and embraced and and allowed to live there. FFS even Jihadi John hails from the UK.

It's time now for the UK people to take to the streets, shout from the rooftops and go on strike if need be to FORCE our weak leaders to CLOSE our borders and stand up to the bastards who are already here. It's time to Stop appeasing them and start INVESTIGATING them. Sniff out the 5th columnists and sympathisers and BOOT the ***** out. Feck Brussels.

Possibly the most small minded and bigoted crap post i have ever read on here and that takes some doing. I have many friends of all religions and origins and some of them shock and horror are also people that have immigrated here and have just as much right to be here as you do.
Twice in my life i have had had to be evacuated due to bombs placed by Christian extremist groups and once been within earshot of a huge bomb detonated by Christians should i hate them? should i tar them all with the same brush?
No because that would be idiotic.
Get a sense of perspective ffs and stop reading too much right wing propaganda it's rotting your brain.
The amount of religious intolerance you display is so hypocritical coming from someone that claims to be a Christian and yet takes a piss fit whenever anyone sniggers at people that believe in a god.
Your post is offensive and discriminatory to almost a quarter of the people on the planet and is uneducated reactionary bollocks based on the actions of 3 lunatics.

[bots]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I don't see how we would need to waive any of our rights to freedom and free speech Bitonthe side? We are already waiving away those rights daily by allowing these bastards to intimidate us and stop Nativity plays in our Christian schools, stop the wearing of crucifixes around the necks of our nurses, and a host of other 'forced' changes to our Western democratic way of life, and we are already allowing them to intimidate us and curb our rights to free speech because we dare not speak any truths if it is a truth about Muslims, immigrants or foreigners in general.

It is time to stop ALL immigration but especially of Muslims - be they Black, Brown, Asian or Eastern Europeans, and feck the EU - what are they going to do, slap us?

Time is NOT on our side and we have NOT got several generations. By that time we will all definitely be under Sharia law or dead.

Lebanon was a Westernised Christian democracy, and it became Islamified in less than half a generation.

When germs enter our bodies through our skin, the body's defence mechanicism kicks into action; the wound is sealed off to stop further infestation, and the little white soldiers which are our antibodies swoop on the invaders and kick the feck out of them to protect our bodies.

We should learn from nature - seal off our borders and stop letting the bastards in, thereby making it easier for our Security Services to deal with the millions already here.

We should also learn from current affairs because the atrocities in Holland, Australia and Paris weren't committed by an invading army, but by fecking IMMIGRANTS which those countries had welcomed and embraced and and allowed to live there. FFS even Jihadi John hails from the UK.

It's time now for the UK people to take to the streets, shout from the rooftops and go on strike if need be to FORCE our weak leaders to CLOSE our borders and stand up to the bastards who are already here. It's time to Stop appeasing them and start INVESTIGATING them. Sniff out the 5th columnists and sympathisers and BOOT the ***** out. Feck Brussels.

With respect Kirk, your response is exactly what these terrorists want. They want to disrupt western life, feed hatred, make us react violently and harshly toward them because that ultimately feeds their cause and recruits them further support. This will take generations to resolve, because you cannot remove hatred in a generation, and by reacting to their actions negatively all we are doing is further feeding hatred on all sides. In this respect, the turn the other cheek philosophy is actually the best response because we can then maintain the society that we in the west have worked so hard to create.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I don't see how we would need to waive any of our rights to freedom and free speech Bitonthe side? We are already waiving away those rights daily by allowing these bastards to intimidate us and stop Nativity plays in our Christian schools, stop the wearing of crucifixes around the necks of our nurses, and a host of other 'forced' changes to our Western democratic way of life, and we are already allowing them to intimidate us and curb our rights to free speech because we dare not speak any truths if it is a truth about Muslims, immigrants or foreigners in general.

It is time to stop ALL immigration but especially of Muslims - be they Black, Brown, Asian or Eastern Europeans, and feck the EU - what are they going to do, slap us?

Time is NOT on our side and we have NOT got several generations. By that time we will all definitely be under Sharia law or dead.

Lebanon was a Westernised Christian democracy, and it became Islamified in less than half a generation.

When germs enter our bodies through our skin, the body's defence mechanicism kicks into action; the wound is sealed off to stop further infestation, and the little white soldiers which are our antibodies swoop on the invaders and kick the feck out of them to protect our bodies.

We should learn from nature - seal off our borders and stop letting the bastards in, thereby making it easier for our Security Services to deal with the millions already here.

We should also learn from current affairs because the atrocities in Holland, Australia and Paris weren't committed by an invading army, but by fecking IMMIGRANTS which those countries had welcomed and embraced and and allowed to live there. FFS even Jihadi John hails from the UK.

It's time now for the UK people to take to the streets, shout from the rooftops and go on strike if need be to FORCE our weak leaders to CLOSE our borders and stand up to the bastards who are already here. It's time to Stop appeasing them and start INVESTIGATING them. Sniff out the 5th columnists and sympathisers and BOOT the ***** out. Feck Brussels.

Our lilly livered politicians are not ready for that.But in the end it will come to that,More than likely when it is too late and there is all out war on the streets.People will eventually wake up to the slow,step by step Islamification of our society but by then things will be dire.In years to come when the native population of our tiny Island becomes a minority and we are fighting for our freedom and being attacked,bombed and shot regularly.People will look back at the last two decades and say 'Wtf were they thinking'.I think France will eventually take the lead on taking a hard line approach to combatting terrorism and uncontrolled immigration and we and other European nations will follow in their footsteps.At the moment nobody has the balls to take the first stance but i feel France is on its way.

[arista]

[Northern Monkey]

If anyone needs torturing,These fucckers do.They need to be captured,Tortured and imprisoned with some neo-Nazi skin heads for life.Or if caught in the act,Shot on sight.No protection,No Halal meals in prison and a clear message sent that the same will happen to any terrorist who commits any act of terrorism on western soil.Non of this "lets talk" nonsense.We can't just lay there while they f'ck us up the a'rse dry.We need to fight back until these c'nts realise that they can't win.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

If anyone needs torturing,These fucckers do.They need to be captured,Tortured and imprisoned with some neo-Nazi skin heads for life.Or if caught in the act,Shot on sight.No protection,No Halal meals in prison and a clear message sent that the same will happen to any terrorist who commits any act of terrorism on western soil.Non of this "lets talk" nonsense.We can't just lay there while they f'ck us up the a'rse dry.We need to fight back until these c'nts realise that they can't win.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They were shouting "snackbar" as they shot them

[arista]

The only person not calling it Islamic
is the Lame Duck USA President


Its a Fact that those 3,
that got away with it,
are Islamic Terrorists

[Northern Monkey]

The Christians did this a thousand years ago.The problem is that (radical)Islam has'nt moved on.They are a thousand years behind other religions.As Nedusa said,They believe it is their turn to wage a crusade on the west.(radical) Islam is primitive.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Seventy-eight percent support punishment for the people who earlier this year published cartoons featuring the Prophet Mohammed. Sixty-eight percent support the arrest and prosecution of those British people who "insult Islam." When asked if free speech should be protected, even if it offends religious groups, 62 percent of British Muslims say No, it should not.



Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d8d_1...grMvLqIXd4k.99

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Seventy-eight percent support punishment for the people who earlier this year published cartoons featuring the Prophet Mohammed. Sixty-eight percent support the arrest and prosecution of those British people who "insult Islam." When asked if free speech should be protected, even if it offends religious groups, 62 percent of British Muslims say No, it should not.



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Well,Maybe those Muslims should move to one of those lovely Islamic countries where free speech is forbiden and they won't get offended.

[JoshBB]

****ing idiots. What amazes me is how people manage to get through borders with weapons.. you would think it would be checked. How awful.

[Nedusa]

We have created a terrible mess now with our meddling in Middle East countries, by sticking our noses in trying to bring democracy we have achieved only in creating more hatred against us and added to that we have sold/supplied/given unlimited number of arms to various terrorist groups who now turn these weapons back on us.

Using fear and terror tactics these groups now have recruited every disgruntled religious numpty to carry on the fight in the West.

Yet no one from the Muslim community gives a sh it , they put out standard communiques barely condemning these atrocities, sometimes even trying to justify these murderous acts.

Yet the west still makes excuses for these communities saying they stand shoulder to shoulder with them in the fight.

But these Muslim communities do nothing in real terms to try and de-radicalise Islam through education and teaching in Mosques, usually quite the reverse happens.

Non Muslim countries need to demand much more cooperation from Muslim communities who live in secular Christian democracies, full cultural integration and real efforts to root out Islamic extremism. Not just lip service after the latest atrocity.






.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

We have created a terrible mess now with our meddling in Middle East countries, by sticking our noses in trying to bring democracy we have achieved only in creating more hatred against us and added to that we have sold/supplied/given unlimited number of arms to various terrorist groups who now turn these weapons back on us.

Using fear and terror tactics these groups now have recruited every disgruntled religious numpty to carry on the fight in the West.

Yet no one from the Muslim community gives a sh it , they put out standard communiques barely condemning these atrocities, sometimes even trying to justify these murderous acts.

Yet the west still makes excuses for these communities saying they stand shoulder to shoulder with them in the fight.

But these Muslim communities do nothing in real terms to try and de-radicalise Islam through education and teaching in Mosques, usually quite the reverse happens.

Non Muslim countries need to demand much more cooperation from Muslim communities who live in secular Christian democracies, full cultural integration and real efforts to root out Islamic extremism. Not just lip service after the latest atrocity.
.

Completely agree, but what you outline is no short term strategy, we need to accept that this is going to be a long drawn out process to resolve.

[Sticks]

Many Muslims hold their sacred holy prophet in high regard, it is also part of Islam to serve in holy Jihad

These so called cartoonists by insulting him sowed a whirlwind, which was reaped today, in short they brought it on themselves. Something like this happened once in Denmark, they should have learned from that. This is what can happen when you disrespect people's sacred beliefs.

Time for the media to show respect and restraint, as for the old chestnut about Freedom of speech, it has limits, to quote "Freedom of speech does not allow one to falsely yell fire in a crowded theatre"

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Many Muslims hold their sacred holy prophet in high regard, it is also part of Islam to serve in holy Jihad

These so called cartoonists by insulting him sowed a whirlwind, which was reaped today, in short they brought it on themselves. Something like this happened once in Denmark, they should have learned from that. This is what can happen when you disrespect people's sacred beliefs.

Time for the media to show respect and restraint, as for the old chestnut about Freedom of speech, it has limits, to quote "Freedom of speech does not allow one to falsely yell fire in a crowded theatre"

So they hold some fictitious bloke in high regard and we should watch out or they will shoot us if we dont?

unbelievable

What about the universal sacred belief not to kill people who dont agree with you?