[Vanessa]

it doesn't sound very reassuring.

[DemolitionRed]

Of course we have to be warned but we need to understand that threats like this are usually designed to cause massive disruption as well as public fear. The government has to take such threats seriously; it has to provide more security and be on red alert but just like the long IRA campaign, we the public have to try and carry on as normal, whilst of course being vigilant.

Arista has made some good points regarding our general public safety and the risks we take on a daily basis. We can't wrap ourselves in cotton wool because the likelihood is, if these people do strike, they will do so in the one place we all believe to be safe. The malls and shops they are suggesting are probably the safest places to shop right now. I would be more wary of things like the Euro tunnel because I regularly travel via car train and I've never been stopped and checked, even with a dog on board.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Of course we have to be warned but we need to understand that threats like this are usually designed to cause massive disruption as well as public fear. The government has to take such threats seriously; it has to provide more security and be on red alert but just like the long IRA campaign, we the public have to try and carry on as normal, whilst of course being vigilant.

Arista has made some good points regarding our general public safety and the risks we take on a daily basis. We can't wrap ourselves in cotton wool because the likelihood is, if these people do strike, they will do so in the one place we all believe to be safe. The malls and shops they are suggesting are probably the safest places to shop right now. I would be more wary of things like the Euro tunnel because I regularly travel via car train and I've never been stopped and checked, even with a dog on board.

Exactly. We had a discussion on here last year about the major cities being targets, and how much effective it would be to target the tunnel, docks, power stations etc. A terrorist threat would never stop me or hundreds of thousands of other people getting on the Tube.

[Vanessa]

They even threatened to go to Rome.

[arista]

Yes they are Asking any supporters of their Muslim Extreme Clan in the whole world
to get weapons and murder the white infidels

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

It's like looking at a horrific slow moving motorway pile up, you can see what's about to happen but have no way of stopping it.

It has been said many times on here and other forums, social media sites, news sites, blogs and even mainstream media sites that this terror we see on our TV screens or internet screens is slowly moving westwards, and it's only a matter of time before it arrives and vast numbers of innocent members of the public are brutally murdered on our streets or in our malls whilst going about their daily business.

We have seen attacks in Africa,Australia all across the middle east and more recently in Paris... and yes it is coming to our shores make no mistake.

The chatter currently being experienced by our security services must be deafening at present with various terrorist organisations trying to groom home grown or lone wolf cells to take up arms and commit atrocities in our towns and cities.

I really worry now that what has been predicted will come to pass and then we will see the mood change on Forums all across the land, the bleedin heart sympathisers may finally start to wake and realise that this terror has been predicted many many times and now has arrived, and a price is now being paid in the blood of innocent people because as a nation we sleepwalked right into this nightmare.

I hope I am wrong I really do but each day another story of imminent terror of home grown terror plots and now terrorist threats coming from domestic social media sites, make me increasingly fearful that tragedy is not far away.

Saying I told you so when large numbers of families are grieving may be cold hearted and slightly callous BUT I fear that is where this is leading.

Perhaps it will take an atrocity on our streets to finally wake everyone up to this sleeping threat, but why should large numbers of innocent people have to die because we are too indifferent or too stupid to see this gravest of threats right before our very eyes.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

It's like looking at a horrific slow moving motorway pile up, you can see what's about to happen but have no way of stopping it.

It has been said many times on here and other forums, social media sites, news sites, blogs and even mainstream media sites that this terror we see on our TV screens or internet screens is slowly moving westwards, and it's only a matter of time before it arrives and vast numbers of innocent members of the public are brutally murdered on our streets or in our malls whilst going about their daily business.

We have seen attacks in Africa,Australia all across the middle east and more recently in Paris... and yes it is coming to our shores make no mistake.

The chatter currently being experienced by our security services must be deafening at present with various terrorist organisations trying to groom home grown or lone wolf cells to take up arms and commit atrocities in our towns and cities.

I really worry now that what has been predicted will come to pass and then we will see the mood change on Forums all across the land, the bleedin heart sympathisers may finally start to wake and realise that this terror has been predicted many many times and now has arrived, and a price is now being paid in the blood of innocent people because as a nation we sleepwalked right into this nightmare.

I hope I am wrong I really do but each day another story of imminent terror of home grown terror plots and now terrorist threats coming from domestic social media sites, make me increasingly fearful that tragedy is not far away.

Saying I told you so when large numbers of families are grieving may be cold hearted and slightly callous BUT I fear that is where this is leading.

Perhaps it will take an atrocity on our streets to finally wake everyone up to this sleeping threat, but why should large numbers of innocent people have to die because we are too indifferent or too stupid to see this gravest of threats right before our very eyes.

Sympathisers of what, who anywhere has ever excused any form of terrorism?
How has the nation sleepwalked, what was the alternative; panic...demonstrate...riot?

[arista]

I was at Oxford Circus a hour ago
The massive BBC Head W1 Central place has extra security with metal detectors
in the their hands.

On Oxford Street
there was Police in 2's
They had a alot of gear on
could not see guns though.


So Vanessa its safer today.

[arista]

The Extra security is at the start of the long walk way
so not in that photo

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by arista

I was at Oxford Circus a hour ago
The massive BBC Head W1 Central place has extra security with metal detectors
in the their hands.

On Oxford Street
there was Police in 2's
They had a alot of gear on
could not see guns though.


So Vanessa its safer today.

That's good to know.

[bots]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Of course we have to be warned but we need to understand that threats like this are usually designed to cause massive disruption as well as public fear. The government has to take such threats seriously; it has to provide more security and be on red alert but just like the long IRA campaign, we the public have to try and carry on as normal, whilst of course being vigilant.

Arista has made some good points regarding our general public safety and the risks we take on a daily basis. We can't wrap ourselves in cotton wool because the likelihood is, if these people do strike, they will do so in the one place we all believe to be safe. The malls and shops they are suggesting are probably the safest places to shop right now. I would be more wary of things like the Euro tunnel because I regularly travel via car train and I've never been stopped and checked, even with a dog on board.

I've seen plenty checks done on the euro tunnel, they regularly pass a scanner over the steering wheel

[kirklancaster]

[QUOTE=Kizzy;7609617]Sympathisers of what, who anywhere has ever excused any form of terrorism?
How has the nation sleepwalked, what was the alternative; panic...demonstrate...riot? /QUOTE]

Try looking up the definitions of; Denial, Apathy, Lethargy, Complacency.

Blanket Denial

There are undeniable links between unfettered immigration and Islamic Fundamentalist terrorism.

Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorist murders and atrocities are being committed in every democratic country of the world with sickening regularity.

These terrorists do not arrive in those countries by gunboat or parachute - they are domiciled there, having been welcomed by those countries as IMMIGRANTS.

From the tragic Lee Rigby and Jihadi John here, to the atrocities in Paris, Australia, Amsterdam, and elsewhere, the perpetrators were IMMIGRANTS.

The ISLAMIC HATE PREACHERS spewing bile and inciting the faithful to rise up and kill kaffirs and infidels in the West, have done so, and do so, from mosques and Islamic 'Learning' Centres in the WEST - whilst domiciled in the West as IMMIGRANTS.

This has been OUTLINED repeatedly on here as well as elsewhere, but instead of heeding such warnings and resolving to join those of us who wish to see an end to 'Open Door' immigration policies because of this terrorism (among other economic based reasons) instead, there is 'BLANKET DENIAL' that such a link between immigration and terrorism even exists, and we are offensively labelled 'racist', 'xenophobic', or Anti-Muslim.

So,Nedusa is 1,000% correct in what she says.

Whether it is 'SLEEPWALKING' because of APATHY or LETHARGY or COMPLACENCY, or whether it is SLEEPWALKING because we CLOSE OUR EYES TO THE TRUTH DELIBERATELY THROUGH BLANKET DENIAL, this country is still nonetheless SLEEPWALKING.

[armand.kay]

Visiting talkback thames HQ just off Oxford street today. Wish me luck

[armand.kay]

Here for swat team following me around to take out any extremist scúm around.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Here for swat team following me around to take out any extremist scúm around.

Good luck and I agree with your sentiments Armand.

[Nedusa]

[QUOTE=kirklancaster;7610896]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Sympathisers of what, who anywhere has ever excused any form of terrorism?
How has the nation sleepwalked, what was the alternative; panic...demonstrate...riot? /QUOTE]

Try looking up the definitions of; Denial, Apathy, Lethargy, Complacency.

Blanket Denial

There are undeniable links between unfettered immigration and Islamic Fundamentalist terrorism.

Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorist murders and atrocities are being committed in every democratic country of the world with sickening regularity.

These terrorists do not arrive in those countries by gunboat or parachute - they are domiciled there, having been welcomed by those countries as IMMIGRANTS.

From the tragic Lee Rigby and Jihadi John here, to the atrocities in Paris, Australia, Amsterdam, and elsewhere, the perpetrators were IMMIGRANTS.

The ISLAMIC HATE PREACHERS spewing bile and inciting the faithful to rise up and kill kaffirs and infidels in the West, have done so, and do so, from mosques and Islamic 'Learning' Centres in the WEST - whilst domiciled in the West as IMMIGRANTS.

This has been OUTLINED repeatedly on here as well as elsewhere, but instead of heeding such warnings and resolving to join those of us who wish to see an end to 'Open Door' immigration policies because of this terrorism (among other economic based reasons) instead, there is 'BLANKET DENIAL' that such a link between immigration and terrorism even exists, and we are offensively labelled 'racist', 'xenophobic', or Anti-Muslim.

So,Nedusa is 1,000% correct in what she says.

Whether it is 'SLEEPWALKING' because of APATHY or LETHARGY or COMPLACENCY, or whether it is SLEEPWALKING because we CLOSE OUR EYES TO THE TRUTH DELIBERATELY THROUGH BLANKET DENIAL, this country is still nonetheless SLEEPWALKING.

Thanks Kirk for expanding on my earlier post.......some people on here I fear find argument for arguments sake (even when they don't actually have one).

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Visiting talkback thames HQ just off Oxford street today. Wish me luck

I'm sure you will be fine you are more likely to be tripped up by a tourist with a selfie stick.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I'm sure you will be fine you are more likely to be tripped up by a tourist with a selfie stick.

[Kizzy]

[QUOTE=Nedusa;7610970]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Thanks Kirk for expanding on my earlier post.......some people on here I fear find argument for arguments sake (even when they don't actually have one).

Some people have a different view is all, I have across threads given my opinion, having you and others mocking does nothing to change this.

[kirklancaster]

How am I mocking you? Because I post a 'Laugh' or 'Joker' emoticon when someone cracks a funny? You really need to relax Kizzy and to examine your own conduct. I can reproduce many posts from different threads when you have acted far worse against me than this which you are taking umbrage at now - including posting highly offensive pictures of the Virgin Mary and making other mocking comments about my Christianity just because I held opposite views to you and three or four others.

I am not mocking you nor denouncing your right to hold opposite views.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I've seen plenty checks done on the euro tunnel, they regularly pass a scanner over the steering wheel

Well I use it at least half a dozen times a year and that has never happened to me. It must be something to do with my nice smile

[Northern Monkey]

Feck these cowardly bitches.Gunning down unsuspecting non combatants in shopping centres who are not armed to defend themselves is a true act of cowardice.
Personally if i did'nt have a family i'm not in the least bit worried,If ****s gonna happen then its gonna happen.However i do worry for my family.Let's hope our security is up to scratch and these feckers are tracked,apprehended and shot before they even get to pull their AK's out.
Britain is apparently one of,if not the 'the' most secure countries in the world for CCTV,Let's hope it's put to good use.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

How am I mocking you? Because I post a 'Laugh' or 'Joker' emoticon when someone cracks a funny? You really need to relax Kizzy and to examine your own conduct. I can reproduce many posts from different threads when you have acted far worse against me than this which you are taking umbrage at now - including posting highly offensive pictures of the Virgin Mary and making other mocking comments about my Christianity just because I held opposite views to you and three or four others.

I am not mocking you nor denouncing your right to hold opposite views.

I quoted nedusa not you if you notice, Nobody has cracked any funnies terrorism isn't that funny.
I'm not derailing the thread discussing anything else, bump it if you feel something was offensive and I'll clarify.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

"I quoted nedusa not you if you notice,"

A) Yes, you did quote Nedusa, but since when on this forum are responses strictly confined to member who have been specifically quoted? Or is this another Kizzy Law of: "Do What I Say Not What I Do?" because haven't you constantly responded to my posts when I have quoted others and not you?

B) I answered your post because, although you quoted Nedusa, you also included me in your post when you stated: "having you and others mocking does nothing to change this". Because I am NOT Nedusa, I must qualify therefore, as one of the 'others'. As one of the 'others', I am being accused by you of 'mocking' you. Therefore, my already proper RIGHT TO REPLY' is further legitimised.

"Nobody has cracked any funnies terrorism isn't that funny."

C) I think that anyone familiar with this forum and our respective posts on threads relating to terrorism, will already be aware of just which one of us has most accorded terrorism with its due gravity. If anyone reading this is not so familiar, then they have only to browse the said threads, and they will readily witness that my comprehensive and very serious posts far outweigh yours, so I do not need a lesson in the gravity of terrorism - especially from you.

D) The above truth said, the gravest of subject matters being discussed never precludes levity as light relief. You yourself are a devotee of such a practice, and have joined in on jokes and banter during serious discussion on various threads which have a serious topic. Have you forgotten this? Or is this another Kizzy Law of: "Do What I Say Not What I Do?"

E) I would ask that you re-examine the posts on this thread, when you will see examples of humour in the posts. So, though you may not appreciate the joke, I assure you that 'funnies' have been well and truly 'cracked'.

"I'm not derailing the thread discussing anything else, bump it if you feel something was offensive and I'll clarify."

F) Once again, you make a false accusation in your post, then when that falsehood is quite legitimately countered with the TRUTH, you seek to resort to 'Damage Limitation' by uttering; "I'm not derailing the thread discussing anything else".

G) You are the very one who brought in the subject of 'Mockery' by claiming you are being mocked, yet now you refuse to discuss my rebuttal because it will "derail" the thread. If the subject of mockery can truly be said to be derailing the thread, then you have the most culpability being the one who introduced the subject in the first place.

Anyway, this response has been both legitimate and civil, and I hope now we can leave it here and agree to disagree.